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by EAB4
Sat Aug 03, 2019 7:53 pm
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Building the fuselage
Replies: 8
Views: 302

Re: Building the fuselage

Yes, they get gussets on both sides.
Definitely spend some time Chris Tracy's site- a lot of good photos for whatever step you are at in the construction.

http://www.westcoastpiet.com
by EAB4
Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:05 pm
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Building the fuselage
Replies: 8
Views: 302

Re: Building the fuselage

here is where mine is now- plenty strong enough to move around and lots of room to work inside
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by EAB4
Thu Aug 01, 2019 4:56 pm
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Building the fuselage
Replies: 8
Views: 302

Re: Building the fuselage

If I can, I try to position things so that any ooze will form its own fillet as it dries, but the only thing the ooze does is show that you have enough glue in the joint- so most of the time I wipe it off before it dries. Glue the plywood sides on towards the end of building the fuselage- it will be...
by EAB4
Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:58 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Photos of a completed Aircamper, uncovered
Replies: 8
Views: 251

Re: Photos of a completed Aircamper, uncovered

Thanks for the picts, Brian- But be wary of copying someone else's "modifications" or changes from the plans, especially if they are not flight-tested...
by EAB4
Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:11 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Photos of a completed Aircamper, uncovered
Replies: 8
Views: 251

Re: Photos of a completed Aircamper, uncovered

How about starting an album here:

https://myalbum.com

That way everyone could look through them
by EAB4
Sun Jul 28, 2019 1:41 pm
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Cheap Wheels
Replies: 6
Views: 631

Re: Cheap Wheels

adapting motorcycle hubs, or making your own are the most common sources
by EAB4
Thu Jul 25, 2019 2:22 pm
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Full size rib plans
Replies: 2
Views: 221

Re: Full size rib plans

Whoever said that is making a general statement- they CAN be inaccurate, but they are not ALL inaccurate. Mine was fine and I know other builders that have used the full-size plane successfully. The copying and printing of the file can cause inaccuracies but, as I said, they are not all off. The mai...
by EAB4
Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:26 pm
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Rib cuts
Replies: 7
Views: 266

Re: Rib cuts

I made all my parts first, then started gluing up in the jig.
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by EAB4
Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:45 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: New FlyCorvair Youtube Channel
Replies: 3
Views: 519

Re: New FlyCorvair Youtube Channel

The videos should also be on the Flycorvair website where you can interact.
https://flycorvair.net
by EAB4
Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:27 pm
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Tail Jig, am I doing the right?
Replies: 4
Views: 455

Re: Tail Jig, am I doing the right?

You are off to a good start, but honestly, I'd flip the MDF over and start over. You are going to be hard pressed to get 2 identical pieces out of the existing jig. And that's really the point of the jig, to make sure the parts are the same. You don't need to glue the blocks, screws are enough (I us...
by EAB4
Thu May 23, 2019 5:45 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: New FlyCorvair Youtube Channel
Replies: 3
Views: 519

Re: New FlyCorvair Youtube Channel

Thanks, Terry
There is a lot of great info in those videos!
by EAB4
Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:08 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Cheap Wheels
Replies: 6
Views: 631

Re: Cheap Wheels

Dan, My concern was not in how you are planning on making the wheels but the quality of parts you are using. Yes, you are going to use 4130 for the hub, but then you have the unknown Chinese steel in the rims and spokes. But, this is experimental aviation and we all have our own level of safety and ...
by EAB4
Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:55 pm
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Cheap Wheels
Replies: 6
Views: 631

Re: Cheap Wheels

Dan I second what Tom said, a lot of good info in those pages from people that have been there and have planes that work. (the only thing I would disagree with is straight-laced spokes. While they do look "original" they make a wheel that is weaker in side loads than a cross-laced wheel whether usin...
by EAB4
Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:50 pm
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: offset vertical fin
Replies: 10
Views: 1186

Re: offset vertical fin

Mine is offset to the right (Corvair engine)
It's not flying yet, but that distance was recommended to me by people who have many hours flying Corvair powered Pietenpols
If I find it's not right on my plane, I'll either add a trim tab or adjust the fittings.
by EAB4
Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:24 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: offset vertical fin
Replies: 10
Views: 1186

Re: offset vertical fin

E as Oscar said, the stacked washer method has been used on a number of planes. My VS is offset about 5/8"- I ran a rod through all the rudder hinges and rotated the VS around the hinges, then made my fittings to fit. that way there is no added stress on the main beam of the VS from twisting it to g...
by EAB4
Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:50 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Tail Wheel weight consideration?
Replies: 4
Views: 758

Re: Tail Wheel weight consideration?

I know people have used those tailwheels.
I’m using a Matco t6 which is slightly
Under 5lbs.
I think the Homebuilders Tailwheel from ACS weighs around 2 or 3 pounds.
Those are without the leaf springs though.
The plans built tailwheel assembly is probably
one of the lightest ways to go.
by EAB4
Wed Mar 06, 2019 5:23 pm
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Docspietshop
Replies: 3
Views: 761

Re: Docspietshop

Haven't heard anything about Doc for quite a while.
Here is the address to order the plans from the Pietenpol family

https://www.pietenpolaircraftcompany.com
by EAB4
Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:26 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Metal Fittings
Replies: 9
Views: 1214

Re: Metal Fittings

while having the metal fittings made can be a timesaver, the fact that these are all plans built, hand made airplanes means that these are not really carbon copies of each other and there is not really a "one size fits all" set of fittings for every plane. I got a nice set of CNC cut engine mount fi...
by EAB4
Sat Feb 02, 2019 5:29 pm
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Bending Strips for Ribs
Replies: 5
Views: 673

Re: Bending Strips for Ribs

A general guideline is 15 mins. per 1/4" thickness I did 4 or 5 at a time and I think I steamed them for 20 mins. My form was actually cut slightly tighter but just cutting to the shape of the rib would work fine. Here are a couple of pics of the form and the high tech steaming device. DSC_0001.jpg ...
by EAB4
Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:47 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Propeller carving video?
Replies: 1
Views: 448

Re: Propeller carving video?

here are some good books...
https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/ ... arving.php
http://www.actechbooks.com/products/act535/

I'm sure there are probably some videos on youtube
by EAB4
Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:34 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Number of plan sheets
Replies: 4
Views: 667

Re: Number of plan sheets

Who would be the best source to contact about getting the missing plan sheets.
Yep, that would be Andrew!
https://www.pietenpolaircraftcompany.com
715 293-2195
by EAB4
Fri Dec 28, 2018 8:22 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Number of plan sheets
Replies: 4
Views: 667

Re: Number of plan sheets

It would be easier to figure out if you gave us the drawing numbers of the pages you do have, as there are different plans packages available.
The 3/3/34 page could be #5 which is the 1 piece wing and rib plan.
by EAB4
Mon Dec 24, 2018 8:39 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Fueslage Modifications For Diffrent Engines.
Replies: 13
Views: 1326

Re: Fueslage Modifications For Diffrent Engines.

The Verner is a lot lighter than the Rotec.
You will have to move the wing back for the W&B.
The only flying Piet I know of with the Verner has the cabane struts straight up and down and has 30 or 40 lbs of lead in the nose.
by EAB4
Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:29 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Bracing for the flying strut
Replies: 4
Views: 714

Re: Bracing for the flying strut

yes they are
by EAB4
Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:13 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Bracing for the flying strut
Replies: 4
Views: 714

Re: Bracing for the flying strut

tbopper
The early streamlined tubing used for the lift struts had internal ribs (drawing #6) to counter buckling or vibration, so jury struts were not used. (and so, not on the plans!)
Today's tubing does not have the internal ribs so jury struts are commonly added to the lift struts.
by EAB4
Thu Nov 22, 2018 3:11 pm
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Tail Feathers Confusion
Replies: 16
Views: 2975

Re: Tail Feathers Confusion

Aircraft Spruce sells 3/16 ply too
by EAB4
Thu Nov 22, 2018 3:09 pm
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Ribs: full length and aileron ribs
Replies: 23
Views: 2161

Re: Ribs: full length and aileron ribs

Brian, that's basically right but you only need to sheet 4 of the ribs-
the 2 outboard ribs of the center section and the butt ribs of each wing panel.
The sheeting keeps adds a place to attach the fabric on the butt ribs and
keeps the ribs from deforming from the tautening of the fabric.
by EAB4
Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:08 pm
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Glue and varnish
Replies: 20
Views: 1800

Re: Glue and varnish

I would kind of expect Titebond to say they have the best thing out there, and while they are good glues, I have had Titebond II and III fail in exterior projects. Ca glues will also make the wood fail before the glue joint, and they are faster and easier to use than Titebond but I'm not building my...
by EAB4
Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:33 pm
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Waterjetting
Replies: 13
Views: 1565

Re: Waterjetting

I have all the metal fittings/parts for my plane drawn out in the computer. When I need to make a part I print out a template and glue it to the metal and cut it out. For duplicate parts, I use industrial double-sided tape between the metal blanks and make multiple parts as I would single parts. I c...
by EAB4
Sat Oct 20, 2018 11:14 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: About those control horns...
Replies: 7
Views: 1030

Re: About those control horns...

While they do take a bit more effort and time to make than just one flat piece of metal, they are not hard to make and they do actually wind up being lighter and stronger.
There are a couple of good examples of how to make them on the West Coast Piet site.
by EAB4
Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:14 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Ribs: full length and aileron ribs
Replies: 23
Views: 2161

Re: Ribs: full length and aileron ribs

Hi Brian The extra truss and gussets on the rib plan are actually for the 6 end ribs. (2 on each end of the wing panels and 2 on the ends of the center section if you are building a 3 piece wing) I made all of the regular ribs first, then modified the jig to make the end ribs. Then, as Oscar said, w...
by EAB4
Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:17 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Beg,Borrow or Steal or even purchase a good Rib Jig?
Replies: 15
Views: 1928

Re: Beg,Borrow or Steal or even purchase a good Rib Jig?

I think I spent maybe $10 on my jig, probably the cheapest part of the whole project!
There is already a blueprint available, The full size rib print. You build the jig right over the print
by EAB4
Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:54 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Pietenpol vertical wing strut support.
Replies: 12
Views: 2162

Re: Pietenpol vertical wing strut support.

yes, they should be used with wooden struts as well
by EAB4
Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:57 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Landing Gear Location
Replies: 6
Views: 1042

Re: Landing Gear Location

I think this has all the articles-
by EAB4
Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:51 pm
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Landing Gear Location
Replies: 6
Views: 1042

Re: Landing Gear Location

Hi Allen

the actual ash members stay in the per plans location. It is the axle of the landing gear that's moving forward.
As Oscar said, the weight and balance articles are a must read before fabricating the landing gear.

Earl
by EAB4
Wed Aug 01, 2018 6:44 pm
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Pietenpol Plans and Kits
Replies: 3
Views: 939

Re: Pietenpol Plans and Kits

this is a good place to get started-
THE place to order plans and lots of info on the site
https://www.pietenpolaircraftcompany.co ... craft-kits

Aircraft Spruce sells component kits
by EAB4
Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:46 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: introduction
Replies: 2
Views: 556

Re: introduction

Hi Michael

I'm in Downingtown PA.
I'd be happy to help you out or answer any questions.

PM me here or email me at eab4@mac.com

Earl Brown
by EAB4
Mon Jul 02, 2018 3:43 pm
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Laced Wheels
Replies: 6
Views: 1120

Re: Laced Wheels

Dave the spoke holes depend on the size (gauge) spoke you want to use. 8 or 9 gauge seem to be typical sizes, the holes will need to be slightly larger to accommodate the elbow of the spoke, and will also need to be countersunk for the spoke head. There are actually a bunch of measurements from the ...
by EAB4
Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:02 pm
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Long Steel Fuselage
Replies: 5
Views: 1449

Re: Long Steel Fuselage

The cabane fitting locations on the fuselage and the wing do not change.
The fittings are designed to allow the wing to move fore and aft to get the CG in the right position.
by EAB4
Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:15 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Wing Finishing Advice
Replies: 10
Views: 1440

Re: Wing Finishing Advice

Why would you not use the 1/16th ply the plans call for?
by EAB4
Fri May 25, 2018 1:01 pm
Forum: Photo Section
Topic: Arcraft spruce cap strip options
Replies: 2
Views: 902

Re: Arcraft spruce cap strip options

its further up on the list- Screen Shot 2018-05-25 at 1.49.59 PM.png i don't remember how much cap strip i ordered, but aircraft spruce has it listed as 100 64" pieces oh, make sure you post your questions in the "Pietenpol Builders Forum" section you may get an answer faster- I'm not sure how often...
by EAB4
Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:33 pm
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Mikuni carburator
Replies: 2
Views: 583

Re: Mikuni carburator

I second Stuart's thoughts- following a proven path will save you from a lot of headaches and wasted time, and probably be safer. Slide carbs are not immune to icing. They are less prone to icing, but can still ice up. I don’t think using a Mikuni carb and trusting it to never ice up would be good r...
by EAB4
Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:00 pm
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Fuselage Cross Members
Replies: 1
Views: 557

Re: Fuselage Cross Members

Are you talking about the ash cross members for the landing gear? The lower drawing of the long fuselage shows the position of the landing gear/wing fittings. Compare their location to the upper drawing and you can see where the ash cross members need to go. Front one should be centered at the first...
by EAB4
Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:41 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Pietenpol in NJ?
Replies: 2
Views: 672

Re: Pietenpol in NJ?

Hi Brian
I’m still working on mine, but you are welcome to come out if you want to.

I’m near West Chester PA

Earl
by EAB4
Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:35 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: CNC Pietenpol Ribs & More
Replies: 9
Views: 1720

Re: CNC Pietenpol Ribs & More

As Tom said-It's your project and you can do whatever you want with it, but maybe getting and studying the plans would be a good place to start before wanting to make changes to things. While you certainly could CNC the ribs- for the amount of time you are going to spend digitizing, laying out and g...
by EAB4
Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:28 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Pietenpol vertical wing strut support.
Replies: 12
Views: 2162

Re: Pietenpol vertical wing strut support.

Hi Ed The jury struts serve a definite purpose and need to be on the plane. Excessive compression loads or harmonic oscillation can cause the lift struts to buckle. The lift strut material called for in the plans had internal stiffeners, so the early planes did not need the jury struts- today's tubi...
by EAB4
Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:24 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Herb Rose
Replies: 0
Views: 1301

Herb Rose

I spoke with Herb earlier this week. He wanted me to let you know the doctors confirmed his heart condition. Apparently, his aortic valve is leaking so badly they are surprised he is up walking around! He goes into the hospital the 15th for more tests and will then hear when he will have surgery. I'...
by EAB4
Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:30 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Engines
Replies: 5
Views: 1532

Re: Engines

Hi Brian,
lots of good info on this site

https://flycorvair.net/?s=fuel+injection

Earl