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by PietenAsia
Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:47 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Actual Empty Weight of Pietenpol
Replies: 27
Views: 13374

Re: Actual Empty Weight of Pietenpol

I see. That is interesting. I had not heard of aircamper with other airfoil. Curious, but I think like you said simpler to build ordinary wing.

Thank you for answer.
by PietenAsia
Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:42 pm
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Actual Empty Weight of Pietenpol
Replies: 27
Views: 13374

Re: Actual Empty Weight of Pietenpol

What is this Riblett airfoil you mentioned as opposed to Pietenpol airfoil please?
by PietenAsia
Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:33 pm
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Actual Empty Weight of Pietenpol
Replies: 27
Views: 13374

Re: Actual Empty Weight of Pietenpol

I also plan to tighten cables before crimping to eliminate many turnbuckles. Save money too!

And yes can make only controls for back then later if have weight left or after certification on scales can build front controls.

Thank you for input
by PietenAsia
Fri Nov 22, 2019 6:02 pm
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Actual Empty Weight of Pietenpol
Replies: 27
Views: 13374

Re: Actual Empty Weight of Pietenpol

Thank you all for input. I have made contact with William Wynne as you suggested. He is very helpful. I think consensus is that it will be difficult to achieve 550 pounds because the origianal Flying and Glider plans had weight that was maybe a bit optimistic and that A65 is closer to 190 pounds whe...
by PietenAsia
Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:29 pm
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Actual Empty Weight of Pietenpol
Replies: 27
Views: 13374

Re: Actual Empty Weight of Pietenpol

Thank you for the links.

I will see what he can add to my search for info.
by PietenAsia
Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:55 pm
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Actual Empty Weight of Pietenpol
Replies: 27
Views: 13374

Re: Actual Empty Weight of Pietenpol

That is encouraging! I don't have any idea how the steel fuselage compares to the wooden one. Any input? Also I don't know what landing gear is lighter, the "old wooden style" vs the style pictured. Input? Also I don't know what instruments/radio he is equipped with but probably more than ...
by PietenAsia
Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:56 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Actual Empty Weight of Pietenpol
Replies: 27
Views: 13374

Re: Actual Empty Weight of Pietenpol

Yes that's a good point that the rib is longer and thinner. I think I'll just build it per the drawings and skip all the "add ons" except for seatbelts. If I can find a long enough build area I'll build the one piece wing. Hopefully I will come close to the stated weight and then save abou...
by PietenAsia
Sat Nov 16, 2019 9:42 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Actual Empty Weight of Pietenpol
Replies: 27
Views: 13374

Re: Actual Empty Weight of Pietenpol

Todd I do think there is something to your line of thought. I found some very helpful information in William Wynne's Weight and Balance studies and articles where details of many aircraft were printed. While it seems 550 pounds is going to be difficult (maybe or maybe not impossible) to achieve ther...
by PietenAsia
Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:43 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Actual Empty Weight of Pietenpol
Replies: 27
Views: 13374

Re: Actual Empty Weight of Pietenpol

Thank you for the detailed information. I am getting the idea that the 625 pounds with water equipped with a Model A of 244 and radiator of 21 more is not a reality, though it is as described in the 1932 F and G manual. This seems strange, that it would be misrepresented, but it is appearing to be t...
by PietenAsia
Wed Nov 13, 2019 5:54 pm
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Actual Empty Weight of Pietenpol
Replies: 27
Views: 13374

Re: Actual Empty Weight of Pietenpol

Thanks for the input Oscar. If the F and G manual is correct that it can be built at 625 with the model A engine so long as you don't "add things" (OK I'd add seatbelts to what the plans show) and my original logic of saving weight by changing to the A-65 is correct I really should not hav...
by PietenAsia
Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:14 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Actual Empty Weight of Pietenpol
Replies: 27
Views: 13374

Re: Actual Empty Weight of Pietenpol

Yeah but it only has one seat and I want two. Also the weight class of a one seat ultralight here is much more restrictive leaving only mostly designs with two stroke engines as options. But that is a pretty plane. Thank you
by PietenAsia
Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:23 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Actual Empty Weight of Pietenpol
Replies: 27
Views: 13374

Actual Empty Weight of Pietenpol

Hello, Here in Thailand a two seat ultralight can weigh 550 pounds empty. I saw the plans for the Pietenpol Air Camper in the 1932 Flying and Glider Manual. It shows it to weigh 625 Lbs with water. If I subtract the engine of 244 and radiator of 21 it is 360 without engine. Add a Continental A-65 sh...