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Pietenpol-List: new builder Bill--welcome

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Original Posted By: Craig Aho
Subject: Pietenpol-List: new builder Bill--welcomeHi Bill,Welcome to the list. Good questions. Many have been answered but to add my thoughts, the Pietenpol has beenbuilt with a zillion variations in all areas but your friend is right---the Ford engine might not be enough power for yourkind of expectations. If you live in a hot area of the country and you want to carry passengers all summer long you'rebetter off with a Continental A-65 or more for power. If you're an expert Ford engine rebuilder like Ken Perkins andDan Helsper who get great power out of their Fords then you can fly with a Ford and carry passengers even on some warmer days.Adding a foot or three to your wing will certainly help you lift more weight and it has been done (as Douwe mentioned) byseveral builders with good results. If you compare a Cub and Champ to the Pietenpol, those other planes have about 6 morefeet of wing than the Piet so a little more wing won't hurt a Piet.I've flown both Ford and Continental Piets and to me, flying a Ford Piet feels like you're doing slow flight in a Continental Piet.The controls are less crisp, things happen more slowly in a Ford Piet and you get a nice dose of exhaust if you lean out theleft side because the exhaust pipes on a Ford are right in line with your nose. I love the nostalgia of a Ford and seeing othersfly them but for me I prefer more power. The Corvair is another alternative for more power but from what I have read, you'regoing to put almost as much money into a good Corvair rebuild as you might a Continental rebuild and the Corvair seems to haveit's share of mechanical issues as compared to the Continental with regard to long-term reliability but everyone's experiences vary.Keep it simple, make cosmetic changes if you like but the basic design as-shown on the plans will give you a good flying airplaneno matter what engine you choose if you keep it light. If you expect to have a full electrical system, starter, battery, alternator,and all the goodies then you'll want more power for sure like an 85, 90, 0-200 or Corvair.Here's a great Piet photo site that Chris Tracy has put together for all of us to enjoy. You'll be able to connect our names withthe planes we are building or have finished and are flying here.Mike C. in Ohiohttp://www.westcoastpiet.com/ ________________________________________________________________________________

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> Pietenpol-List: Elevator

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Original Posted By:> billspiet(at)sympatico.ca
I had a spring on my First Air Camper from the Bell Crank to somewhere on the structure behind the seat=2C cant remember and would have to look for a photo to know. I had read many years ago that Bernie did the same on his last ship just to keep the Elevators up inline with the Stab. It was a just for looks thing. Craig > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Elevator

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Re: Pietenpol-List: Elevator

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Original Posted By: John Core
I saw this ad in our local classified ads.... I have no affiliation with the ador the person selling. Just passing it along.http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218&ad=23912535&cat=151&lpid=3&search=&ad_cid=11BrianSLC-UTRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398809#398809 ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 12:40:06 -0400Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Elevator

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Original Posted By: marcus.zechini(at)gmail.com
I would like to see your trim system. I always enjoy seeing the enginuity of others. Craig Date: Wed=2C 17 Apr 2013 11:00:51 -0400Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Elevator

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Original Posted By: Marcus Zechini
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> ca>> > This question posed by Dave didn't belong in a thread regarding flying to Brodhead=2C so I created a new thread.> > In response to your question=2C Dave...> What??> > > > > > n11dmx(at)yahoo.com> > Guest> > > > Posted: Tue Apr 16=2C 2013 5:10 pm Post subject: Piets from Brodhead to Oshkosh? > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------> > > > Sorry=2C but its a different subject.. > > Just finished a mockup of my delevator system.. > > All the pics of Petes show the elevators in the nose down position. > > They are heavy=2C on balance fwd of hinge line. > > has anyone put a spring in the system to offset the > > heavy wood elevator > > as is you must have to hold aft stick for level flight ? > > Dave inverness=2C Fl > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398795#398795> > > > > > > ============================================> > > ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 11:00:51 -0400Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Elevator

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Pietenpol-List: Aircraft brakes for sale

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Original Posted By: "Pilot78"
> > To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> >> billspiet(at)sympatico.ca>> >> > This question posed by Dave didn't belong in a thread regarding flying> to Brodhead, so I created a new thread.> >> > In response to your question, Dave...> > What??> >> >> >> >> > > n11dmx(at)yahoo.com> > > Guest> > >> > > Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:10 pm Post subject: Piets from Brodhead to> Oshkosh?> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------> > >> > > Sorry, but its a different subject..> > > Just finished a mockup of my delevator system..> > > All the pics of Petes show the elevators in the nose down position.> > > They are heavy, on balance fwd of hinge line.> > > has anyone put a spring in the system to offset the> > > heavy wood elevator> > > as is you must have to hold aft stick for level flight ?> > > Dave inverness, Fl> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > Read this topic online here:> >> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398795#398795> >> >> >> >> >> >> > **>> >> >>> *>> *>> ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Aircraft brakes for sale

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>> > Pietenpol-List: Elevator

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Original Posted By: Craig Aho
>> > To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>> >>> billspiet(at)sympatico.ca>>> >>> > This question posed by Dave didn't belong in a thread regarding flying>> to Brodhead, so I created a new thread.>> >>> > In response to your question, Dave...>> > What??>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > > n11dmx(at)yahoo.com>> > > Guest>> > >>> > > Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:10 pm Post subject: Piets from Brodhead to>> Oshkosh?>> > >>> > >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------->> > >>> > > Sorry, but its a different subject..>> > > Just finished a mockup of my delevator system..>> > > All the pics of Petes show the elevators in the nose down position.>> > > They are heavy, on balance fwd of hinge line.>> > > has anyone put a spring in the system to offset the>> > > heavy wood elevator>> > > as is you must have to hold aft stick for level flight ?>> > > Dave inverness, Fl>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > Read this topic online here:>> >>> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398795#398795>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > **>>> >>> >>>>> *>>>> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List>> tp://forums.matronics.com>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution>> *>>>> *>> *>> ________________________________________________________________________________

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> Pietenpol-List: Elevator

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Original Posted By: gcardinal(at)comcast.net
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com=0A> ca>> > This question posed by Dave didn't belong in a thread regarding flying to Brodhead=2C so I created a new thread.=0A> > In response to your question=2C Dave...> What??> > > > > > n11dmx(at)yahoo.com> > Guest> > > > Posted: Tue Apr 16=2C 2013 5:10 pm Post subject: Piets from Brodhead to Oshkosh? =0A> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------> > > > Sorry=2C but its a different subject.. > > Just finished a mockup of my delevator system.. =0A> > All the pics of Petes show the elevators in the nose down position. > > They are heavy=2C on balance fwd of hinge line. > > has anyone put a spring in the system to offset the > > heavy wood elevator =0A> > as is you must have to hold aft stick for level flight ? > > Dave inverness=2C Fl > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398795#398795=0A> > > > > > > > > > =0A=0A=0A=0A" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List=0Atp://forums.matronics.com=0A_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A============0A============0A============0A============0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 16:58:19 +0000 (UTC)

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