Brodhead Pietenpol Association

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<t>Original Posted By: Steve Eldredge Ted,Your local Kmart must not carry this cold weather stuff we have in Pa. A ski hat is just a knit hat that is woven tight so the wind doesn't come through. Polar Fleece is good stuff too. We are down hill snow skiers so we are equiped to keep warm.Craig_...

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Original Posted By: "Craig R. Lawler"
Graham,We are in Pa and it is still a little cold. This winter has been extra warm though.Craig________________________________________________________________________________

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<t>Original Posted By: "Craig R. Lawler" >Ted,>>Yesterday I stopped for gas and spent 15min getting it going again. >The system that worked was, Flood it till it fires and kicks back. >Then turn the mags off and open the throttle, pull 3 blades. Then >start it with the throttle cracked.>>Craig...

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<t>Original Posted By: Ted Brousseau >Graham,>>I have my mag switchs on the right side on the Inst. panel for the >same reason. I still haven't started it without tying it to a post >or something. Maybe it's always best anyway. Got about an hour in >yesterday. I tried out a 1930's leather flyi...

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<t>Original Posted By: Ted Brousseau Hi Craig,I envy you guys being able to fly open cockpit stuff this time of year.You may have told me, but I can't remember where you live. You really sould try to get an impulse magneto; it will make your life a lot easier and safer...especially during hot ...

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<t>Original Posted By: grhans(at)freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Ted,Yesterday I stopped for gas and spent 15min getting it going again. The system that worked was, Flood it till it fires and kicks back. Then turn the mags off and open the throttle, pull 3 blades. Then start it with the throttle cracked...

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<t>Original Posted By: "Craig R. Lawler" Graham,I have my mag switchs on the right side on the Inst. panel for the same reason. I still haven't started it without tying it to a post or something. Maybe it's always best anyway. Got about an hour in yesterday. I tried out a 1930's leather flying...

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<t>Original Posted By: "Craig R. Lawler" >Graham,>>Kick backs haven't been a problem, but the C-65 is just hard to >start when it's hot. Craig,Here are a couple of ways I have learned to do a hot start.1) Open the throttle 1/2, pull through hard and retard the throttle as soonas it starts.or, ...

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<t>Original Posted By: Ted Brousseau >Craig,>>For added safety, I have incorporated a>pair of toggle type ignition switches on the right side just behind>the firewall where they are handy when swinging the propeller from the>rear. They are connected in parallel with the switches in the cockpit...

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Original Posted By:> > Ernest Hagness
Ian Holland wrote:> > Western Aircraft supply in Calgary supplies it. I also have two tubes,> unopened that I will let you have for a good price.> > ----------

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<t>Original Posted By:> John Kahn The package ran about $1700 US as I recall. It included all wood except plyand the white ash required. Capstrips were cut to dimension, as werelongerons and leadind/trailing edges. Only a light planing was required onthe larger members. i did not touch the cap...

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<t>Original Posted By: Steve Pugh Hi,> Could someone email me the phone number of Western Aircraft Supply? I > printed it, then deleted it, but there was a LAN malfunction and I never > got the printout.> > Thanks.Sure, it's (403) 275-3513.Ken___________________________________________________...

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Original Posted By: Ken Beanlands
Could someone email me the phone number of Western Aircraft Supply? I printed it, then deleted it, but there was a LAN malfunction and I never got the printout.Thanks.________________________________________________________________________________

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<t>Original Posted By:> > grhans(at)freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Hi,I have to agree here, Western Aircraft Supplies here in Calgary is a goodplace to look. Thier number is (403)275-3513. > I purchased thw spar and package from Western Spruce. No problems, and cut> to dimension. Saved me a lot of time...

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<t>Original Posted By: Ken Beanlands IanIf I may ask, how much was the spruce package you gotfrom Western? Was that all the longerons, cap stripsand spars cut to dimension? Also what was the shipping cost?There are local suppliers here in Ontario, but theavailability of lumber seems spotty.Tha...

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Original Posted By:> Ernest Hagness
Western Aircraft supply in Calgary supplies it. I also have two tubes,unopened that I will let you have for a good price.

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Original Posted By:> grhans(at)freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
I purchased thw spar and package from Western Spruce. No problems, and cutto dimension. Saved me a lot of time. On time delivery and flawless!

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Original Posted By:> Ken Beanlands
Ken, I got into a major testing lab in the US and they do not recommend it(unofficially). It would be nice if this info could get to the EAA, as theyare also cautious. I would have liked to use it, but....

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<t>Original Posted By:> dswagler(at)cobkf.ang.af.mil I did a serious study of Aerolite, Timbertix, T-88, resorcinol etc. Iactually did some tests on all of them, and ruled out resorcinol on highclamping pressure, mess, and lack of gap filling capability. T-88disqualified itself by an oven test ...

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<t>Original Posted By: Ian Holland Steve Pugh wrote:> > dswagler wrote:> Roger Mann, of Ragwing Aviation, highly recommends gorilla glue.> Swears by the stuff.> > I know that a lot of my furniture-making friends have great things to> say about it, for things like building workbenches. Seems pr...

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<r>Original Posted By: Ian Holland > > Since I'm thinking that I might actually start building pieces of> > this danged thing within the next decade, I'd be interested in> > hearing more about what kinds of glues y'all have used or are using,> > since that's one of the bajillion things I'll be...

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<t>Original Posted By: ehagness(at)mail.interconnect.net (Ernest Hagness) Hi John,Quite a few years back, I recall reading that someone used extrudedaluminum spars identical to those used on the Piper J-3... except forlength, of course. I believe he also used the USA 35 B airfoil thatwas used o...

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Original Posted By: grhans(at)freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
Has anybody ever designed a set of metal spars for the Piet/Gregafor those who may have trouble getting spar grade spruce planks?John Kahn________________________________________________________________________________

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Original Posted By: Steve Pugh
Roger Mann, of Ragwing Aviation, highly recommends gorilla glue. Swears by the stuff.________________________________________________________________________________

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<t>Original Posted By: dswagler(at)cobkf.ang.af.mil Hi,> Hi Greg,> Glad I'm not the only "crazy" one. I am using the aerolite glue because it> has had a tried and proven reputation. The hardest thing so far was to> decide on which glue to use!. I am taking precautions though, and am very> caref...

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Original Posted By: Ken Beanlands
Ian,Why did you pick aerolite over some of the other adhesives, such as T-88?________________________________________________________________________________

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<t>Original Posted By:> Greg Cardinal Hi Greg,Glad I'm not the only "crazy" one. I am using the aerolite glue because ithas had a tried and proven reputation. The hardest thing so far was todecide on which glue to use!. I am taking precautions though, and am verycareful to plan the gluing sequ...

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<t>Original Posted By: Ian Holland If anyone on this list is archiving the messages for there own use, could they kindly send me a copy? I would appreciate it very much. I posted recently asking if they are archived, but received no response, so I assume the answer is no.Thanks.DaveBTW, my mai...

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<t>Original Posted By: jkahn(at)picasso.dehavilland.ca (John Kahn) dswagler wrote:Roger Mann, of Ragwing Aviation, highly recommends gorilla glue. Swears by the stuff.I know that a lot of my furniture-making friends have great things to say about it, for things like building workbenches. Seems ...

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<t>Original Posted By: dswagler(at)cobkf.ang.af.mil I went to my local GM dealer to inquire about the cap screws>used to attach the Prop hub to the Corvair engine, and was told that the>part # is no longer valid. Would you happen to know what the new part number>is, or where I might obtain suit...

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Original Posted By: Dick Dery
Are there archives of this list somewhere? I would love to have them.Dave________________________________________________________________________________

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<t>Original Posted By: dswagler(at)cobkf.ang.af.mil Hey Steve, thanks for putting me back on the list. I was going through withdrawalsfor the last couple of months without it.Just a quick project update, I have the metal control horns formed but notwelded yet. Ribs going together, 20 complete 8...

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<t>Original Posted By: Greg Cardinal Hi Craig,At least you are doing SOME flying. This has been a long, miserable winterin these parts and I have not flown my Piet since last October. Have myWag-A-Bond (homebuilt version of the Piper Vagabond) on skis but haveflown it very little. Some winters...

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<t>Original Posted By: grhans(at)freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Gerard L. Huber wrote: Steve Eldredge wrote: > I don't understand what you mean by no leading edge. It would be an > aweful problem if you didn't have a le on a wing. Do you mean there is > no sheeting? Do you have a 1" spar or a 3/4" spar...

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Original Posted By: Steve Eldredge
Ernie,I think it's all the same.Craig________________________________________________________________________________

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<t>Original Posted By: "Craig R. Lawler" Graham,Kick backs haven't been a problem, but the C-65 is just hard to start when it's hot. What kind os impulse mags are you using? I got 1/2 hour of flying time in yesterday. I wasn't dressed as warm as I should have been.Craig________________________...

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<t>Original Posted By: "Craig R. Lawler" Stevee,Do you have bendix mags? The points are expensive. About $70 a set. They seem to work fine though. Everything needs to be just right to get it to start. I guess these engines all have a different personality. The manual with the C-65 I bought is ...

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<t>Original Posted By: "Craig R. Lawler" Steve Eldredge wrote:> I don't understand what you mean by no leading edge. It would be an> aweful problem if you didn't have a le on a wing. Do you mean there is> no sheeting? Do you have a 1" spar or a 3/4" spar? As far as tearing> apart the wing, it ...

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<t>Original Posted By: "Gerard L. Huber" John Kahn wrote: Steevee What's the biggest displacement for those engines anyway? Figuring on 1/2 hp per cube when turning at 2700 rpm, an engine (bored out if necessary) at 2.2 litres, having a truck cam (torque peak probably around 3000rpm) should be...

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<t>Original Posted By: Steve Eldredge SteeveeWhat's the biggest displacement for those engines anyway?Figuring on 1/2 hp per cube when turning at 2700 rpm,an engine (bored out if necessary) at 2.2 litres, having atruck cam (torque peak probably around 3000rpm) should be able to make 2.2x61=134...

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<t>Original Posted By: jkahn(at)picasso.dehavilland.ca (John Kahn) John Kahn wrote: I've had this idea for a while of building a Piet with an inline 4 that would be newer than a model A. The engine I had in mind is the NAPS-Z engine used in Nissan light trucks in the mid 80s. It's about 2 litre...

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<r>Original Posted By: Steve Eldredge Ernest Hagness wrote: Craig R. Lawler wrote: > > Ernie, > > I used RC Monocoat for my gap seals. Any hobby shop should have a=n > assortment of colors. It's tougher than the recomened scotch tap > works great. I even found a color that matched. Used fabric...

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<t>Original Posted By: Steve Eldredge I've had this idea for a while of building a Piet with an inline4 that would be newer than a model A. The engine I had in mindis the NAPS-Z engine used in Nissan light trucks in the mid 80s.It's about 2 litres with a thin iron/alloy block, aluminum heads,f...

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Original Posted By: jkahn(at)picasso.dehavilland.ca (John Kahn)
Please take me off of the Piet email list. Thanks shall(at)mail.vt.edu________________________________________________________________________________

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<t>Original Posted By: shall(at)mail.vt.edu (F.Spencer Hall) Steve Eldredge wrote:> > Anyone out there?> > SteveeYes, been real quiet lately. Hasn't it?I have an extended fuselage coming along nicely. My shop has been too cold to do much gluing this winter. With the current easing of the cold w...

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<t>Original Posted By: Richard Winkel Craig R. Lawler wrote:> > Ernie,> > I used RC Monocoat for my gap seals. Any hobby shop should have an> assortment of colors. It's tougher than the recomened scotch tap> works great. I even found a color that matched. Used fabric cement> and just glued the...

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<t>Original Posted By: ehagness(at)mail.interconnect.net (Ernest Hagness) Craig,I have used impulse coupled mags for many years because they eliminatethe problem of kickback, particularly when doing a hot start. With a direct drive magneto, you have a 30 degree spark advance whch will al-most g...

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<t>Original Posted By: grhans(at)freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Craig R. Lawler wrote: Are any of you using impulse mags? I just have the old bendix's and starting is OK, but. Craig I am about to dig into my A-65 and your comment has made me wonderabout starting. This engine is about 55 years old and h...

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<t>Original Posted By: "Craig R. Lawler" Ted,You are close to the truth when you were "wondering if the rest of theworld had frozen in". I cannot detect any sign of global warming yet,and am beginning to wonder about the validity of the concept. February,however, wasn't too bad and I managed t...

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<t>Original Posted By: grhans(at)freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Craig,No, I don't have any photos of the skis I have been using in recenttimes. Used Federal A1500 skis years ago with good results. Then a pair of home made skis, patterned after water skis, also worked very well in spite of being a bit h...

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