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by Terry Hand
Sat Jul 10, 2021 4:41 pm
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: fuel
Replies: 4
Views: 358

Re: fuel

A cheap lesson compared to what might have happened. We all learn from these postings. Thanks for sharing.
by Terry Hand
Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:56 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: fuel
Replies: 4
Views: 358

Re: fuel

I have done a little internet "dumpster diving" and what comes up is that 100LL is extremely sensitive to UV rays. That is why most gas cans are colored. Apparently 100LL does not play well with clear or white containers. Were the cans out in the sun? Were these cans designated as usable w...
by Terry Hand
Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:40 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Flight controls travel
Replies: 7
Views: 373

Re: Flight controls travel

John,

I knew that I had drawn this out in the past. Does this help? I have the full size of this in pdf if you want to see it.
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by Terry Hand
Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:33 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Flight controls travel
Replies: 7
Views: 373

Re: Flight controls travel

One other thought. Since it is a direct line from rudder bar end to rudder horn, you could do this - You could measure a straight piece of line attached to the rudder horn. Measure from a fixed position (anywhere along that line is acceptable - even a small rod or stick clamped to a fixed position a...
by Terry Hand
Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:25 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Flight controls travel
Replies: 7
Views: 373

Re: Flight controls travel

I am not using a rudder bar on my steel tube fuselage and tail, but I understand your concerns. I had the same question as I was positioning my rudder pedals. I clamped them in place and connected them by string/line to the rudder. I then checked to see if my position allowed movement of the rudder ...
by Terry Hand
Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:39 pm
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Heel Brakes
Replies: 7
Views: 415

Re: Heel Brakes

Oscar,

At your leisure. Have fun with family.

(I figured you would have a picture or two.) ;)
by Terry Hand
Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:38 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Heel Brakes
Replies: 7
Views: 415

Heel Brakes

And Now For Something Completely Different - After a too long hiatus on my Pietenpol project, I am back at it. I need some constructive ideas. I have made the decision to go with manual drum brakes. I did not want super strong hydraulic brakes that would either flip me over if I stomped too hard or ...
by Terry Hand
Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:25 pm
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: ELSA (E- L-SA) Registration
Replies: 14
Views: 579

Re: ELSA (E- L-SA) Registration

Piper, One other thing to ask your DAR - if I am the second owner of an experimental amateur built aircraft, who can do my Condition Inspection? The answer is - either the builder who has received the repairman’s certificate or an A&P. NOT an A&P/IA like a certified aircraft. Your DAR needs ...
by Terry Hand
Sun Jun 13, 2021 7:50 pm
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: ELSA (E- L-SA) Registration
Replies: 14
Views: 579

Re: ELSA (E- L-SA) Registration

Piper, The Pietenpol has been around since 1929, and Bernard Pietenpol should really be considered the patron saint of homebuilders. So, I am a bit in shock the your DAR is unaware of its history and the fact that it is a plans built airplane. Currently there is not kit or factory for this airplane....
by Terry Hand
Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:40 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: ELSA (E- L-SA) Registration
Replies: 14
Views: 579

Re: ELSA (E- L-SA) Registration

Piper, Maybe your question should be, "Has anyone ever registered a Pietenpol Air Camper as anything but an experimental amateur built?" You keep coming back around to the idea of registering a Pietenpol as an E-LSA? I am just curious as to why you are interested in doing so. What do you p...
by Terry Hand
Sun Jun 13, 2021 7:27 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: ELSA (E- L-SA) Registration
Replies: 14
Views: 579

Re: ELSA (E- L-SA) Registration

Piper, Maybe it's my advancing age, but you have lost me in what you asking. I think that your original question was, "can the Pietenpol Air Camper be built and registered as E-LSA?" I thought that Clay had done a good job of explaining how aircraft move from S-LSA to E-LSA. Yet you want p...
by Terry Hand
Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:45 pm
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Wing cradle (two place)
Replies: 3
Views: 277

Re: Wing cradle (two place)

From the Bingelis book -
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by Terry Hand
Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:39 pm
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Opinions sought: on 103 build (SS or AC)
Replies: 9
Views: 509

Re: Opinions sought: on 103 build (SS or AC)

You seem like you have your mind made up. So all I can say is, “Good luck”.
by Terry Hand
Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:14 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Opinions sought: on 103 build (SS or AC)
Replies: 9
Views: 509

Re: Opinions sought: on 103 build (SS or AC)

If you are making all of those changes, you are not really building a Pietenpol Air Camper. You are building your own aircraft version, based on the Air Camper/Sky Scout designs. No judgment here. Just an observation. If that is the case, why don't you save yourself a lot of work, and just do this -...
by Terry Hand
Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:46 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Cabanes
Replies: 4
Views: 1641

Re: Cabanes

A flop would help. Do you plan on installing one?
by Terry Hand
Fri May 08, 2020 11:44 pm
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: fuselage length
Replies: 7
Views: 2834

Re: fuselage length

I would submit to you that your best option is to contact William Wynne or Ryan Mueller, let them look at your numbers and let them propose your best solution. They know the Pietenpol W&B as well as anyone.
by Terry Hand
Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:30 am
Forum: Classified Ads
Topic: Wanted - Landing Gear
Replies: 4
Views: 2084

Re: Wanted - Landing Gear

If you can wait a little while, I am aware of a manual that will be coming out in the very near future which will contain cad drawings of the gear you are asking about. I will post more on that soon. How many welders have you asked that turned you down? Have you looked on Craigslist for welders? Whe...
by Terry Hand
Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:11 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Wooden repair
Replies: 4
Views: 1899

Re: Wooden repair

Have you considered using the 2-part epoxy varnish from Polyfiber?

https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/ ... kkey=21475
by Terry Hand
Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:10 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Photo update from my airplane factory
Replies: 7
Views: 3032

Re: Photo update from my airplane factory

Way cleaner than my shop!

Cleanliness isn’t next to Godliness. “Goggles” is. I looked it up. -- Gallagher
by Terry Hand
Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:56 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: 4130 vs 1020
Replies: 10
Views: 4978

Re: 4130 vs 1020

ArthurD, I am curious as to why 4130 was created then and used in aviation if there was little difference between it and 1020. Not trying to smart or argumentative - I am really curious.
by Terry Hand
Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:12 pm
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Open Cockpit for those with Glasses
Replies: 5
Views: 2363

Re: Open Cockpit for those with Glasses

These are not the most period looking of the goggle choices, but I think your glasses should fit pretty well under these tanker goggles.

https://ebay.us/NzwHMs
by Terry Hand
Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:47 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Contact Info for Scott Liefeld
Replies: 0
Views: 2632

Contact Info for Scott Liefeld

I tried to email Scott tonight but it appears he has retired so his old email address appears to be just that - old. Does anyone have current contact info for Scott?

Thanks in advance.
by Terry Hand
Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:24 pm
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Phosphoric acid
Replies: 1
Views: 1285

Re: Phosphoric acid

Have you looked at self-etching primers?
by Terry Hand
Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:58 am
Forum: Classified Ads
Topic: WTB Corvair core
Replies: 4
Views: 2577

Re: WTB Corvair core

Luke,

I would post an ad in your local Craigslist as well as the Craigslist areas that you are willing to drive to and place a "Want To Buy" add. DO NOT say it is for an airplane or the price will be jacked up. Just tell them it is for a project. You will get a bite eventually.
by Terry Hand
Wed Sep 04, 2019 9:12 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Any Piet Owners/Builders in SC
Replies: 4
Views: 2217

Re: Any Piet Owners/Builders in SC

Don Harper is in Barnwell, SC. Keith Goff is in (I believe) Aiken. I am sure either one would be happy to meet with you. PM me if you need their contact information.
by Terry Hand
Fri Aug 16, 2019 4:01 pm
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Bass wood vs sitka or Doug Fir
Replies: 8
Views: 4230

Re: Bass wood vs sitka or Doug Fir

"The Air Camper airframe is said to be hell-for-stout, but it's up to you to judge just how near to hell you care to build your airframe to test the validity of that saying ;o)" Well put, Oscar (as you typically do so well). Have you considered where you might be able to use the Basswood i...
by Terry Hand
Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:16 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Fuselage gussets
Replies: 6
Views: 3362

Re: Fuselage gussets

I, fortunately, live about 1+15 away from ACS East, so I bought mine there and saved shipping. That is the only place I saw Mahogany gusset material, but others may have a better answer.
by Terry Hand
Fri Jul 26, 2019 5:49 pm
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Full size rib plans
Replies: 2
Views: 2002

Re: Full size rib plans

Earl is right about the plans, but let me make a suggestion in general terms as it sounds like you are just starting your project. Assume that there are errors in everything (there aren't). But what it forces you to do is to verify everything, and by doing so you learn the plans better as well as th...
by Terry Hand
Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:10 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Rib cuts
Replies: 7
Views: 3444

Re: Rib cuts

This does not really answer your question, but since no one has yet answered, I thought that I would put my $.02 worth in. I am quoting below from Tony Bingelis, the late author of numerous books on aircraft construction. "There are two schools of thought about fitting the diagonals. One believ...
by Terry Hand
Sun Jul 07, 2019 1:03 am
Forum: Classified Ads
Topic: New Weight & Balance Manual To Be Available At Brodhead
Replies: 4
Views: 3754

New Weight & Balance Manual To Be Available At Brodhead

I want to pass along some very important information. I am quoting from a notice that is in this month's BPA Newsletter, with the Associations permission. I am posting it here, in case you have not yet received your newsletter, and maybe have not downloaded the online newsletter. It may be redundant...
by Terry Hand
Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:13 pm
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Adjustable seat
Replies: 3
Views: 3291

Re: Adjustable seat

Gary, Do you plan on letting people fly your airplane a fair amount so that is why you need adjustability? If it is for you because of leg length you may be better of making a seat that fits you. The airplane is already tail heavy so adding a mechanism may add weight where you don’t want or need it....
by Terry Hand
Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:29 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: New here, with question
Replies: 10
Views: 5584

Re: New here, with question

Clay, You made the following statement earlier - “As a subsequent owner of an Experimental Amateur Built Aircraft you will not be able to perform owner maintenance without an A&P license.“ That is an incorrect statement. Subsequent owners of EAB aircraft are allowed to do any and all maintenance...
by Terry Hand
Sat Jun 08, 2019 4:29 pm
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Plywood sides
Replies: 4
Views: 2671

Re: Plywood sides

Lorenzo,

You read smarter than I do. Your answer makes better sense than my question.
by Terry Hand
Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:43 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Plywood sides
Replies: 4
Views: 2671

Re: Plywood sides

Are you asking if it is okay to build without having plywood sides at all? Or are you asking if a thinner plywood can be used. Please clarify your question.

Thanks.
by Terry Hand
Sun May 12, 2019 7:30 pm
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Control Surface Rigging
Replies: 2
Views: 2218

Re: Control Surface Rigging

Here is a link to some reference material that may be helpful -

http://www.lightaircraftassociation.co. ... CAMPER.pdf
by Terry Hand
Thu May 02, 2019 9:37 pm
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: New FlyCorvair Youtube Channel
Replies: 3
Views: 2660

New FlyCorvair Youtube Channel

For those of you who may be interested in flying in your Pietenpol behind a Corvair engine, or may just be curious, there is a new tool to help you. William Wynne has created a FlyCorvair Youtube channel with tons of information already on it with much more to follow. Click on the link below for a m...
by Terry Hand
Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:02 pm
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Instrument Panel
Replies: 11
Views: 5376

Re: Instrument Panel

Ron, Wiley Post was not the only pilot that did that. When I flew in the Marine Corps we had all the engine instruments rotated so that "normal" was all in the same place/clock position and each gauge was marked with a dash of red torque seal at that spot. we would scan all the gauges at o...
by Terry Hand
Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:41 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Vi Kapler style hinges
Replies: 14
Views: 6467

Re: Vi Kapler style hinges

Mike,

In case Oscar does not log in for a few days, here is his website -

http://www.flysquirrel.net/rogueairparts.html
by Terry Hand
Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:16 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Builders in Oklahoma?
Replies: 3
Views: 2332

Re: Builders in Oklahoma?

Mark Chouinard lives in Owasso. Try contacting him through the email below -

hangar10(at)cox.net
by Terry Hand
Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:01 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Fueslage Modifications For Diffrent Engines.
Replies: 15
Views: 7347

Re: Fueslage Modifications For Diffrent Engines.

Since no one else has answered, I will try and give you some information. I am still building so I am not a flyer - yet. What is the weight of your proposed engine? That is your biggest issue, making sure that it weighs a reasonable amount. Second, you will have to fabricate your own engine mount an...
by Terry Hand
Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:20 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Ribs: full length and aileron ribs
Replies: 23
Views: 8347

Re: Ribs: full length and aileron ribs

I am not yet flying, but that is essentially what I did. I sacrificed the aft end of two extra ribs I had made, and made what you call a "shorty rib." Seems to have worked.
by Terry Hand
Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:41 am
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Nut Plates in The Empennage
Replies: 4
Views: 3222

Re: Nut Plates in The Empennage

Here is a link to a discussion on the Matronics forum of a similar topic. People posted their solutions - http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=90607&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=loctite This forum is becoming better and better each day, and a lot of it is because...
by Terry Hand
Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:35 pm
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Glue and varnish
Replies: 20
Views: 7720

Re: Glue and varnish

Brian, I spoke to the tech guy at Poly Fiber a few weeks ago about this same subject of varnishes to use. He said that there is definitely an issue, as Clay said, with Polyfiber products reacting with products like spar varnish. He did say, though that if you have already used spar varnish (like me)...
by Terry Hand
Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:44 pm
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: Waterjetting
Replies: 13
Views: 6140

Re: Waterjetting

Oscar, I was going to send this in to Pat Weeden for a future Newsletter but this has come up on this forum, so I will post it here AND send it to Pat. This is simply a repeat of a post I wrote on the Pietvair Forum not long ago. I try and exercise my "dual citizenship" on both this and th...
by Terry Hand
Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:01 pm
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: How smooth is smooth
Replies: 2
Views: 2910

Re: How smooth is smooth

One More Thing - A good place to go to get questions answered is the FAA Advisory Circular, AC43.13-1B, ACCEPTABLE METHODS, TECHNIQUES, AND PRACTICES - AIRCRAFT INSPECTION AND REPAIR. I have attached a link to the FAA online copy that you can download for reference in the shop - https://www.faa.gov/...
by Terry Hand
Wed Sep 26, 2018 7:35 pm
Forum: Pietenpol Builders Forum
Topic: How smooth is smooth
Replies: 2
Views: 2910

Re: How smooth is smooth

From Sportplane Construction Techniques by Tony Bingelis, Pages 50-51 - "One chore remaining is to finish your fittings to a uniform external shape, making sure that all of their edges are smooth and free of saw and file marks. Surface nicks, scratches and gouges, If present, should be dressed ...