Brodhead Pietenpol Association

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Varmint,

Please reply and drag the article into new reply so we can all enjoy it!

Thanks,

TK

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Gents,

Ten or so years ago, I came across the attached by one D. Michael Shuck. Don't know where to locate the elusive Dr., but his paper is background for a lively discussion regarding the FC-10 airfoil.

Enjoy; be sure to make yourself comfortable prior to reading!

TK

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After my reply, it occurred to me that like others have done, these were the Ace Hdwre version of hardware while your next package with proper A/C hardware arrived...

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Doug, Prior to completion, you'll be swapping the bolts that don't protrude from their nuts for some longer lengths, right?

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That’s why we have EAA chapters!

My chapter has certified scales, mill/drill, brake, a Tig welder, and more.

I just took a look at Amazon, half a dozen for less than $200.

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Consider that there are some 17 cables, maybe more depending on your landing gear, etc., and each of those cables will need end fittings. The old tried and true, but kinda ugly method is using a thimble and Nicopress sleeves to fashion an eye. Then figure out how to attach the eye to the bracket on ...

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Dan,

Beautiful work, and beautiful work,a ship!

What is the angled blue steel strap at the rear end of the plywood on the S’board side of the fuselage?

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Your sources ar probably giving you good info, as the 565 is for a lower ambient temp. For FWF, the 567 is recommended. If I had to grab only 1 tube, I'd make it the 567, as it can be used it without question in both environments. I also keep a tube at the house, for plumbing fixtures, etc. LOL We a...

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Several years ago we had a speaker from Loctite deliver a lunch and learn at our EAA chapter. (If any of you other guys in EAA chapters would like to do the same thing, Loctite reps always seem to be willing - and have a small budget - to put on a nice program like that.) During the program we speci...

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In a series of emails with Oscar sometime ago together we determined that indeed the stick is stopped by your knees prior to touching the stops. In other words, the design does not permit for full aileron travel unless you’re not sitting in the aircraft! If Anyone reading this has a different bellcr...

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Without looking at the plans which are out of my shop, I would have to say that the reason for this is because the forward part of the fuselage is sheathed with 1/8 inch plywood from firewall to the rear pit. Along with the sheathing, wedges provide additional joint strength needed in this area due ...

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FWIW — The use of a restrictor will not reduce the braking force, but it will slow down the rate at which the force is applied.

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Just listed an ad for an A-65 if you're looking.

Click on BPA, then go to Classifieds.

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<<<< REVISED 11/22/20 4pm Central >>>> I've got a Continental A-65 with 700 hours on it, ready to sell. This is a running Engine removed from a T''craft for an engine upgrade. Nicely equipped with a clean Stromberg Carb, and very LOW time Slick Mags, around 200 hrs. since installed. You won't find a...

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Andy, Does anyone in your chapter have a set of plans? On page 7 of mine, the wires from the Vertical Stab to the Horizontal have a common point at the Vertical, one going towards the leading edge, one going to the hinge edge of the Horizontal. Your plane, in contrast, has two unique wires, one towa...

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Oscar,

Have you thought of replacing the L shaped bracket that mounts the pedal with a U shaped bracket? There appears to be an eccentric load on the angled fuse member along with the bracket itself.

Tom

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Will, Lets do some simple math... In the case of a simple joint - perfectly fitted, the bond area of the two pieces would be the area of the end of a truss piece as it fits against the cap strip. For the Piet, both capstrip and truss piece are .25 x .50 inches, giving us a bond area of .125 sq. inch...

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Bob, Which cam does your C-90 have? The original cam was P/N 530788, and an engine equipped with it would have the best torque of any small Continental engine. Prior to assuming you need a 74x36, pitched prop, you might contact Douwe Blumberg, whose Piet Has a C-90 which climbs like a homesick angel...

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Bob, Which cam does your C-90 have? The original cam was P/N 530788, and an engine equipped with it would have the best torque of any small Continental engine. Prior to assuming you need a 74x36, pitched prop, you might contact Douwe Blumberg, whose Piet Has a C-90 which climbs like a homesick angel...

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At the cross bar, there’s a red adel clamp holding a cable attached to a mysterious gizmo.

Pray tell, what is the function of this device?

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The very first guys I met at Brodhead in '09 were from Minnesota's Chapter 25. I would like to count among them the late Dick Navratil - a superb gentleman - Bob Poore, and Greg Cardinal, and others, whose names are too many to recall. (We even have a couple of MN transplants here in TX) While we've...

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Take a close look at your tailwheel, as it adds the largest moment of any component due to arm length. Reducing weight at the tail is the best bet for changing cg. Below are a few suggestions. I had a 7 lb. Matco tailwheel given to me, and rather than using it, I am fabbing the twin tubing open fram...

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Now that AirVenture officially shut down for 2020, will there still be a small group flyin at Brodhead?

Please give all of us enough notice to adjust plans...

Thanks!

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Hopefully you have a plan to prevent the elevators from sliding back and forth, as the positioning of the hinges in the pic aren’t set up to eliminate lateral movement.

How about showing us a few more details?

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Some time ago, I purchased an O-200 engine "in a box." Literally, completely disassembled, cleaned - magnafluxed, zyglo'd - and neatly packed by the son of a deceased A&P who had saved the engine to build someday. The engine was carefully packed in a Gaylord container about 4' x 4' x 3...

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Have you considered the weight of the 1/8 cable & turnbuckles compared to 3/32? Since the tail of the Piet is notoriously heavy, any weight you can drop is rather large in the overall scheme of things. A few ounces here, a few ounces there, and all of a sudden you've dropped significant weight. ...

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Hey Guys - for those of you looking for a project engine - this one is it!~ C-85 in a box! Or maybe a few boxes... Aircraft Specialties has worked on C'shaft, reground it properly, and Divco has done their work on the C'case. Here's the link: https://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/avo/d/geneva-continent...

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As has been mentioned on the list fairly often, spending the weekend in Brodhead, WI, prior to AirVenture, aka Oshkosh, is a great way to learn about the plane, maybe hop a ride, get to meet guys flying in, and spend time learning about the type. The Brodhead Pietenpol / Hatz Flyin is held in July a...

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On page two of the 1933 plans, it appears that the numbers are rather fuzzy in appearance.

That said, I believe that both the stab brackets and the rudder brackets are 13 ga.

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Well... like the Weeden’s, my first flight of the year wasn’t in a Piet, rather it was in an RV12. It was not only my first flight of the year, it was my first flight towards both the commercial rating and the CFIS! Since it was here in Conroe, The weather was CAVU, Blue skies 70° Still need that Ta...

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OK - my LAST POST of the year! A couple of days ago, I was at the field grabbing some stuff for my Piet project, and came across the Cub shown in the pic. It turns out the Exhaust pipe was miter cut (cut on diagonal) backwards, which caused a pretty significant problem. Cub Exhaust.jpg When the open...

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Sean, While you are free to build your plane with anything you prefer, you may, at some future time, decide to sell that craft, and build some other plane. When you go to sell the plane, the pool of buyers may be limited if you’ve used non aircraft materials. Answering your specific question about t...

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Oscar, Like you, I purchased Bill Rewey's tips & hints package... unlike you, however, I didn't hide mine... I pulled the package out, and found what I think you're looking for, although it's not for a handheld, but for a GPS. In my package there was no COM radio or handheld radio mount; just th...

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Full-size sheets, 4’ x 8’ which were then cut down for me into 2’ x 8’ for shipping. I Purchased two 1/16 inch sheets one 1/8 sheet and one 5/16 inch sheet to the best of my recollection. They were actually in metric sizes but the measurements I gave are pretty close.

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While I have not looked this year, a few years back I noted that after air venture every year two things happen; #1, EAA puts the four volume set of Tony Bingelis’s books on sale, and #2, Boulter Lumber puts their Okume plywood on sale. Both places used to have Sale ads inside the August & Septe...

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This can be reduced to a pretty simple example… Take the case of two strips at right angles, so that they form a Tee. Sand all of the surfaces and prepare them perfectly and then glue them with the finest glue you can you can identify. Now imagine that the stresses on that joint are such that the le...

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This can be reduced to a pretty simple example… Take the case of two strips at right angles., so that they form a TEE. Send all of the surfaces and prepare them perfectly and then glue them with the finest glue you can you can identify. Now imagine that the stress is on that joint are such that the ...

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Due to crazy circumstances.... My 26 ft, Camper is available at Camp Scholler this year, which includes Camping Fees, Placement of Camper, Propane, COLD A/C, running water, power, etc. Available on Wed. the 17th. till Sunday the 28th. This is not a new Camper, but it's in great shape, has a new Full...

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Guys, Even if you remove the engine and junk it — which I’m not implying, the airframe alone could be worth the asking price! Figure around $2000. For wood, $1500 for covering, $800 for paint, and around $500 just for turnbuckles, and that's just the structure. Add instruments, gas tank, seats, stic...

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Dan, I'd like to suggest you read up on the wheel topic by reviewing this link: http://www.westcoastpiet.com/wire_wheels.htm There's quite a bit of discussion on the WCP site about wheels from several guys, including Mike Cuy, whose plane is top notch. While it's a nice thought to use the spokes tha...

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Fabrice, If you're coming all this way from France... I'd like to suggest you consider coming early enough to visit the Pietenpol Gathering in Brodhead, Wisconsin. Brodhead is just a couple easy hours drive from Oshkosh. The Piet gathering is the 4 days immediately prior to AirVenture in OSH, and th...

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Brian, The torch I use is an older Victor Journeyman, i.e. Victor 100, which has been cloned by lots of other companies, and torch tips are readily available. Recently, however, I did not have a sufficiently small tip to prevent blow thru of the material, which happens with very thin gage metals. So...

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Forgot to mention...solder needs to be rosin core to adhere to brass, but not to steel drill.

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Another item regarding metal work, is to draw file edges and then sand smooth with emery cloth to eliminate ALL defects on edges of piece, as these, too, will create create crack propagation points.

This type of prep must be done prior to bending.

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Oops, The first drill to try should be a #54, , then stepping up in size to make main jet richer. After cooling, twist the drill with pliers, and pull out; this will leave a smooth orifice.

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Guys, Oscar has outlined some very good info in his posts, and I'm adding just a few additional notes. As stated, the Stromberg carb is typically wired in the full rich position, and according to a few old timers, that’s because the Aircraft Sales guys never thought anyone would fly above 5000 ft, a...

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Ture Kane, Since we haven't seen any posts from you, it would be nice to have you follow up with some news about who you are, where you are, etc., so guy nearby your location can invite you to take a look at their Piets... After reading your post, and researching the Verner 5si, it appears that you ...

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Bill, et al, Sorry it has taken so long to put this together, as I've been on two trips and gone thru a total hip replacement since the last time I was able to post... In response to your comments regarding the bend radius shown on the prints I uploaded previously, please note that these were hastil...

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Arthur, You're right; waterjetting is one of the most expensive metal removal techniques known... which is why Ken Perkins took the Waterjet 101 class multiple times. The caveat with plasma, is that the edges, and some additional area ( splay) will have something called "plasma slag." Remo...

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A few years ago, I "captured" all of the Pietenpol sheet metal pieces, including simple pieces, and welded brackets using SolidWorks. After all of the Solid models were completed, I took them to a shop I've dealt with in the past, and they made a complete set of Piet metal pieces to prove ...

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