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<t>Original Posted By: "aabreu" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Gary Boothe & EAA Chapter win spot landing and flour bombing competition!What great photos and such a great report Gary of your flight to the Golden West fly-in! I=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2ll bet your grandson was bragging to all his friends...

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<t>Original Posted By: "giacummo" > To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> > > Lorenza=2C thanks for the thoughts. How did you handle the transition from the 1/4=A4=9D flooring to the 1/8=A4=9D gussets?> > --------> John Francis ___________________________________________________________________...

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<r>Original Posted By: "Greg Cardinal" > To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> > > I know that some of you have seen this on Facebook... but for those that don't frequent the site=2C here is a recent photo of my progress. Things have been a bit slow for a few months due to a variety of reasons=...

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<t>Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" etenpol-list(at)matronics.com>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: 3 Piece Wing QuestionGrant,My center section spars and L & R wing panel spar ends do not butt up against each other. I respect Jack Phillips mechanical load...

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<t>Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips" Those who are operating on wood gear legs.... Did you glue the spruce legs to the ash blocks or did you rely on the steel fittings and bolts to make the connection? Yes I know=2C small work space but it's warm=2C dry and ten steps from the kitchen! Scott ...

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<r>Original Posted By: "aerocarjake" etenpol-list(at)matronics.com>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: nice Piets for salewhat does the word might mean? is he looking for a piet or not? I keep reading reading might in this news letter. the word might means nothing. a couple of months ago another ...

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<r>Original Posted By: Michael Perez > To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> > > A theoretical question for any of you who might be able to help me understand the HST (sales tax). Let's say I buy an airplane from a guy in Ontario. He de-registers the Canadian-registered aircraft and I bring it ...

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Original Posted By: jim hyde
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> > > I wonder how my pietie would fly if I didn't cover the fuse ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 19:21:41 -0700 (PDT)

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<r>Original Posted By: "jarheadpilot82" > To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> tmail.com>> > Tom=2C> > I will be the first to ask it=2C as I am sure others are thinking it. Are you sure you want to sell? Plenty of builders have put their projects aside for long periods of time. Ask Kevin Purte...

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Original Posted By: Ken Bickers
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<r>Original Posted By: "jarheadpilot82" > > To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> >> >> > I wonder how my pietie would fly if I didn't cover the fuse>> *<URL url="http://www.matronics.com/N========================">http://www.matronics.com/N========================</URL> > forums.matronics.com/...

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<t>Original Posted By: glenschweizer(at)yahoo.com =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ALorenzo=2C=0A=0A =0A=0AMy Pietenpol came in at 745 lbs.=2C which=0Awas about 80 lbs more than I was expecting. I believe most of that extra=0Aweight was in the paint that I chose=2C PolyFiber=92s A...

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<t>Original Posted By: "john francis" >> >> >> >> Uh Oh........here are some photos of a to-the-plans, properly-built (and powered) Pietenpol in flight. If I am not mistaken, I detect some elevator droop in all of them. You know, there are consequences, to making changes to the original genuin...

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<t>Original Posted By: "M. Zeke Zechini" > > > > Uh Oh........here are some photos of a to-the-plans, properly-built (and powered) Pietenpol in flight. If I am not mistaken, I detect some elevator droop in all of them. You know, there are consequences, to making changes to the original genuine...

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<t>Original Posted By: Gary Boothe =0A =0A=0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AUh Oh........here are some photos of a to-the-plans=2C properly-built (and powered) Pietenpol in flight. If I am not mistaken=2C I detect some elevator droop in all of them.=0AYou know=2C there are consequences=2C t...

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<r>Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe" > To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> .com>> > My theory of the elevator droop is it could be an optical illusion. The outboard line from the elevator and horizontal stabilizer is bent because of the leading edge of the horizontal stabilizer not having the...

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<r>Original Posted By: Brian Kenney > To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> > > Cliff=2C> > In response to your question=2C "Doesn't everything below it act like a > pendulum? > > The short answer is NO=2C that said=2C some explanation is required...> > In a properly designed and built airplane...

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<r>Original Posted By: "jarheadpilot82" > > Good discussion thread on Weight and Balance. I have just received my package from Doc Mosher with WWs articles. Well documented info on CG and axle location. Keeping the CG location in mind as I build will have a high priority. I have much more to s...

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<t>Original Posted By: larharris2 Harris > To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> tmail.com>> > Lorenzo=2C> > I did a little "dumpster diving" on the internet and found a guy's estimate from Better Aircraft Fabric for the Oratex 6000 dated September 2013. It shows the price for the 1800mmX1m mat...

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<r>Original Posted By: larharris2 Harris =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ALorenzo=2C=0A=0A =0A=0AMy Pietenpol came in at 745 lbs.=2C which=0Awas about 80 lbs more than I was expecting. I believe most of that extra=0Aweight was in the paint that I chose=2C PolyFiber=92s Aerothane...

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<t>Original Posted By: jack(at)bedfordlandings.com Hi Lorenzo I looked at the Oretex website. When checking prices=2C I became discouraged when all they said was "compared to other finishing systems=2C the cost of spray guns=2C compressor setting up a booth...blah blah blah Oretex is comparable...

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<t>Original Posted By: Michael Perez =0A=0A=0AGood discussion thread on Weight and Balance. I have just received my package from Doc Mosher with WWs articles. Well documented info on CG and axle location. Keeping the CG location in mind as I build will have a high priority. I have much more to...

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<t>Original Posted By: "jarheadpilot82" > > Lorenzo,> > > > My Pietenpol came in at 745 lbs., which was about 80 lbs more than I was expecting. I believe most of that extra weight was in the paint that I chose, PolyFiber=99s Aerothane polyurethane. It is very heavy, and difficult to paint. I e...

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<t>Original Posted By: larharris2 Harris =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ALorenzo=2C=0A=0A =0A=0AMy Pietenpol came in at 745 lbs.=2C which=0Awas about 80 lbs more than I was expecting. I believe most of that extra=0Aweight was in the paint that I chose=2C PolyFiber=92s Aerothane...

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<r>Original Posted By: Michael Perez > To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> tmail.com>> > Brian=2C> > I am not getting your logic-> > "Your weight has nothing to do with it. You simply don't fly if there is an aft CG and having the fuel in the wing just makes the problem worse."> > Fuel in the...

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<r>Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" > To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> tmail.com>> > Oscar=2C> > Thanks for the input. Your clear explanation was the reason for my question. It sounds like running your nose tank low puts the non-standard weighing guy ...

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<t>Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com=0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ATerry=2C=0Ayou can see the effects of what you are asking using the spreadsheet I posted=0Ayesterday. If you just swap the values for the fuel tank and the baggage=0Ac...

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<t>Original Posted By: "aerocarjake" =0A=0A=0AThere is another discussion starting suggesting that the fuselage is the right place for the tank. Please read that.Rubber hoses are still in the mainstream of certified aircraft. They are reliable and easy to purchase but be sure you get the right...

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<r>Original Posted By: larharris2 Harris > To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> m>> > Hello=2C> > Like allways asking for something... I build a wing tank=2C and I want to know if the lines (from the tank to de gascolator) could be of rubber. I ask because i never saw any one of this kind=2C a...

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<t>Original Posted By: Lion Mason =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AScott Knowlton=97your new nose fuel tank looks great! Way to go. =0A=0A =0ASpeaking of outdated items and things that could be considered unsafe or obsolete----let us rethink Bernie=92s putting fuel up in the=0Awing right over the passe...

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<r>Original Posted By: "bdewenter" > To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> >> > Mike=2C> > Perhaps the reason why Tony Bingelis gets high marks in your book is because what you were looking for just happened to be his strength=2C namely information on simple plans built plane with a Continental...

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<r>Original Posted By: "William Wynne" > To: "pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com" > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Airspeed indicator>> I get the same eye roll here everyday especially when cxed checks come> in from aircraft spruce and wicks.. the ac 43 13 1b is on line at faa.govforfree.. I hate e...

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<r>Original Posted By: "William Wynne" > To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> >> > Builders=2C> > Six months ago I was sent a very nice hat from EAA HQ=2C one of the new ones with the traditional logo. It was something of an olive branch=2C as I had worked as a staff writer for many years=2C b...

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<r>Original Posted By: "Boatright, Jeffrey" > To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> > > Just kicking around and idea....> > In '09=2C for the 80th anniversary of the "Air Camper" several of us flew as a group to Oshkosh. We made a humble little statement that Pietenpols and their builders are a...

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<r>Original Posted By: danhelsper(at)aol.com > To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> >> > Kenny=2C> I watched the Youtube clip several times=2C and I think you are doing something pretty neat. I have been a life long fan of flatheads=2C Grace and I have a little collection in the hangar.> > I re...

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<r>Original Posted By: Brian Kenney > To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> >> > Brian=2C> You are correct on the limits of compression increase on flatheads. The point I was trying to make is that Kenny's HP per cubic inch at 6.5:1 should be better than the Ford HP per cubic inch at 4.25 to 5....

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<r>Original Posted By: "M. Zeke Zechini" >> > To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> >> WilliamTCA(at)aol.com>> >> > Brian,> > You are correct on the limits of compression increase on flatheads. The> point I was trying to make is that Kenny's HP per cubic inch at 6.5:1> should be better than the...

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Original Posted By:> steven.d.dortch(at)gmail.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Which one?

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<r>Original Posted By: Steven Dortch >>>> > To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>> >>> WilliamTCA(at)aol.com>>> >>> > Brian,>> > You are correct on the limits of compression increase on flatheads. The>> point I was trying to make is that Kenny's HP per cubic inch at 6.5:1>> should be better tha...

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<t>Original Posted By: "taildrags" cation:- Frazier Lake Airpark- 1C9 (near Hollister CA)=0A=0AOur host is Charlie Miller who is based at Frazier Lake.- =0A=0AMore to come in the coming days!=0A=0AMike Groah=0ATulare CA =0A414MV=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Thursday, March 13, 2014 6:18 AM, AircamperN1...

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<t>Original Posted By:> owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com > >> > There is only one Pietenpol...get the plans from the Pietenpol family. They> will have updates available not in the Flying and Glider Manual. Anything> else is not a Pietenpol.> > Gary Boothe> NX308MB> > > -----Original...

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<r>Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe" > > To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> >> > >> > This is an idea for discussion. I have a large binder of Buckeye> Pietenpol Newsletters. I would like to see them scanned and put somewhere> on the net for public access. There is a lot of timeless informat...

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<t>Original Posted By:> kipandbeth(at)earthlink.net As I said=2C this has all been discussed before=2C it's in the archives. He asserts the rights to all the issues that were published by him=2C he essentially WAS the BPA at the time=2C and copyright law is pretty clear that he can assert those...

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<r>Original Posted By: Brian Kenney > To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Brian C-FAUK" > > This is an idea for discussion. I have a large binder of Buckeye Pietenpol Newsletters. I would like to see them scanned and put somewhere on thenet for public ...

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<r>Original Posted By: glenschweizer(at)yahoo.com > >> >> >> > This has been hashed over many times in the past. Grant McClaren, a> > past publisher of the BPA News, won't allow this type of copying.> > It's too bad, but he feels that he was done wrong by the Piet> > community some years ago &a...

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<r>Original Posted By: "kevinpurtee" > rthlink.net>> > This has been hashed over many times in the past. Grant McClaren=2C a > past publisher of the BPA News=2C won't allow this type of copying. > It's too bad=2C but he feels that he was done wrong by the Piet > community some years ago & ...

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<t>Original Posted By: "Brian C-FAUK" I will be doing it again for I friend. I will take some pictures as I go. =0A=0A=0A=0A============0A============0A============0A============0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Old B...

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<r>Original Posted By: Brian Kenney > >> >> >> > According to the Flying and Glider Piet article the Ford> > A weighs 244lb.> > According to this Wikipedia article the Willys weighs> > in at 470 lb!> > We just told a certain propmaker that he couldn't use> > his VW engine because it's too smal...

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