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Original Posted By: Dan Yocum
List,They say that if you have an engine hanging from a tree, you're a redneck.How about if you have an engine hanging from a beam in your garage?The attached picture is just before I loaded my engine back in my truck fornext weekend's CC #18, in Livermore, CA. With any luck, I'll run that engineon a test stand, with William Wynne's supervision!Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (20 ribs down.) ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Those that have, and those that will...
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Original Posted By: "Billy McCaskill"
...get leaks in their fiberglass fuel tank. What did you think I was talking about?;-)Word to the wise, make your fuel tank as accessible as possible. Looks like I'llhave to cut into my center section blind to find out what's going in there.Humph. And leaves haven't even changed colors, yet. I might have to steal Ryanand Jess's Piet if I want to seem them, this year. -- Dan Yocumyocum137(at)gmail.com"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Am I a Redneck?
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Original Posted By: "Greg Cardinal"
.com>I am needing to replace my old Powertron- PT-20, 20 amp hour battery I put in the Corvair powered bird before I fly it. it is probably 5 or 6 years old and I had removed it from my Challenger a couple years back thinking it was bad but after some charging it has been cranking the Corvair for enough revolutions- to start it lately but I'm sure as weather gets colder it will fail.I'm going to Tulsa tomorrow to see my Mom and have heard of a batteries plus store around there that sells a lot of different kinds. I'd like to stay with about the same type battery since I have it mounted and the weight is good. but I have been reading on th fly-corvair- list lately that the dynamos like I have continue to charge all the time so I am not wanting to particularily cremate a new battery.have any of you used the sealed small batteries like this and is there a better option? RaymondRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 3#314363le, List Admin.=0A=0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________
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Dan,I created an 8x10 access panel in the top that included the filler neck.Everything gets sealed up before the panel goes in, that way I can reach inand do stuff. The panel would get riveted and sealed with gas tank sealergoop (forgot the name). Don't know if you would want to do that much, butmight be an idea.(WARNING: NOT FLIGHT TESTED)Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (20 ribs down.) -----Original Message-----
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Original Posted By: "Dan Yocum"
Hi Dan,Pro-Seal, the stuff the RV guys use on their tanks works good for patching like you need. Available at ACS, Van's etc.Perry RhoadsN12939----- Original Message -----
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A slight correction - Van's no longer uses "Pro-Seal". They found thatafter about 20 years Pro-Seal gets brittle and cracks (like it has on my 22year old RV-4), causing leaks around the rivets. Now they use a product (Ithink it is called Dyna-Seal) made by FlameMaster (love the name!) thatworks better but is a major pain to apply. You can get it from Van'sAircraft. On their website you can order it directly:http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi This link will get you totheir accessories catalog, where you can order it. Here is the link for thesealant itself:http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/cat ... ct=proseal Note that they (and everybody else) still refer to it as ProSeal.Good luck!Jack PhillipsNX899JPRaleigh, NC-----Original Message-----
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Original Posted By: "tkreiner"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: outstanding interview with Greg Cardinal at EAA 09 abouthis and Dale's Pietenpol ! Please excuse me if this was posted previously list but Grant MacLaren, our newsletter editor for the BPA from 1989 to 1999 sendme this fantastic link.You were really well-spoken Greg and gave a nice synopsis of what building and flying a Pietenpol is like. Good job---you make us all proud !Mike C.http://www.americanflyers.net/entertain ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Those that have, and those that will...
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Dan,When I was fixing up cars years ago, I found that soldering a US penny to a holein a galvanized tank was the right size, shape and was very available.I'll bet I repaired 20 tanks using that approach...Best of luck.--------Tom KreinerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 15:00:22 -0700 (PDT)
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Original Posted By: "Dangerous Dave"
I am needing to replace my old Powertron PT-20, 20 amp hour battery I put in theCorvair powered bird before I fly it. it is probably 5 or 6 years old and Ihad removed it from my Challenger a couple years back thinking it was bad butafter some charging it has been cranking the Corvair for enough revolutions to start it lately but I'm sure as weather gets colder it will fail.I'm goingto Tulsa tomorrow to see my Mom and have heard of a batteries plus store aroundthere that sells a lot of different kinds. I'd like to stay with about the sametype battery since I have it mounted and the weight is good. but I have beenreading on th fly-corvair list lately that the dynamos like I have continueto charge all the time so I am not wanting to particularily cremate a new battery.haveany of you used the sealed small batteries like this and is there abetter option? RaymondRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Those that have, and those that will...
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Original Posted By: jeff wilson
Just a word of caution,If you are soldering or welding on a fuel tank you needto clean it out well and keep it purged with an inert gas while you work on itor you may well wind up with shrapnel in you.Keeping any large openings openalso helps,if some thing goes bang its not in a confined space.--------Building a PietRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 17:08:39 -0700 (PDT)
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Original Posted By: "Billy McCaskill"
Thanks to all who replied. Your advice helps a lot. I am sure to be back withmore questions as they arise.CharlieRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/runn ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Those that have, and those that will...
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Original Posted By: "Jack"
An inexpensive and readily available inert gas is carbon monoxide. Just run ahose from the tailpipe of your car into the fuel tank for a few minutes and itwill eliminate the risk of fire or explosion. This is a trick that old hotroddersand motorcycle customizers use before welding or soldering on gas tanks.Just be VERY careful not to fill your lungs with the carbon monoxide...--------Billy McCaskillUrbana, ILtail section almost done, starting on ribs soonRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
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Original Posted By: Harvey Rule
Well, if you want to seal your fingers....On Oct 2, 2010, at 2:41 PM, Dan Yocum wrote:>> Hey, what do you think about Gorilla glue? I saw it in the sealant > aisle at Advance Auto, yesterday...>> *snicker*>> I'll order an oz or two of Pro-Seal on Monday.>> Thanks Perry and Jack,> Dan>>> On 10/01/2010 11:39 AM, Jack Phillips wrote:>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jack >> Phillips">>>> A slight correction - Van's no longer uses "Pro-Seal". They found >> that>> after about 20 years Pro-Seal gets brittle and cracks (like it has >> on my 22>> year old RV-4), causing leaks around the rivets. Now they use a >> product (I>> think it is called Dyna-Seal) made by FlameMaster (love the name!) >> that>> works better but is a major pain to apply. You can get it from Van's>> Aircraft. On their website you can order it directly:>> http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi This link will >> get you to>> their accessories catalog, where you can order it. Here is the >> link for the>> sealant itself:>> http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi? >> ident=1285950996-308-645&bro>> wse=misc&product=proseal>> Note that they (and everybody else) still refer to it as ProSeal.>>>> Good luck!>>>> Jack Phillips>> NX899JP>> Raleigh, NC>>> -- > Dan Yocum> Fermilab 630.840.6509> yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov> "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things.">>________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By:> yocum(at)fnal.gov
Be aware that this glue expands while curing.I used it on my rubber trim for my wing cover ends and I was not amused as the stuff began to come out the sides of the rubber trim.I had to cut the excess off with a box cutter knife because it looked like hell.It does hold well especially when glueing two different materials together like rubber and metal(aluminum in this case).As to whether it work well glueing the many pieces of wood together in the plane=2CI don't know.Perhaps someone else with more experience with the stuff could chime in here and give you an answer.> Date: Sat=2C 2 Oct 2010 13:41:03 -0500
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