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Original Posted By: "Fun2av8"
Hey Brett, thanks for checking in. There is a Jim McWhorter with a Maule in StrasburgVA? Now that is scary! I did have a Maule but its never been to Strasberg.I sold it to a gentlemen in GA where she is presently living the goodlife.Hope to meet up with you guys before we go to Brodhead in July! From what I cansee - Culpeper seems to be in the middle. Its early yet - still time to see.Jim--------Jim McWhorterN687MB (New Owner)Culpeper, VA KCJRRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: 2013 Brodhead Pietenpol Fly-In
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Original Posted By: Isablcorky(at)aol.com
(If there is already a thread for this topic - please let me know and I will deletethis on and add my comments to the existing thread).I checked the EAA Chapter 431 website - nothing posted yet for the 2013 Fly-In.However, the 2012 info is there and doubt there would be any substantial changesfor 2013.http://www.eaa431.org/?page_id=544Is everyone camping?Anyone staying at the local B&Bs?What does one do for wheels while at the event for 3-4 days?If you are flying your Piet in and plan on camping - where do you put your gear?Stow it all in the front Cockpit?Looks like food won't be an issue if they do the same this year they did last year?Jim--------Jim McWhorterN687MB (New Owner)Culpeper, VA KCJRRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
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Original Posted By: "tools"
Corky; I still have your building table, complete with glue drips, a few stapleshere and there, pencil notes, and the outline of an Air Camper on it. I cantake it apart, box it up, and ship it back to you with assembly instructions;o) "Place Part 2B against Part 3A and fasten with nails" ;o)The building table is my home workshop, in my outdoor canopy work area. I am notpermitted to make sawdust, filings, glue odors, paint overspray, or anythingelse INSIDE the house or garage. On the table are a dozen clamps of varioussizes and configurations, a small bench vise, my table saw, drill press, andbelt/disc sander. There is not enough room to use all of them on any one projectat a time, so I have to move them around to use them, but a guy needs to havea decent workbench or life is meaningless!--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 2013 Brodhead Pietenpol Fly-In
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Original Posted By: "echobravo4"
Tools,Really? Only three days to build new landing gear legs, scarf in two new longerons,replace the belly skin and one crossmember, and recover?Did you do the work up at the North Pole around the summer solstice?That's a LOT of work to accomplish in only three days. You must work very fast.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 2013 Brodhead Pietenpol Fly-In
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Original Posted By: "Fun2av8"
Michael,My assumption would be (and I know what happens when you assume) that there mightbe some small correlation, but the cost of such modification and the actualdrag relief gained would be inversely related.I guess that is a nice way of saying, "it ain't worth it". But what do I know.--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GARead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 2013 Brodhead Pietenpol Fly-In
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Original Posted By: Craig Aho
Since this will be my first time to Brodhead, has anyone got any pictures of theirfront cockpit loaded with camping gear? With food onsite - my guess is asmall tent and sleeping bag.One would also not want to be without the necessities (microwave, ice box, suitcase, fold-up bike, and of course, the kitchen sink) :-) BTW, last count, I think there are at least 5 Piets making the pilgrimage to Brodheadas a formation starting in Virginia. I think we are picking up a few moreenroute. No firm departure date has been set - but I would guess Mondayor Tuesday ( July 22-23). As a tag-a-long, I'm ready to go either day.The details for the 38th Annual Pietenpol Reunion are posted on the Brodhead Pietenpol Association website at: http://www.pietenpols.org/id17.html--------Jim McWhorterN687MB (New Owner)Culpeper, VA KCJRRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
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Original Posted By: "kevinpurtee"
Craig,How did you cover the wheels with fabric?Ray KrauseSkyScoutSent from my iPadOn Apr 10, 2013, at 11:02 AM, "CraigAho" wrote:> > I decided that on my new ship I will re-use my original wire wheels but leavethem uncovered. the spokes are plain steel and I had primer painted them originallybefore added fabric. Today I started to disassemble them so I can repaintthe Hubs and add Grease cups for that antique look. I will have to paint thespokes and rim some kind of chrome looking paint probably or maybe some contrastingcolor. Not sure what colors I will paint my new ship but at this pointI like Black and light blue, but that is a ways off at this point. Also am consideringif I could use my original 4.5" brake drums with a Band instead of theinternal shoes. Wish my Son Chris were not deployed overseas with the Navyas he is an excellent Bike Mechanic and I would have him re-lace and true so Iwouldn't have to do it again.> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 375#398375> > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/file10_104.jpg> http://forums.matronics.com//files/file16_711.jpg> > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 2013 Brodhead Pietenpol Fly-In
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Original Posted By: "Fun2av8"
Yes, for sure! Please post the ordering details.--------Jim McWhorterN687MB (New Owner)Culpeper, VA KCJRRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 2013 Brodhead Pietenpol Fly-In
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Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Jim,For the first couple of years, I carried everything with me. I carried mytent and sleeping bag in the nose baggage compartment and carried all myclothes in a duffle bag in the front seat, as shown in the picture below:This picture was taken while flying over northern Ohio in formation withMike Cuy when I flew to Brodhead for the first time in 2005.Since then, I learned to ship my camping gear to a friend who lives not toofar from Brodhead. Even later, I learned to just leave it with him and lethim store it for me since I don't camp anywhere else but Brodhead.Does Mr. Sam have a baggage compartment? Many Piets have either a nosebaggage compartment or a wing centersection baggage compartment, but if youhave neither, then a sling for the front seat as Don Emch mentioned is thebest solution.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia-----Original Message-----
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Original Posted By: "Don Emch"
I have a standard soft-sided zippered suitcase out in the garage. The zippershave been mangled enough by airport security and DHS to where the suitcase isuseless anymore, but I've kept it so I could salvage the roller wheels and telescopinghandle/spine from it. I have been thinking about how to custom-makea travel bag that would fit in the front cockpit of the Piet but use the handle,spine, and wheels from the salvaged suitcase. It would be wedge-shaped withthe bottom the same size as the front seat of an Air Camper and the top thewidth of the front cockpit so it could be strapped in just like a passenger andit would ride securely in there. It would not require removal of the frontstick. It would not interfere with the pilot's feet or the rudder bar or thebrake pedals. It would lift out, the handle would telescope out just like inthe airport, and off we go on roller wheels. Probably be a little wobbly sinceit would be in the shape of a 'V', but I've even thought about putting the wheelson the 'top' and the handle on the 'bottom' so that it would ride over theground like an inverted 'V' and be more stable.Now I only have 999,998 other projects ahead of that one. If someone else wantsto invent this thing and start selling them, I'll bet they could sell 8 or 10of them to lunatics like me who fly Air Campers and who think they can travelsomewhere in a 70 MPH airplane with a 2 hour range ;o)--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 2013 Brodhead Pietenpol Fly-In
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Original Posted By: "Fun2av8"
I need to cut the slit for the trim tab rod and wondering if the fabric will be stable enough as is. I've done the first shrink and added the pre-shrunk patch under the top fabric. I used the clear 3m cement. I need to fashion some sort of an exit cover for the top. Should I put another patch on the top and or the exit cover before cutting the slit?Thanks!JackDQoNCg0KU2VudCBmcm9tIG15IGlQYWQNCkphY2sgVGV4dG9y________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 2013 Brodhead Pietenpol Fly-In
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I will ask him .... sounds like a funny story in there somewhere.--------Jim McWhorterN687MB (New Owner)Culpeper, VA KCJRRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
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Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
Sorry for the slow reply... had some chores to do this evening.You can see a few pics of my wheels at these links. Bare metal... 4130 hubs and aluminum rims.http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_l ... ow=28After powder coating. Craig, you might consider powder coating instead of paintas it is way more durable and not very expensive. I paid $25 to a local outfitand they did all the prep and finishing work. It helped that I just askedfor the standard matte black, which they run all the time, so the price was rightand turnaround was quick! A color would have been only slightly more in costand time. http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_l ... &row=24All laced up. A friend of mine (and bicycle builder) laced and trued these forfree. Ha! One person's pain is another's pleasure... or something like that.http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_l ... row=18Hope that is what you were looking for.--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing GearRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 2013 Brodhead Pietenpol Fly-In
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Original Posted By: Craig Aho
Earl... that fire pic is hilarious. I've got to say, it was neat to look at, butyou are right... not the desired effect.--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing GearRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
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Original Posted By:> hangar10(at)cox.net
Very Nice Mark=2C Thank you for sharing. I managed to get mine disassembled today and and will clean and inspect the spokes and nipples. So far I have one broken spoke to replace. I originally laced and trued them myself and will do so again as my son who is a bike mechanic is deployed overseas on the USS Kearsage. I can see my wheels painted similar to yours. Thanks again Craig > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Sun rims and Avon Speedmaster tires
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Original Posted By: "Don Emch"
> =0A> The entire brake assembly is free floating on the> axle. The =0A axle does whatever it would do if> there weren't any brakes at all. I =0A went through> a few trees worth of paper to come up with the> =0A position and angles that would minimize the> rotational movement of the =0A brake assembly as> the axle goes up and down over bumps.> =0A> I don't expect to be using the brakes moving> over anything =0A that bumpy anyway and I certainly> don't plan on hitting the brakes on =0A touchdown! :-)> And not when moving at more than a snails pace> =0A either. Mostly for runup and pivot turning. Just> like the Chief I =0A presently fly. On the grass at my> strip=2C idle the engine and it stops =0A pretty quick on> it's own.> > This pic illustrates the =0A main parts. The disc=2C of> course=2C bolts to the wheel hub.There is a =0A large> bearing sheet between that and the plate on the> right =0A shown by a thick dark line. The only things> attached to the axle are =0A the end cap and split> collar. They hold everything in place =0A and> alignment. Clear as mud ??? :-)> > Clif> =0A Nothing worse could happen to one than> to be completely =0A understood.> C.G.Jung> > > > > > =0A > >> > Am trying to visualize =0A how this works=2C so the white metal arm is free to > > pivot up and =0A back down with the axel and still prevents rotation under > > =0A braking? I assume we only need 2-3 inches of travel for the axel?> =0A >> >> >> >> > Read this topic =0A online here:> >> > =0A http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 165#398165> >> =0A >> >> >> >> >> >> =0A >> >> >> >> >> > =0A -----> > No virus found in this message.> > Checked by AVG =0A - www.avg.com> > =0A=0Ahref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Piet ... om/c=0A=0A No virus found in this =0A message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.comVersion: 2013.0.3272 / Virus =0A Database: 3162/6235 - Release Date: 04/09/13=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A============0A============0A============0A============0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 2013 Brodhead Pietenpol Fly-In
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Original Posted By: Ray Krause
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> > > Sorry for the slow reply... had some chores to do this evening.> > You can see a few pics of my wheels at these links. > > Bare metal... 4130 hubs and aluminum rims.> http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_l ... 384&row=28> > After powder coating. Craig=2C you might consider powder coating instead of paint as it is way more durable and not very expensive. I paid $25 to a local outfit and they did all the prep and finishing work. It helped that I just asked for the standard matte black=2C which they run all the time=2C so the price was right and turnaround was quick! A color would have been only slightly more in cost and time. > http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_l ... 389&row=24> > All laced up. A friend of mine (and bicycle builder) laced and trued these for free. Ha! One person's pain is another's pleasure... or something like that. > http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_l ... 048&row=18> > Hope that is what you were looking for.> > --------> Mark Chouinard> Wings=2C Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing Gear> > > > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 486#398486> > > > > > > ============================================> > > ________________________________________________________________________________
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