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Original Posted By: "Boatright, Jeffrey"
Gentlemen,If and when you were to file a flight plan (LOL), what would you use for the typeaircraft?Thanks,JackSent from my iPad________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
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Original Posted By: "tools"
What's our choices? I haven't filed a flight plan in 22 years. I think I haveforgotten how to. :)--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Flight plan symbol
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Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
I haven't filed one in over fifteen! And I've NEVER filed one as a civilian...Pretty sure dispatch would know what to do! Geesh.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Flight plan symbol
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Original Posted By: "Douwe Blumberg"
What would the Great Waldo Pepper do? I'll bet Bernard never filed. All kidding aside, Can't you just say "experimental" and state you speed??????--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
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Pietenpol-List: flop latch

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Original Posted By: Jack
I did used the same approach as has been mentioned with the flat spring androd.I found that the one half of the flat spring from an inspection cover workedwell. The rest I did just the same and have seen it used many timessuccessfully.As has been mentioned, even without a latch, the flop interestingly onlyrises a couple of inches in flight. I'm not suggesting it shouldn't belatched down, just noting that it doesn't need to be crazy strong.What DOES happen is you WILL forget to close it when you start the engineand it will be blown down HARD. Be sure to incorporate some sort of bufferor it'll start loosening your hinge after a few of those incidents.Don't ask me how I know!!Douwe________________________________________________________________________________
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Flight plan symbol

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Original Posted By: John Letkeman
Probably could just say experimental on the frequency, but what about filing electronically,hmmm.Sent from my iPad> On Jan 29, 2015, at 5:25 PM, AircamperN11MS wrote:> > > What would the Great Waldo Pepper do? > > I'll bet Bernard never filed. > > All kidding aside, Can't you just say "experimental" and state you speed??????> > --------> Scott Liefeld> Flying N11MS since March 1972> Steel Tube> C-85-12> Wire Wheels> Brodhead in 1996> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 834#437834> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
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RE: Pietenpol-List: Flight plan symbol

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I'll take a stab at it.According to the FAA's Airman's information manual (AIM) your probablytrying to fill out box 3 on the flight plan. Seehttp://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/at ... .html.8Box 3 is to contain "the designator for the aircraft, or if unknown consultthe FSS briefer". A little more sleuthing found this publication of Aircraft Type Designators,https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publica ... er.pdfThis is the page for P-manufactures and low and behold there is a Pietenpol(look way down the list)but it has the wrong name of the airplane, anAerial. https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publica ... 2-p.htmThe designator for this airplane is PARL. I'd bet this will work. If however you want to be more precise use this as a guidehttps://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/at ... 5-3.htmThe designator for a Pietenpol would be a HXAChrisSacramento, CAWestcoastPiet.com-----Original Message-----
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Original Posted By: Ray Krause
John,Welcome to our forum. Sounds like you have a great project. How far along is theproject? I'm anxious to see some pictures.We're really a bunch of nice guys, fear not!Thanks for joining us, we will learn a lot,Ray KrauseBuilding a Sky ScoutSent from my iPad> On Jan 29, 2015, at 3:26 PM, John Letkeman wrote:> > > Hi All! My name is John Letkeman, I'm the proud new owner of a Pietenpol Aircamperproject,> The builder Jack Frees, passed away before he could finish it and it was thendonated to EAA in Oklahoma, and that is whom I purchased it from and traileredit home to west Texas, maybe someone on this forum knew the builder? I planon installing an A65 Continental and moving the rudder pedals forward 2" as I'm6'4", I will try to post some pictures.> John> > Sent from my iPad> > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Flight plan symbol

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Original Posted By:> owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Chris,I knew there would be someone out there that would take the challenge and run with it. And run you did. Thanks for the extensive homework. I guess I=99ll be filing with HXA due to your research. I appreciate what you did.Thanks,jack> On Jan 29, 2015, at 9:25 PM, CatDesigns wrote:> > > I'll take a stab at it.> > According to the FAA's Airman's information manual (AIM) your probably> trying to fill out box 3 on the flight plan. See> http://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publicat ... ml#aim0501.> html.8> > > Box 3 is to contain "the designator for the aircraft, or if unknown consult> the FSS briefer". > > A little more sleuthing found this publication of Aircraft Type Designators,> > > https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publica ... der%20Cove> r.pdf> > > This is the page for P-manufactures and low and behold there is a Pietenpol> (look way down the list)but it has the wrong name of the airplane, an> Aerial. > > https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publica ... /5-2-p.htm> > The designator for this airplane is PARL. I'd bet this will work. > > If however you want to be more precise use this as a guide> > https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publica ... NT/5-3.htm> > The designator for a Pietenpol would be a HXA> > > Chris> Sacramento, CA> WestcoastPiet.com> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
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RE: Pietenpol-List: Flight plan symbol

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Beautiful plane!Gary BootheNX308MB
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Nice airplane Jack. Did you build it? You should send me a bunch of pictures to put on my website.Glad I could helpChrisSacramento, CAWestcoastPiet.com
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Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Wow Jack! Beautiful airplane. You been hold'n back on us!=0A=0A=0ADan Helsper=0ALoensloe Airfield=0APuryear, TN=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2015 04:23:02 -0800
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Flight plan symbol

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Original Posted By:>> owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Beautiful plane!Ray KrauseSent from my iPad> On Jan 29, 2015, at 8:39 PM, Fastnaught John wrote:> > Chris,> I knew there would be someone out there that would take the challenge and run with it. And run you did. Thanks for the extensive homework. I guess I=99ll be filing with HXA due to your research. I appreciate what you did.> Thanks,> jack> > >> On Jan 29, 2015, at 9:25 PM, CatDesigns wrote:>> >> >> I'll take a stab at it.>> >> According to the FAA's Airman's information manual (AIM) your probably>> trying to fill out box 3 on the flight plan. See>> http://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publicat ... ml#aim0501.>> html.8>> >> >> Box 3 is to contain "the designator for the aircraft, or if unknown consult>> the FSS briefer". >> >> A little more sleuthing found this publication of Aircraft Type Designators,>> >> >> https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publica ... der%20Cove>> r.pdf>> >> >> This is the page for P-manufactures and low and behold there is a Pietenpol>> (look way down the list)but it has the wrong name of the airplane, an>> Aerial. >> >> https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publica ... /5-2-p.htm>> >> The designator for this airplane is PARL. I'd bet this will work. >> >> If however you want to be more precise use this as a guide>> >> https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publica ... NT/5-3.htm>> >> The designator for a Pietenpol would be a HXA>> >> >> Chris>> Sacramento, CA>> WestcoastPiet.com>> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message-----
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Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Hi Jack,As others have said, I rarely ever file a VFR flight plan, especially in myPietenpol. I have had to file a flight plan only once, when I flew it intoDulles International Airport (KIAD). Since Dulles is inside the WashingtonSFRA, a flight plan is required. I filed as "Experimental N899JP". When Icalled Potomac Tracon on the radio to get my transponder code and clearanceto enter the Class B airspace, I called in as "Pietenpol November X-Ray 899Juliet Papa".Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia-----Original Message-----
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RE: Pietenpol-List: Flight plan symbol

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Very looking Pietenpol, Jack. Is that dark green or dark blue? Where are you located?Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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Dan,Thanks, it's due to much help from folks like you.JackSent from my iPad> On Jan 30, 2015, at 6:29 AM, danhelsper(at)aol.com wrote:> > Wow Jack! Beautiful airplane. You been hold'n back on us!> > Dan Helsper> Loensloe Airfield> Puryear, TN> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D> ________________________________________________________________________________
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Jack,The green is "Forest green" poly tone, with "Tuscon cream."JackSent from my iPad> On Jan 30, 2015, at 11:04 AM, Jack Philips wrote:> > Very looking Pietenpol, Jack. Is that dark green or dark blue? Where are you located?> > Jack Phillips> NX899JP> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia>
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Flight plan symbol

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Jack,Sorry I forgot the second question. I'm in Gilbert, SC. It's about 25 miles west of Columbia, about center of the state. I live in a fly-in community called Whiteplains plantation ( SC99). Come by and visit anytime.JackSent from my iPad> On Jan 30, 2015, at 11:04 AM, Jack Philips wrote:> > Very looking Pietenpol, Jack. Is that dark green or dark blue? Where are you located?> > Jack Phillips> NX899JP> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia>
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Original Posted By: Jack
Jack,It is indeed a beautiful airplane. I haven't seen your answer yet, but I was curiousas well. Did you build it?It is a beautiful airplane, but in your large photo I noticed 2 things worth, Ithink, mentioning. 1.) you have hard fuel lines, combined with 2.) smaller diagonalbraces on the front cabanes. William Wynne has written 2 articles abouthow that combination almost killed him. Here are links to both articles-http://flycorvair.net/2013/12/19/pieten ... s-part-2/I think that as a group that we are not doing anyone a favor if we point out onlythe good and avoid pointing out any areas to be improved upon. I hope you takethis post in the spirit it is sent, one pilot concerned about another.BTW, I live in Athens GA, not horribly far from you. I would like to fly or driveover some time and look at your plane in person. Maybe we can set that up sometime.--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GARead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
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Pietenpol-List: Re: Flight plan symbol

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Original Posted By: "jarheadpilot82"
Terry,I bought a project about 2 years ago and finished it. So I sort-of built it. Ican certainly tell you I put a lot of work into it.I don't take any offense to observations good or bad. I appreciate the counsel.I have commiserated over the fuel lines. I had them installed when I found outabout WW's article. I still may bite the bullet and change them. Thanks forthe observation.I would enjoy your visit. Please come by anytime, in fact let's set a day. What'sgood for you?As an aside, I'm looking forward to Brodhead this year and would like to fly therewith someone, are you game?Please keep in touch.JackSent from my iPad> On Jan 31, 2015, at 3:54 AM, jarheadpilot82 wrote:> > > Jack,> > It is indeed a beautiful airplane. I haven't seen your answer yet, but I wascurious as well. Did you build it?> > It is a beautiful airplane, but in your large photo I noticed 2 things worth,I think, mentioning. 1.) you have hard fuel lines, combined with 2.) smallerdiagonal braces on the front cabanes. William Wynne has written 2 articles abouthow that combination almost killed him. Here are links to both articles-> > http://flycorvair.net/2013/12/19/pieten ... d-cabanes/> > http://flycorvair.net/2013/12/20/fuel-l ... es-part-2/> > I think that as a group that we are not doing anyone a favor if we point outonly the good and avoid pointing out any areas to be improved upon. I hope youtake this post in the spirit it is sent, one pilot concerned about another.> > BTW, I live in Athens GA, not horribly far from you. I would like to fly or driveover some time and look at your plane in person. Maybe we can set that upsome time.> > --------> Semper Fi,> > Terry Hand> Athens, GA> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 886#437886> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Flight plan symbol
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Original Posted By: "tools"
Jack,I could be! Let's talk.--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GARead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Flight plan symbol
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Pietenpol-List: Re: flop latch

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Original Posted By: "taildrags"
Jack,Are you considering flying the Piet up to Brodhead? I did last year, and probablywill again this year. Mine is based just south of Chatt TN. Jeff Boatrightalmost did, if we start to work on him now, might be able to twist his armenough to do it this year, then we'd have a squadron going up!It's a hell of a commitment to get one that far, and starting a plan now probablyisn't very much too early! Also, I'm hosting a weekend of playing around with machine tools I have just southof Chatt from 26 Feb to 1 Mar. There's going to be half a dozen or more Pietenpolguys there, you're more than welcome to come join us. There's a reallynice grass field about 5 miles from the place, very welcome to base out ofthere. About 10 miles south is 9a5 which has self serve, indoor hangar space,etc. Do a quick look through the threads on here about "toolstock" for details.ToolsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: flop latch
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Flight plan symbol

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Original Posted By: John Letkeman
Terry,Give me some contact info or call me 802-414-2235 Sent from my iPad> On Jan 31, 2015, at 8:19 AM, jarheadpilot82 wrote:> > > Jack,> > I could be! Let's talk.> > --------> Semper Fi,> > Terry Hand> Athens, GA> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 888#437888> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
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Pietenpol-List: Re: Defensive flying

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Original Posted By: "Larry Vetter"
Tools,I AM planning to fly to Brodhead this year. I'd like to talk to you about it. Howabout a phone conversation?Mine Is 803-414-2235. Let's talk.JackSent from my iPad> On Jan 31, 2015, at 9:20 AM, tools wrote:> > > Jack,> > Are you considering flying the Piet up to Brodhead? I did last year, and probablywill again this year. Mine is based just south of Chatt TN. Jeff Boatrightalmost did, if we start to work on him now, might be able to twist his armenough to do it this year, then we'd have a squadron going up!> > It's a hell of a commitment to get one that far, and starting a plan now probablyisn't very much too early! > > Also, I'm hosting a weekend of playing around with machine tools I have justsouth of Chatt from 26 Feb to 1 Mar. There's going to be half a dozen or morePietenpol guys there, you're more than welcome to come join us. There's a reallynice grass field about 5 miles from the place, very welcome to base out ofthere. About 10 miles south is 9a5 which has self serve, indoor hangar space,etc. Do a quick look through the threads on here about "toolstock" for details.> > Tools> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 889#437889> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Defensive flying
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Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
Gary, You did a good job, and you make a good argument for a smoke system(and keepingit full). I've flown an ultralight to local airports even for a flight breakfast on occasionand really watch traffic as I get close. Being slower than the other trafficI fly a closer pattern and a lower one. I've had guys scoot in front of meand make base and final doubting if they ever saw me. Glad you heard them and at least tried to be seen. With my very limited time in a Piet. I do my takeoffs like you. Let the tail comeup on its own...Seems more comfortable that way. My landings at times leavea lot to be desired...Every other landing is pretty good [Embarassed] LarryRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
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Thanks, Larry. My best landings have been with a little power...Gary BootheNX308MB-----Original Message-----
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Original Posted By: "taildrags"
Gary;My training in taildraggers began a lot of years ago (1971) and always includedforward pressure on the stick to get the tail up as soon as possible, then neutralstick, rolling on the mains till rotation speed was reached. This had beeninstinctive with me until just recently, when I decided to try what everybodyelse seemed to be doing with their Air Campers... "just let her roll and she'lllift off when she's ready to fly". I was amazed at how nice the stick feltwhen using that technique, instead of having to push forward against prettystrong pressure intentionally. And sure enough, she flew when she was readyto fly, and in what seemed to be the same amount of takeoff distance.I will still use the aggressive stick-forward technique on soft fields or withdeep grass just to cut down on rolling resistance to get going, but on hard surfaceit sure seems nicer to hold more or less neutral stick and just let theairplane do what it likes to do.Larry: my record with landings is about like yours, but maybe not quite so good.Every third landing or so, turns out decent. The trouble is, sometimes I makeall three of those 'landings' on the same approach (bounce it a little whenI flare just a tad too high, add power to try to save it, bounce it again, chopthe power, then grin and wave to the disconcerted onlookers).--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Sun-N-Fun 2015
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Original Posted By: Gardiner Mason
Dang it! I was hoping Dick and the others would finish up those wooden floatsand then put them on an Air Camper for testing. Now that would be sweet! Imagineflying in to a little lake with no roads leading to it, unlimbering yourfly rod or spinning rig and hooking into some nice fish for a shore lunch. AirCamping at its finest!Hmmm... I wonder if Dick and the float builders thought about including some drywells down in one or two of the chambers in the floats for that cast iron skillet,a simple little grill to sit on some rocks over the fire, and some utensils.I'm so easy to please that I could just take some blackening spices, grillthe fillets, and make a simple sandwich by wrapping a piece of bread arounda grilled fillet and chow down.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun-N-Fun 2015
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Original Posted By:> owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
I agree with Barry. I will never fly my Piet down there. After the tornado theofficials just tore our planes apart to get them out of the way. A lot of my damagewas due to the clean up. Gsrdiner.Sent from my iPad> On Feb 1, 2015, at 1:24 PM, "Barry Davis" wrote:> > After the Sun n Fun tornado, I can say that none of the Big Piets will be> there> Barry> NX973BP> > > > -----Original Message-----
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Original Posted By: Jim Boyer
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Original Posted By: "dgaldrich"
I am currently working on issues with the water rudders on my floats and I'm not reedy to bring them down to SNF. That may be next years project, I still have to work out the mounts. Or, I would prefer that we can build a fuselage for someone else. If anyone wants to we can build a fuselage this year. Please let me knowDick N.----- Original Message -----
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Original Posted By: "Dick N"
Dick;Not sure if you mean that you have not fitted water rudders yet, or that you havesome but they're not working out. In any case, note that there are some prettygood ones out there that the ocean kayaks use. Lightweight, strong, andretractable. Most ocean kayak rudders have quite a small area since they aren'tdesigned for sharp, tight turns- but it's easy to add a larger blade to thestock rudder using some stainless hardware.Thanks for taking on the project in the first place. I've heard people ask aboutfloats in the past, but you're the first that I know of who has actually undertakenthe task.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
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Original Posted By: "taildrags"
Hi OscarI have been looking for the kayak rudders but I've only found one pair and they were very expensive. I'm thinking of building a couple. I'm working on finishing my Corvair engine.Dick----- Original Message -----
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Original Posted By: CLIF DAWSON
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Original Posted By: "jarheadpilot82"
Subject: B: OT: Lindbergh's Flight--A MUST for airplane lovers!This was really awesome. Lindbergh's Flight Win Perkins, a real estate appraiser who specializes in airportproperties, has posted on his Website, a video he created of CharlesLindbergh's famous and risky takeoff in the "Spirit of St. Louis" (20 May1927). According to Perkins, this is unlike any other presentation of the takeofffootage. Perkins said he "painstakingly assembled news footage from five camerasthat filmed Lindbergh's takeoff from Roosevelt Field, Long Island "and"mixed it with enhanced audio from the same newsreel sources."This is one of the most interesting videos I've seen over the Internet.INSTRUCTIONS: Below When you click on the address, episode #3 comes upready to play.I suggest you first click on "CONTACT" to the left and select #1, then watchthem in order, #1 through #4 ... (each time going back to " Contact" and selecting the next one).I was glued to the screen through all 4. What guts it took for Lindbergh toovercome the odds against him, and accomplish this amazing feat!How he survived the fatigue from lack of sleep is hard to believe. http://www.airportappraisals.com/Jim HolmesN4293B/F35-- Blue Skies,Steve D________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Flight plan symbol
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