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Pietenpol-List: where are the new guys/gals??

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 5:46 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
Hey all,During a recent long drive I got to thinking about the future of thePietenpol "marque" with some concern. I then looked through all mynewsletter back issues and realized just how many of our currently flyingfleet were began in the late eighties and early nineties. It got me to thinking, "what was happening during those years thatstimulated so much interest and building that isn't happening now?". MaybeI'm wrong, but Just think of all the projects started around then and it isquite remarkable. I'd love other's input, especially those who got into itthen, but I came to two different possibilities.1. There was a strong and active Pietenpol club that really helpedgenerate interest in the plane2. People had more expendable resources and weren't lured away from a"plans built plane" by "quick-build/snap together" kits.3. All of the above?I look around at Brodhead, and the projects being worked on and ask myself,"where are the young people building" and with a few exceptions, therearen't many. As always, the loss of the next generation bodes ill for thefuture if we can't change things. Which led me to my next question (s)1. What can we do corporately and individually to increase "Pietenpolawareness" in the homebuilding community?Thoughts?Douwe________________________________________________________________________________

RE: Pietenpol-List: where are the new guys/gals??

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 6:07 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Honestly, I don't really agree. Young builders have historically never beena big part of EAA builders, for many logical reasons. Yet, I now know ofseveral who mainly communicate through alternate media like FB and WilliamWynne's new chat group. The attached directory from last year lists 119builder/pilots.and there are many missing from the list. It appears asthough the Piet is doing pretty good. Gary BootheNX308MB

Pietenpol-List: where are the new guys/gals??

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 6:26 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: Jim Boyer

Re: Pietenpol-List: where are the new guys/gals??

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 7:03 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: benjamin piet
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: where are the new guys/gals??

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 7:18 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: David

Pietenpol-List: Re: where are the new guys/gals??

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 8:40 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Jeff Boatright"
I'm driving to Skokie IL (just outside of Chicago) on the evening of 13 July. Iwill be leaving northern Alabama near Huntsville. I will then head up to BrodheadWI on Wednesday the 15th. If anyone would like to contact me and discussa ride just drop me an email and maybe we can work something out. I'll be leavingSkokie IL on Sunday the 19th and will be heading back down to Alabama thesame day.Tonytonyp51qa(at)gmail.com--------Tony CrawfordRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: where are the new guys/gals??

Pietenpol-List: Re: where are the new guys/gals??

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 9:28 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "taildrags"
Well, "young" may be relative here. I started attending Brodhead in 1992. At thattime, there was a mix of old-timers and REALLY old-timers. Ed Salmson, DickAlkire, VanderVoort the Elder, Chris Eggsgardt (spelling?), Charlie Rubrick,Dick Weeden, and many whose names I can't recall right now. Those guys were allstill very active in the sport. I was, BY FAR, the youngest builder/pilot (andnot much of either) that I was aware of at the Brodhead. I was 30. A lot ofthose guys were in their 60s and 70s. And attendance was MUCH less than now.Now think back to the most recent Brodhead you've attended. How many people werein their 30s? 60s? 70s? I don't know about your recollections, but mine arethat there were very few owners or builders in their 30s, but LOTS in their 40s,50s, 60s, and 70s. So, from my very limited experience, I'd say that the Pietenpolworld is actually somewhat YOUNGER than when I first became involved.And it really is true that 60 is the new 40. Heck, 70 is the new 40! There arenow more "younger" Piet people, and more ACTIVE Piet people of all ages, thanthere ever have been.And you never know who among the non-owner, non-builder attendees will turn outto be "Pietenpeople." Anyone who met me at my first Brodhead would've peggedme as a wannabe and probably discounted my presence as just another ground pounder.But today I own a Piet and fly it a lot. I've introduced many people totheir first flights in small planes, or in open-cockpit planes, or in taildraggers,etc. Who knows how many of THOSE people will continue an interest. Heck,one of them is trying to buy into my Piet as it is - and he gets to fly spamcans for free!I don't know that I have much a point here, other than that my perspective is thatthe Pietenpol world is doing better now than it has since I became aware ofit 20-25 years ago.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: where are the new guys/gals??

Pietenpol-List: Re: where are the new guys/gals??

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 12:07 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
Want to see if there is anybody around who might be interested? Just open yourgarage door when you're working on some part of the airplane, especially onceit's on the gear. That's how I found builders when I first got interested inexperimental aviation... by chance, by seeing something that looked like an airplanein somebody's garage. You don't have to hang out a sign, attend a meeting,post a notice, nothing. Just open the garage door anytime you're workingon the airplane or some part of it. Pretty soon you'll find out if there issomebody out there who has the beginnings of a pair of wings on them.Myself, personally, I have all of the raw materials (spar material, wood to beripped into longerons and framing, plywood for the sides, landing gear, otherbits) to get someone well along on an Air Camper build- and I would gladly getthem started under the pretense that "I am 50-50 partners with you on this airplane".I'd never charge them for it and would be happy just to see anotherPiet under construction. An interested and dedicated builder could have enoughto work on for a few years, at no cost, just with the things I have in the hangarand shop, including tools. I'm still waiting for that interested personto show up, and the younger the better. Old guys just seem to want to tell storiesinstead of working ;o) And I'm going to be ready for Social Security nextyear!! I'd also fly a newbie around in my Air Camper to really stoke thefires, no charge for fuel or anything else. Teach them how to prop a Continental. Anybody out there, in southern Oregon or northern California?--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: where are the new guys/gals??

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 8:19 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Dick N"
I'm with Jeff on this one. I too went to Brodhead in 1996. I was only thirtyfive. I thought I was the youngest there. I guess I don't remember meeting Jeffthere. It was a bunch of very senior folks there. I found them all to bevery nice made me feel very welcome. Maybe because dad and I flew both our Pietsto Brodhead that year, but I think they would have made me feel just as welcomeif I had walked in. Heck, I got to fly two other Piets when I was there.Piet owners just said (there's my plane over there). Go fly it if you like.So I did. It was great.Back here in So CA I had started hosting a south west Piet gathering. I did itfor 14 or 15 years. The So CA group was getting pretty long in the tooth andsome folks were having a hard time getting around so I stopped hosting it.There was a year break and then a new younger crowd started hosting a west costgathering at Frazier Lake airport only 3.5 hours away in my Piet. I have beenattending it now. Guess what. Now I am one of the old guys at 54 yrs old.What a great feeling to see the next generation has taken over the movement.I still see a lot of the old Piets still flying and a bunch of new ones as well.There are a bunch out there. It's just very hard to get them all in oneplace. Mostly because they are slow and don't get too far from their home airport.Dad still flys his, he is 83 now and a 30 minute flight is now long enoughfor him. I wouldn't even think to ask him to make the 6 hour journey thethe new gathering spot. Anyway, I'm rambling now. In conclusion, I see that the Piet community is aliveand well (maybe stronger) and in good hands with the next generation of Pietfolks. Thank you Bernie for touching so many lives.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Re: Pietenpol-List: where are the new guys/gals??

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 9:56 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: Jim Boyer
JimI tried to help a high school build a Piet a few years ago. The proposal went to the school board and they said they didnt want the kids using and power tools and rejected my offer. Dick N. ----- Original Message -----

RE: Pietenpol-List: Tail Hinge Alternative

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:39 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Michael,I think Tony Bingelis covers this in his books. What I did on the piano hinges on my ailerons was to cut the hinge pin slightly short, then insert it into the hinge and peen the end loops, trapping the hinge pin in place. Of course, the hinge can no longer be disassembled.On my baggage compartment door, I thought I might want to be able to pull the hinge pin, so I made the pin long and put a 90=C2=B0 bend in it that was trapped by the edge of the opening when the door is closed. With the door open, the hinge pin can be rotated until it is clear of the edge of the door and can then be pulled out.Some people have put loops in the end of the hinge pin and then inserted a screw through the loop into the structure to hold the pin in place. There are many ways to do it =93 the main thing is to make sure the pin cannot leave of its own volition, unless you want to have a VERY bad day. If you do nothing to retain the pin, I can assure you that under the vibrations of flight it WILL depart.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia

Re: Pietenpol-List: Tail Hinge Alternative

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:50 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: Jim Boyer

Pietenpol-List: Re: where are the new guys/gals??

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 11:53 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: Steven Dortch
The age thing here isn't any different than in most hobbies along these lines.Control line model airplanes for example. The brodhead of that sport was a contest called the vintage stunt championships.At around 35 I was by a stretch the second youngest contestant... Beat onlyby my eight yr old son. Every time he even got near some guys model, he gotquipped at, rudely. It was pretty clear he wasn't welcome there. We had a hardtime getting any circle time for a couple of practice flights while the majorplayers flew dozens of practice flights consecutively. The next year I took a bud and his ten yr old. We were all flying standby notsure if we could make it so didn't preregister. Because of that, we weren't allowedto participate... Fine, don't let me fly, but two kids?While not quite as bad, three years ago my son and I broke our plane on the wayto brodhead. It was pretty common knowledge... No one offered Scott a ride.Most folks knew he was soloed, not much of a stretch to reckon he might be alittle discouraged not being able to fly the whole weekend. Last year we madeit to brodhead, he flew the leg in, I climbed out of the front of the plane butit was I who was approached and offered the hat. This is not a plug for my son, but does anyone know of anyone else who has doneALL of their flight training in a Piet? He's got about fifty hours in his. He'll get his license in it if we can find an examiner who will do it. Still,at brodhead he really isn't treated like a peer. Maybe because he didn't buildit? I can tell you he isn't very interested in going back. And trust me,he forms his own opinions. About half of the kids that pick up our garbage at brodhead have never been offereda ride. The other half had only had one ride in several years of workingthe event. I took every one I could find up. Real numbers of them didn't showup until I recruited one kid to go find more! He did... Can't just offerone ride and send them on their way. Rides during different conditions, sticktime, invite them to sit around and talk planes, invite them to help do whatever,just get them involved. If you want kids or younger folks interested, you've really gotta work hard andbe very overt, and be persistent. There's another control line contest, muchmore friendly, called brodak's flyin. I made a point of chasing kids and observersdown to offer them an instructed flight. Most say no at first, becausethey're shy and such. It took real effort to make them comfortable enough totry it. All said and done, I probably instructed two to three hundred folksover a six year period, probably a thousand or more flights. Maybe five evertook to it right away. I reckon many more will some day in the future. It'seasy to be discouraged.I think people are too diverse and flying too comprehensive for a "program" towork, you gotta track them down individually and see what ya can do. Food for thought.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Pietenpol-List: Re: Tail Hinge Alternative

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 12:39 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "GNflyer"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Tail Hinge AlternativeI had the piano hinge pin on a oil access panel work it's way out. I hearda banging and then saw the panel banging up and down. It was held on by thebutterfly wing dzuz fasteners. When the front fastener gave way the reargave way quickly and the panel flew down the side of the plane scratchingthe window and some paint. I turned and saw the panel once headed for afield.We replaced the panel and my experienced mechanic buddy made sure that thepin was bent to secure it.I searched the field by air and on foot but never found the panel.-- Blue Skies,Steve D________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Tail Hinge Alternative

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 7:24 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: Michael Groah
What about leaving the pin long enough to bend a loop in it and secure it witha screw?Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 06:02:09 +0000 (UTC)

Pietenpol-List: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering June 6, 2015

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:14 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: Michael Perez

Pietenpol-List: RE: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering June 6, 2015

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:28 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: Michael Groah [mailto:dskogrover(at)yahoo.com]
Thanks, Mike! With any luck I=99ll trade in the =98ghost=99 picture for an actual photo!Gary BootheNX308MB

Re: Pietenpol-List: where are the new guys/gals??

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 10:13 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: Gerrit-Jan Kaal
Hope to make it one year.... (have to finish building the plane first!!)--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 20:03:18 +0200Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: where are the new guys/gals??

Pietenpol-List: Re: Tapered -V- Flanged Weight

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 1:39 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Ryan Mueller"
I have never weighed the cranks so i searched the internet this morning and couldnot find any useful info on the subject. I think that if you were able tocompare them, you would probably find a difference of less than 1 pound. Rememberthat you will need to weight the prop flange that goes with the taper shaft.I say, use what you already have or what you run across first.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Tapered -V- Flanged Weight

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 7:10 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
As an example, thanks to the Mooney Mite site, see the note calling out the weightdifference in the Continental Detail Specifications doc for the A-65.http://www.mooneymite.com/pdfs/contengi ... fReference page 6, section D-2, where they list the engine dry weights: Add 1.04 lbs. for Flanged Shaft If you have a copy of the overhaul manual, this note should also be listed in theNotes area at the bottom of the Table of Specifications numbers in SectionI.-RyanRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 13:57:44 +0000 (UTC)

Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Aircamper in Scotland

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 2:20 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: Marcus Zechini
Welcome to Shempston Flying Group based in NE Scotland. Our 7 pilots have boughtPietenpol Aircamper G-VALS from builder John Bygraves and flown her from theSouth of England in March of this year. We are all beginning to learn the delightsof flying this lovely aircraft! Iain MacdonaldRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/imag ... ______Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 15:27:23 -0400Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Aircamper in Scotland

Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol Aircamper in Scotland

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 3:02 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: Jim Boyer
Nice! By strange coincidence...this VERY day I saw emails we exchanged in Oct of lastyear, where I sent a link to you for a piet for sale, and was wondering if yourclub ever found one. glad you did!--------Jon JonesIronton, MORead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 20:04:40 +0000 (UTC)

Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol Aircamper in Scotland

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 5:19 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Jeff Boatright"
Thank you all! Unfortunately I will not make it to Broadhead this year. Howeveri would love to meet the US Pietenpol fraternity in the future.Link attached of my (second) take off and (very high approach and long) landingfilmed with my head-mounted GoPro. http://youtu.be/saKQsw7dsGoAll the bestIain.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol Aircamper in Scotland

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 5:27 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: Ray Krause
Great flight and video, Iain. Congratulations!Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Re: Pietenpol-List: where are the new guys/gals??

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 4:53 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Charles N. Campbell"
Bill, thanks for the tip. I've since found his pictures on Westcoastpiet and receivedan email from Mr. Princell. Looks like he's doing a beautiful job on therestoration.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 10:02:33 -0400Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: where are the new guys/gals??

Pietenpol-List: Re: where are the new guys/gals??

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 9:38 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "womenfly2"
I read a previous thread about (where are the new builders) ? Got me to thinking.I am a new builder, and though I will soon hit the big 60 in age I don'tfeel like an old person(except early in the morning). I too wish we had alot of young builders but as stated before there are lots of obsticles such asmoney time and life in general. And a young person doesn't have the patienceit takes to pull this thing off for the most part. I had wanted to build anairplane for years, I knew I wanted to build a pietenpol for most of those years...I did buy plans for a parasol wing ultralight when I was in my 30s . Itused a Onan engine, and though it could have been built in one tenth of the timeof a pietenpol it still seemed way too complex for me. Now as I begin tosee a finish line in the distant I must say this is one of the greatest thingsI have ever attempted . I wish I had started a year earlier, I could have beenflying now.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: where are the new guys/gals??

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 6:38 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: Steven Dortch
As with anything in life you first must have the drive to want to do it. If youdo then there is the money part, a place to build, help and knowledge. Then youneed to remove yourself from society for a few years as you disappear in toyour work cave each day and weekends.For a teenager this is far from the life they want to live. In the twenties, a9 to 5 job, one gets married, then children and all your money is never enoughjust for that, let alone your time and building an airplane still just remainsa dream.Its not until your mid 40's or early 50's building a plane is a reality. You havegained knowledge, some independence, have some free money and enjoy your owefree time.So, I think the answer is not that young adults build a plane early in their lifebut that we, the ones that can, keep their dream going until the time theytoo can build a plane and pass this great experience on to the next generationas we are doing.So take a kid flying and find one to mentor, that is the best way to pass on whatwe love, flying and building.Just my 2 worth.WF2--------Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: where are the new guys/gals??

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 7:11 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: "THOMAS.233327"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: where are the new guys/gals??Well put Keri-AnnAll young people want corvettes or a HarleyDavidson. But have you noticedthat most people driving corvettes or riding hogs have gray (or no) Hair?That is when they can afford it.I have several young friends and they are interested in flying, but theinvestment is simply too much for them.Blue Skies,Steve DBTW Keri-ann my wife's grandmother's name was America Ann. A rather unusualand neat name.On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 6:38 AM, womenfly2 wrote:>>> As with anything in life you first must have the drive to want to do it.> If you do then there is the money part, a place to build, help and> knowledge. Then you need to remove yourself from society for a few years as> you disappear in to your work cave each day and weekends.>> For a teenager this is far from the life they want to live. In the> twenties, a 9 to 5 job, one gets married, then children and all your money> is never enough just for that, let alone your time and building an airplane> still just remains a dream.>> Its not until your mid 40's or early 50's building a plane is a reality.> You have gained knowledge, some independence, have some free money and> enjoy your owe free time.>> So, I think the answer is not that young adults build a plane early in> their life but that we, the ones that can, keep their dream going until the> time they too can build a plane and pass this great experience on to the> next generation as we are doing.>> So take a kid flying and find one to mentor, that is the best way to pass> on what we love, flying and building.>> Just my 2=C2=A2 worth.> WF2>> -------->>> Read this topic online here:>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ======>>-- Blue Skies,Steve D________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 20:06:55 +0000 (UTC)

Re: Pietenpol-List: Dick N

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 7:48 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: Jack
Hi all,I've just returned from a trip to find the sad news about Dick. He was agreat guy and I will miss him. After my plane's off-airport incident, itwas Dick who diverted on his way to Sun N Fun to get my wings and bring themalong so they could be rebuild down there at the wood shop. Turned out theyneeded to be completely torn down and rebuilt due to some weird glue issues,but he couldn't have been more gracious and selfless in his instant offer tohelp (all the guys were awesome).He will be missed!Douwe________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Dick N

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 6:05 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: danhelsper(at)aol.com
Douwe, agreed he will be missed. I had a thought and would appreciate any input. Many of you have attended my Brat lunch at Brodhead. I'm thinking this year we could have a "donation jar" for those that would like to contribute something to recognize Dick or assistance for his family in some way. Your thoughts?Sent from my iPadJack Textor> On Jun 13, 2015, at 7:48 PM, "Douwe Blumberg" wrote:> > Hi all,> > I=99ve just returned from a trip to find the sad news about Dick. He was a great guy and I will miss him. After my plane=99s off-airport incident, it was Dick who diverted on his way to Sun N Fun to get my wings and bring them along so they could be rebuild down there at the wood shop. Turned out they needed to be completely torn down and rebuilt due to some weird glue issues, but he couldn=99t have been more gracious and selfless in his instant offer to help (all the guys were awesome).> > He will be missed!> > Douwe> > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D> ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 08:16:51 -0400

Re: Pietenpol-List: Dick N

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 7:45 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: danhelsper(at)aol.com

Pietenpol-List: Re: where are the new guys/gals??

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 9:40 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "David McBride"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GCFWKB ... ClifHandle every Stressful situation like a dog.If you can't eat it or play with it,Piss on it and walk away.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: where are the new guys/gals??

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 10:09 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: Ray Krause
.......busy..........quietly working in the shop....... every night.--------David McBride Rochester, NY dmcb84(at)hotmail.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Re:Pietenpol-List: where are the new guys/gals??

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:39 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: Marcus Zechini
Hey all,During a recent long drive I got to thinking about the future of the Pietenpolmarque with some concern. I then looked through all my newsletter back issuesand realized just how many of our currently flying fleet were began in the lateeighties and early nineties.It got me to thinking, what was happening during those years that stimulated somuch interest and building that isnt happening now?. Maybe Im wrong, but Justthink of all the projects started around then and it is quite remarkable. Idlove others input, especially those who got into it then, but I came to two differentpossibilities.1. There was a strong and active Pietenpol club that really helped generate interestin the plane2. People had more expendable resources and werent lured away from a plans builtplane by quick-build/snap together kits.3. All of the above?I look around at Brodhead, and the projects being worked on and ask myself, whereare the young people building and with a few exceptions, there arent many.As always, the loss of the next generation bodes ill for the future if we cantchange things. Which led me to my next question (s)1. What can we do corporately and individually to increase Pietenpol awarenessin the homebuilding community?Thoughts?Douwe________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 15:04:46 -0400Subject: Re:Pietenpol-List: where are the new guys/gals??

Pietenpol-List: Ray Stitts Gone West

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:39 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
>>> Hey all,>> During a recent long drive I got to thinking about the future of the> Pietenpol =9Cmarque=9D with some concern. I then looked through all my> newsletter back issues and realized just how many of our currently flying> fleet were began in the late eighties and early nineties.>> It got me to thinking, =9Cwhat was happening during those years that> stimulated so much interest and building that isn=99t happening now?=9D. Maybe> I=99m wrong, but Just think of all the projects started around then and it is> quite remarkable. I=99d love other=99s input, especially those who got into it> then, but I came to two different possibilities.>> 1. There was a strong and active Pietenpol club that really helped> generate interest in the plane> 2. People had more expendable resources and weren=99t lured away from> a =9Cplans built plane=9D by =9Cquick-build/snap together=9D kits.> 3. All of the above?>> I look around at Brodhead, and the projects being worked on and ask> myself, =9Cwhere are the young people building=9D and with a few exceptions,> there aren=99t many. As always, the loss of the next generation bodes ill> for the future if we can=99t change things. Which led me to my next question> (s)>> 1. What can we do corporately and individually to increase> =9CPietenpol awareness=9D in the homebuilding community?>>> Thoughts?>> Douwe>>============================================>>________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Ray Stitts Gone West

>> Pietenpol-List: where are the new guys/gals??

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:39 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
>>>>>> Hey all,>>>> During a recent long drive I got to thinking about the future of the>> Pietenpol =9Cmarque=9D with some concern. I then looked through all my>> newsletter back issues and realized just how many of our currently flying>> fleet were began in the late eighties and early nineties.>>>> It got me to thinking, =9Cwhat was happening during those years that>> stimulated so much interest and building that isn=99t happening now?=9D. Maybe>> I=99m wrong, but Just think of all the projects started around then and it is>> quite remarkable. I=99d love other=99s input, especially those who got into it>> then, but I came to two different possibilities.>>>> 1. There was a strong and active Pietenpol club that really helped>> generate interest in the plane>> 2. People had more expendable resources and weren=99t lured away from>> a =9Cplans built plane=9D by =9Cquick-build/snap together=9D kits.>> 3. All of the above?>>>> I look around at Brodhead, and the projects being worked on and ask>> myself, =9Cwhere are the young people building=9D and with a few exceptions,>> there aren=99t many. As always, the loss of the next generation bodes ill>> for the future if we can=99t change things. Which led me to my next question>> (s)>>>> 1. What can we do corporately and individually to increase>> =9CPietenpol awareness=9D in the homebuilding community?>>>>>> Thoughts?>>>> Douwe>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ==========>> br> enpol-List" target="_blank">>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List>> ==========>> FORUMS ->> _blank">http://forums.matronics.com>> ==========>> b Site ->> -Matt Dralle, List Admin.>> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution>> ==========>>>>>>>>>> No virus found in this message.> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> 06/11/15>>> --> Charles Burkholder> Visit my blog @ http://missionmechfund.blogspot.ca/>> *>===========.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List>======================om/contribution>===========>> *>>________________________________________________________________________________

Pietenpol-List: where are the new guys/gals??

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:39 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Douwe Blumberg"
Hey all, During a recent long drive I got to thinking about the future of the Pietenpol =9Cmarque=9D with some concern. I then looked through all my newsletter back issues and realized just how many of our currently flying fleet were began in the late eighties and early nineties. It got me to thinking, =9Cwhat was happening during those years that stimulated so much interest and building that isn=99t happening now?=9D. Maybe I=99m wrong, but Just think of all the projects started around then and it is quite remarkable. I=99d love other=99s input, especially those who got into it then, but I came to two different possibilities. 1. There was a strong and active Pietenpol club that really helped generate interest in the plane 2. People had more expendable resources and weren=99t lured away from a =9Cplans built plane=9D by =9Cquick-build/snap together=9D kits. 3. All of the above? I look around at Brodhead, and the projects being worked on and ask myself, =9Cwhere are the young people building=9D and with a few exceptions, there aren=99t many. As always, the loss of the next generation bodes ill for the future if we can=99t change things. Which led me to my next question (s) 1. What can we do corporately and individually to increase =9CPietenpol awareness=9D in the homebuilding community? Thoughts? Douwe =========== br> enpol-List" target="_blank"> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List =========== FORUMS - _blank"> http://forums.matronics.com =========== b Site - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. target="_blank"> http://www.matronics.com/contribution =========== No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 06/11/15 -- Charles BurkholderVisit my blog @ http://missionmechfund.blogspot.ca/ " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Piet ... ntribution === ________________________________________________________________________________