Original Posted By: "Warren D. Shoun"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mixing Glue>Randy:> Go to www.aircraft-spruce.com> Then go to On Line Catalogue> Then go to Search and type in glue gun> What will come up is a twin cartridge glue gun with a spiral mixing tipthat>you can cut to your desired fineness and delivers very precise full mixed1:1>blended air-free epoxy.> This product is manufactured by Chem Tech of P. O. Box 70148, SeattleWA>98107-0148 and they can be reached at (206) 783-2243 or fax at (206)782-4426.> The only waste is what is in the mixer tubes, which do cost $1.20 eachand>are discarded upon finished set-up. This has been beneficial in that withmy>Jewish Mother and Scottish Father, I make certain that I have a clearly setup>project....of course I goofed off with the first couple of mixer tubes andglued>a weird mix of things around my shop testing both the glue gun and theT-88.>Happy with both, as there is no open mess to get stuck in.> Hope this helps.>Best regards,>Warren>>________________________________________________________________________________
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> Re: Mixing Glue
Original Posted By: Phil Peck
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mixing Glue>Warren:>>I saw that thing in the catalog. I assume the epoxy sets up in the mixing>tube when it sets overnight or between glue ups. At $1.20 per glue mix and>hundreds of glue mixes over the building life of the airplane I would spend>a lot of dollars. Or am I missing something? You mention that they are>discarded 'upon finished set-up', a term that I don't understand, but am>assuming means the epoxy setting up.>>Also, how much pressure does it take to force the epoxy through the mixing>matrix at cooler temperatures. We are finally enjoying some warm weather>here, but quite often, even in the summer, I have to glue with temperatures>in the mid 50s. It sometimes takes a bit of strength to get the T-88 out of>the container through the dispenser spout, let alone forcing it through a>long small hole.>>-----Original Message----->From: Warren D. Shoun >To: Pietenpol Discussion >Date: Friday, July 24, 1998 10:16 PM>Subject: Re: Mixing Glue>>>>Randy:>> Go to www.aircraft-spruce.com>> Then go to On Line Catalogue>> Then go to Search and type in glue gun>> What will come up is a twin cartridge glue gun with a spiral mixingtip>that>>you can cut to your desired fineness and delivers very precise full mixed>1:1>>blended air-free epoxy.>> This product is manufactured by Chem Tech of P. O. Box 70148, Seattle>WA>>98107-0148 and they can be reached at (206) 783-2243 or fax at (206)>782-4426.>> The only waste is what is in the mixer tubes, which do cost $1.20 each>and>>are discarded upon finished set-up. This has been beneficial in that with>my>>Jewish Mother and Scottish Father, I make certain that I have a clearlyset>up>>project....of course I goofed off with the first couple of mixer tubes and>glued>>a weird mix of things around my shop testing both the glue gun and the>T-88.>>Happy with both, as there is no open mess to get stuck in.>> Hope this helps.>>Best regards,>>Warren>>>>>>________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mixing Glue>Warren:>>I saw that thing in the catalog. I assume the epoxy sets up in the mixing>tube when it sets overnight or between glue ups. At $1.20 per glue mix and>hundreds of glue mixes over the building life of the airplane I would spend>a lot of dollars. Or am I missing something? You mention that they are>discarded 'upon finished set-up', a term that I don't understand, but am>assuming means the epoxy setting up.>>Also, how much pressure does it take to force the epoxy through the mixing>matrix at cooler temperatures. We are finally enjoying some warm weather>here, but quite often, even in the summer, I have to glue with temperatures>in the mid 50s. It sometimes takes a bit of strength to get the T-88 out of>the container through the dispenser spout, let alone forcing it through a>long small hole.>>-----Original Message----->From: Warren D. Shoun >To: Pietenpol Discussion >Date: Friday, July 24, 1998 10:16 PM>Subject: Re: Mixing Glue>>>>Randy:>> Go to www.aircraft-spruce.com>> Then go to On Line Catalogue>> Then go to Search and type in glue gun>> What will come up is a twin cartridge glue gun with a spiral mixingtip>that>>you can cut to your desired fineness and delivers very precise full mixed>1:1>>blended air-free epoxy.>> This product is manufactured by Chem Tech of P. O. Box 70148, Seattle>WA>>98107-0148 and they can be reached at (206) 783-2243 or fax at (206)>782-4426.>> The only waste is what is in the mixer tubes, which do cost $1.20 each>and>>are discarded upon finished set-up. This has been beneficial in that with>my>>Jewish Mother and Scottish Father, I make certain that I have a clearlyset>up>>project....of course I goofed off with the first couple of mixer tubes and>glued>>a weird mix of things around my shop testing both the glue gun and the>T-88.>>Happy with both, as there is no open mess to get stuck in.>> Hope this helps.>>Best regards,>>Warren>>>>>>________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Mixing Glue
Original Posted By: "Warren D. Shoun"
I noticed on the Plane Crazy final segment where they were building theFisher biplane that when they mixed the glue they just turned both bottlesupside down and squeezed. They appeared to be using T-88.How do other people using T-88 measure their glue. I have been loading itinto syringes and using them to measure it by volume but I find that it is amessy process. I am currently searching for an inexpensive scale so I canmeasure it that way.How accurate does this need to be? Can I just squeeze out 2 piles thatappear to be equal in volume and know that it is good enough? How do otherpeople do it?Thanks for the answers.Randy StockbergerA Pietenpol Rib and Tail builder in Corvallis OR.________________________________________________________________________________
I noticed on the Plane Crazy final segment where they were building theFisher biplane that when they mixed the glue they just turned both bottlesupside down and squeezed. They appeared to be using T-88.How do other people using T-88 measure their glue. I have been loading itinto syringes and using them to measure it by volume but I find that it is amessy process. I am currently searching for an inexpensive scale so I canmeasure it that way.How accurate does this need to be? Can I just squeeze out 2 piles thatappear to be equal in volume and know that it is good enough? How do otherpeople do it?Thanks for the answers.Randy StockbergerA Pietenpol Rib and Tail builder in Corvallis OR.________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: Randy Stockberger
Randy: Go to www.aircraft-spruce.com Then go to On Line Catalogue Then go to Search and type in glue gun What will come up is a twin cartridge glue gun with a spiral mixing tip thatyou can cut to your desired fineness and delivers very precise full mixed 1:1blended air-free epoxy. This product is manufactured by Chem Tech of P. O. Box 70148, Seattle WA98107-0148 and they can be reached at (206) 783-2243 or fax at (206) 782-4426. The only waste is what is in the mixer tubes, which do cost $1.20 each andare discarded upon finished set-up. This has been beneficial in that with myJewish Mother and Scottish Father, I make certain that I have a clearly set upproject....of course I goofed off with the first couple of mixer tubes and glueda weird mix of things around my shop testing both the glue gun and the T-88.Happy with both, as there is no open mess to get stuck in. Hope this helps.Best regards,Warren________________________________________________________________________________
Randy: Go to www.aircraft-spruce.com Then go to On Line Catalogue Then go to Search and type in glue gun What will come up is a twin cartridge glue gun with a spiral mixing tip thatyou can cut to your desired fineness and delivers very precise full mixed 1:1blended air-free epoxy. This product is manufactured by Chem Tech of P. O. Box 70148, Seattle WA98107-0148 and they can be reached at (206) 783-2243 or fax at (206) 782-4426. The only waste is what is in the mixer tubes, which do cost $1.20 each andare discarded upon finished set-up. This has been beneficial in that with myJewish Mother and Scottish Father, I make certain that I have a clearly set upproject....of course I goofed off with the first couple of mixer tubes and glueda weird mix of things around my shop testing both the glue gun and the T-88.Happy with both, as there is no open mess to get stuck in. Hope this helps.Best regards,Warren________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: Warren D. Shoun
Warren:I saw that thing in the catalog. I assume the epoxy sets up in the mixingtube when it sets overnight or between glue ups. At $1.20 per glue mix andhundreds of glue mixes over the building life of the airplane I would spenda lot of dollars. Or am I missing something? You mention that they arediscarded 'upon finished set-up', a term that I don't understand, but amassuming means the epoxy setting up.Also, how much pressure does it take to force the epoxy through the mixingmatrix at cooler temperatures. We are finally enjoying some warm weatherhere, but quite often, even in the summer, I have to glue with temperaturesin the mid 50s. It sometimes takes a bit of strength to get the T-88 out ofthe container through the dispenser spout, let alone forcing it through along small hole.-----Original Message-----
Warren:I saw that thing in the catalog. I assume the epoxy sets up in the mixingtube when it sets overnight or between glue ups. At $1.20 per glue mix andhundreds of glue mixes over the building life of the airplane I would spenda lot of dollars. Or am I missing something? You mention that they arediscarded 'upon finished set-up', a term that I don't understand, but amassuming means the epoxy setting up.Also, how much pressure does it take to force the epoxy through the mixingmatrix at cooler temperatures. We are finally enjoying some warm weatherhere, but quite often, even in the summer, I have to glue with temperaturesin the mid 50s. It sometimes takes a bit of strength to get the T-88 out ofthe container through the dispenser spout, let alone forcing it through along small hole.-----Original Message-----
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Original Posted By: baileys(at)ktis.net (Robert M. Bailey)
Randy: Yes the T-88 does set up in the mixing tube once the 2 parts aremixed...hence my comment about waiting until I have a REAL set up complete.For me, this has frankly been a forced planning blessing in my constructionplanning. With the leverage on the handle like a caulking gun, I have not experiencedany major noticeable problems with the T-88. I imagine it could be a realserious problem with some of the thicker epoxy mixes that I have seen and Iwould not try this application method with them.Best Regards,Warren________________________________________________________________________________
Randy: Yes the T-88 does set up in the mixing tube once the 2 parts aremixed...hence my comment about waiting until I have a REAL set up complete.For me, this has frankly been a forced planning blessing in my constructionplanning. With the leverage on the handle like a caulking gun, I have not experiencedany major noticeable problems with the T-88. I imagine it could be a realserious problem with some of the thicker epoxy mixes that I have seen and Iwould not try this application method with them.Best Regards,Warren________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: Randy Stockberger
To mix glue in cool temperatures I used to get an old coffee can about halffull of water. I'd sit the glue bottles in the water and heat it up on anold Coleman stove. After letting the glue bottles sit in the warm/hot watera little they would pour easily.John-----Original Message-----
To mix glue in cool temperatures I used to get an old coffee can about halffull of water. I'd sit the glue bottles in the water and heat it up on anold Coleman stove. After letting the glue bottles sit in the warm/hot watera little they would pour easily.John-----Original Message-----
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Original Posted By: Joe & Marian Beck
Randy -Doug Bryant and I have been mixing T-88 by the "two similar globs" method for some time now (3 projects, 1 flying). Seems perfectly adequate. Ambient temp. makes for differing viscosities A vs. B, of course, so watch the volumes. The idea of medicine cups you can pitch sounds great for smaller jobs, especially rib construction.CJ BeckWichita, KS________________________________________________________________________________
Randy -Doug Bryant and I have been mixing T-88 by the "two similar globs" method for some time now (3 projects, 1 flying). Seems perfectly adequate. Ambient temp. makes for differing viscosities A vs. B, of course, so watch the volumes. The idea of medicine cups you can pitch sounds great for smaller jobs, especially rib construction.CJ BeckWichita, KS________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: Brent Reed
Hey guys, Go to the grocery store and get two sets of measuring spoons. This works great. All you have to do is wipe them out when your done and youare ready for the next glue up job. In addition, get some nitrile disposiblegloves to protect your hands from the t-88. It is worth the eight to elevendollars. It works better than trying to scrub the glue off of your hands. -=RON=-________________________________________________________________________________
Hey guys, Go to the grocery store and get two sets of measuring spoons. This works great. All you have to do is wipe them out when your done and youare ready for the next glue up job. In addition, get some nitrile disposiblegloves to protect your hands from the t-88. It is worth the eight to elevendollars. It works better than trying to scrub the glue off of your hands. -=RON=-________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: Greg Yotz
-I to am doing my glue ups using t-88. And the best thing that I have found totake that glue off my hands is a bottle of rubbing alcohol from the local grocerystore, and an old cotton rag.On Thu, 30 Jul 1998 23:18:46 PTNPOL wrote:>Hey guys,> Go to the grocery store and get two sets of measuring spoons. This >works great. All you have to do is wipe them out when your done and you>are ready for the next glue up job. In addition, get some nitrile disposible>gloves to protect your hands from the t-88. It is worth the eight to eleven>dollars. It works better than trying to scrub the glue off of your hands.> > -=RON=->http://www.mailexcite.com________________________________________________________________________________
-I to am doing my glue ups using t-88. And the best thing that I have found totake that glue off my hands is a bottle of rubbing alcohol from the local grocerystore, and an old cotton rag.On Thu, 30 Jul 1998 23:18:46 PTNPOL wrote:>Hey guys,> Go to the grocery store and get two sets of measuring spoons. This >works great. All you have to do is wipe them out when your done and you>are ready for the next glue up job. In addition, get some nitrile disposible>gloves to protect your hands from the t-88. It is worth the eight to eleven>dollars. It works better than trying to scrub the glue off of your hands.> > -=RON=->http://www.mailexcite.com________________________________________________________________________________