Original Posted By: pietworks
Subject: Pietenpol-List: One piece wing versus three>Just out of curiosity, I have seen a lot of>regrets on here, people who had the 3 piece>wishing they had built the one and a few one>piecers wishing they built the three. Is there>anybody happy with what they built?>I am curious....>>________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: One piece wing versus three
Pietenpol-List: One piece wing versus three
Original Posted By: Earl Myers
Just out of curiosity, I have seen a lot ofregrets on here, people who had the 3 piecewishing they had built the one and a few onepiecers wishing they built the three. Is thereanybody happy with what they built?I am curious....________________________________________________________________________________
Just out of curiosity, I have seen a lot ofregrets on here, people who had the 3 piecewishing they had built the one and a few onepiecers wishing they built the three. Is thereanybody happy with what they built?I am curious....________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: One piece wing versus three
Original Posted By: Bill Talbert
I built a single piece wing along with a turn around structure so I didn'thave to rely on anyone to help me turn the beast. I also have another planewith a 28' single wing, no regrets either way..........Earl Myers-----Original Message-----
I built a single piece wing along with a turn around structure so I didn'thave to rely on anyone to help me turn the beast. I also have another planewith a 28' single wing, no regrets either way..........Earl Myers-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: One piece wing versus three
Original Posted By:>> Bill Talbert
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: One piece wing versus three>how did you configure your turn around construction? I>will be suspending it to the ceiling and was hoping I>could come up with a design to flip it while hanging>from cables.>>--- Earl Myers wrote:>> I built a single piece wing along with a turn around>> structure so I didn't>> have to rely on anyone to help me turn the beast. I>> also have another plane>> with a 28' single wing, no regrets either>> way..........>> Earl Myers>> -----Original Message-----
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: One piece wing versus three>how did you configure your turn around construction? I>will be suspending it to the ceiling and was hoping I>could come up with a design to flip it while hanging>from cables.>>--- Earl Myers wrote:>> I built a single piece wing along with a turn around>> structure so I didn't>> have to rely on anyone to help me turn the beast. I>> also have another plane>> with a 28' single wing, no regrets either>> way..........>> Earl Myers>> -----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: One piece wing versus three
Original Posted By: Gary Gower
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: One piece wing versus three>I have the 3 piece wing and love it. If you have to transport the plane,>and you will, it makes life a lot easier. If you have a 16 foot trailer>then 3 piece is great. If you have a 30 foot trailer then you can goeither>way. I have 55 hours on mine, but it still has more hours on a trailerthan>in the air.>Copinfo(at)ix.Netcom.Com>Tim Cunningham>Des Moines, Iowa (515) 237-1510>>>>Just out of curiosity, I have seen a lot of>>regrets on here, people who had the 3 piece>>wishing they had built the one and a few one>>piecers wishing they built the three. Is there>>anybody happy with what they built?>>I am curious....>>>>________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: One piece wing versus three>I have the 3 piece wing and love it. If you have to transport the plane,>and you will, it makes life a lot easier. If you have a 16 foot trailer>then 3 piece is great. If you have a 30 foot trailer then you can goeither>way. I have 55 hours on mine, but it still has more hours on a trailerthan>in the air.>Copinfo(at)ix.Netcom.Com>Tim Cunningham>Des Moines, Iowa (515) 237-1510>>>>Just out of curiosity, I have seen a lot of>>regrets on here, people who had the 3 piece>>wishing they had built the one and a few one>>piecers wishing they built the three. Is there>>anybody happy with what they built?>>I am curious....>>>>________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: One piece wing versus three
Original Posted By:> Bill Talbert
how did you configure your turn around construction? Iwill be suspending it to the ceiling and was hoping Icould come up with a design to flip it while hangingfrom cables.--- Earl Myers wrote:> I built a single piece wing along with a turn around> structure so I didn't> have to rely on anyone to help me turn the beast. I> also have another plane> with a 28' single wing, no regrets either> way..........> Earl Myers> -----Original Message-----
how did you configure your turn around construction? Iwill be suspending it to the ceiling and was hoping Icould come up with a design to flip it while hangingfrom cables.--- Earl Myers wrote:> I built a single piece wing along with a turn around> structure so I didn't> have to rely on anyone to help me turn the beast. I> also have another plane> with a 28' single wing, no regrets either> way..........> Earl Myers> -----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: RE: One piece wing versus three
Original Posted By:> Bill Talbert [SMTP:wtalbert(at)flash.net]
Hi Bill,I built the three piece and am pretty happy with it. The biggest advantagefor me is that the centersection can be redesigned to achieve dfferentobjectives easier than the whole wing can be. For example, long after wingconstruction had started, I decided that I would prefer to have a circularcutout in the centersection to provide easier cockpit access and improvedvisibility. Easily done since the centersection had not been built yet. Ialso wanted more than 10 gallon fuel capcaity. So I made my centersection6" wider and picked up a couple of gallons.The obvious advantage to the 3-piece is it requires less space to build. Italso is easier to transport to the airport for final assembly. The onepiece is undoubtedly lighter, but requires a good scarf joint in the spars.The way the plans call out the scarf is not the best way to do it. If youdo it the way the plans call out, I would add a plywood doubler on each sideof the spar to cover the scarf.> -----Original Message-----
Hi Bill,I built the three piece and am pretty happy with it. The biggest advantagefor me is that the centersection can be redesigned to achieve dfferentobjectives easier than the whole wing can be. For example, long after wingconstruction had started, I decided that I would prefer to have a circularcutout in the centersection to provide easier cockpit access and improvedvisibility. Easily done since the centersection had not been built yet. Ialso wanted more than 10 gallon fuel capcaity. So I made my centersection6" wider and picked up a couple of gallons.The obvious advantage to the 3-piece is it requires less space to build. Italso is easier to transport to the airport for final assembly. The onepiece is undoubtedly lighter, but requires a good scarf joint in the spars.The way the plans call out the scarf is not the best way to do it. If youdo it the way the plans call out, I would add a plywood doubler on each sideof the spar to cover the scarf.> -----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: One piece wing versus three
Original Posted By: Earl Myers
I have the 3 piece wing and love it. If you have to transport the plane,and you will, it makes life a lot easier. If you have a 16 foot trailerthen 3 piece is great. If you have a 30 foot trailer then you can go eitherway. I have 55 hours on mine, but it still has more hours on a trailer thanin the air.Copinfo(at)ix.Netcom.ComTim CunninghamDes Moines, Iowa (515) 237-1510>Just out of curiosity, I have seen a lot of>regrets on here, people who had the 3 piece>wishing they had built the one and a few one>piecers wishing they built the three. Is there>anybody happy with what they built?>I am curious....>________________________________________________________________________________
I have the 3 piece wing and love it. If you have to transport the plane,and you will, it makes life a lot easier. If you have a 16 foot trailerthen 3 piece is great. If you have a 30 foot trailer then you can go eitherway. I have 55 hours on mine, but it still has more hours on a trailer thanin the air.Copinfo(at)ix.Netcom.ComTim CunninghamDes Moines, Iowa (515) 237-1510>Just out of curiosity, I have seen a lot of>regrets on here, people who had the 3 piece>wishing they had built the one and a few one>piecers wishing they built the three. Is there>anybody happy with what they built?>I am curious....>________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: One piece wing versus three
Original Posted By: del magsam
Del; Look in this month's EAA Sport Aviation Magazine in the Knight Twisterarticle. There is a roll over "gadget" there. In lieu of that, my turnoverthing is a big letter "C" frame of plywood sides built about 2' apart,"struts" hanging down from the opening attaching to the center section tabsto hold the wing. This "C" shaped frame rests on a 2x4 framework on thefloor that has rollers (long 1"dia by 12" long), 2 per side of the "C" forthe edges of the unit to roll on. There are 4 castors under the whole thingto move along the floor. Del, better yet, give me your snail address offlineto me and I will send you some pictures. A picture is worth a thousandwords!!!Earl Myers-----Original Message-----
Del; Look in this month's EAA Sport Aviation Magazine in the Knight Twisterarticle. There is a roll over "gadget" there. In lieu of that, my turnoverthing is a big letter "C" frame of plywood sides built about 2' apart,"struts" hanging down from the opening attaching to the center section tabsto hold the wing. This "C" shaped frame rests on a 2x4 framework on thefloor that has rollers (long 1"dia by 12" long), 2 per side of the "C" forthe edges of the unit to roll on. There are 4 castors under the whole thingto move along the floor. Del, better yet, give me your snail address offlineto me and I will send you some pictures. A picture is worth a thousandwords!!!Earl Myers-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: One piece wing versus three
Original Posted By: Copinfo
I chose the one piece wing on my Scout because of the weight savings andeasier rigging. There are more drawbacks to the one piece wing however. Ihad to build a special trailer (a set of wheels/axle on a LONG tongue) tomove it, build a special wing turnover rig so I could cover it/work on italone and make sure that the workshop(s) are big enough. I also builtjackable "Tees" for the beast to sit on. I then could jack up the tees androll the fuselage under it. I also built special roll around wing sadles forit too while in storage. Looking back on all this, there is a lot of"putzing" around just to save 15# of wing weight. AND, as someone pointedout here, the odd scarf joint kinda made me nervous so i did the splice withbirch ply doublers which nibbled into that 15# savings...........doing itagain I would still do a one piece wing only because I had a shop bigenough...which is now filled up with all the extra gadgets needed to buildthe 1 piece so there is no room for the 1 piece wing so I have to build the3 piece next time to move around all the stuff stored for the 1 piece (Catch22). I do have another plane in there that has a ...one piece wing that isat the cover stage....BUILD THE 3 PIECE WING AND SLEEP AT NIGHT!Earl Myers-----Original Message-----
I chose the one piece wing on my Scout because of the weight savings andeasier rigging. There are more drawbacks to the one piece wing however. Ihad to build a special trailer (a set of wheels/axle on a LONG tongue) tomove it, build a special wing turnover rig so I could cover it/work on italone and make sure that the workshop(s) are big enough. I also builtjackable "Tees" for the beast to sit on. I then could jack up the tees androll the fuselage under it. I also built special roll around wing sadles forit too while in storage. Looking back on all this, there is a lot of"putzing" around just to save 15# of wing weight. AND, as someone pointedout here, the odd scarf joint kinda made me nervous so i did the splice withbirch ply doublers which nibbled into that 15# savings...........doing itagain I would still do a one piece wing only because I had a shop bigenough...which is now filled up with all the extra gadgets needed to buildthe 1 piece so there is no room for the 1 piece wing so I have to build the3 piece next time to move around all the stuff stored for the 1 piece (Catch22). I do have another plane in there that has a ...one piece wing that isat the cover stage....BUILD THE 3 PIECE WING AND SLEEP AT NIGHT!Earl Myers-----Original Message-----
> One piece wing versus three
Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips (EUS)"
> Subject: One piece wing versus three> > > >Just out of curiosity, I have seen a lot of> >regrets on here, people who had the 3 piece> >wishing they had built the one and a few one> >piecers wishing they built the three. Is there> >anybody happy with what they built?> >I am curious....> >> >> > =====________________________________________________________________________________
> Subject: One piece wing versus three> > > >Just out of curiosity, I have seen a lot of> >regrets on here, people who had the 3 piece> >wishing they had built the one and a few one> >piecers wishing they built the three. Is there> >anybody happy with what they built?> >I am curious....> >> >> > =====________________________________________________________________________________
>> One piece wing versus three
Original Posted By: Earl Myers
>> Subject: One piece wing versus three>>>>>> >Just out of curiosity, I have seen a lot of>> >regrets on here, people who had the 3 piece>> >wishing they had built the one and a few one>> >piecers wishing they built the three. Is there>> >anybody happy with what they built?>> >I am curious....>> >>> >>>>>>>>=====>>________________________________________________________________________________
>> Subject: One piece wing versus three>>>>>> >Just out of curiosity, I have seen a lot of>> >regrets on here, people who had the 3 piece>> >wishing they had built the one and a few one>> >piecers wishing they built the three. Is there>> >anybody happy with what they built?>> >I am curious....>> >>> >>>>>>>>=====>>________________________________________________________________________________