Pietenpol-List: Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, Caliente
Pietenpol-List: Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, Caliente
Original Posted By: "jarheadpilot82"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, Caliente CAGuys-I used to get some really cool hand-written letters and photos from DanielCork (a former TWA Lockheed Constellation pilot) who built a really neat looking Pietenpolbut lost touch with him and I presume he may have passed but hopefully not and maybeyou all know of what happened to his Piet or if he ever flew it. I know he had a son whowas helping him and was/ is a pilot too so perhaps the son has the airplane or is flyingit. Any updates or info on Dan and his son would be greatly appreciated.Michael Cuy________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, CalienteCA
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, Caliente CAGuys-I used to get some really cool hand-written letters and photos from DanielCork (a former TWA Lockheed Constellation pilot) who built a really neat looking Pietenpolbut lost touch with him and I presume he may have passed but hopefully not and maybeyou all know of what happened to his Piet or if he ever flew it. I know he had a son whowas helping him and was/ is a pilot too so perhaps the son has the airplane or is flyingit. Any updates or info on Dan and his son would be greatly appreciated.Michael Cuy________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, CalienteCA
Pietenpol-List: Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, Caliente
Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
Michael,I just did a quick search on the FAA Registry and there are no Pietenpols registeredto a last name Cork. There is a Gerald D Cork that owns a C172 in PA anda Dennis R Cork that owns several Cessnas in AK. Wish I had better news. I would love to have met him- any pilot that flew Connieswould be great to talk to!--------Semper Fi,TerryRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, CalienteCA
Michael,I just did a quick search on the FAA Registry and there are no Pietenpols registeredto a last name Cork. There is a Gerald D Cork that owns a C172 in PA anda Dennis R Cork that owns several Cessnas in AK. Wish I had better news. I would love to have met him- any pilot that flew Connieswould be great to talk to!--------Semper Fi,TerryRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, CalienteCA
Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]"
Hi Mike,I used to see Dan a lot. He used to come to my Piet gatherings in Corona. Hedid finish the Piet. He had flown it a few times then ground looped it, foldedup one of the wire wheels and got the wing and prop. After that he gave itto his son in Oklahoma. I don't know if it ever got rebuilt. Dan also had aTripacer and kept it at Kernville airport here in CA. Here is the last numberI had for him if you would like to give him a ring. 661-867-2704. I haven'ttalked to him in several years now. Let me know what you find out.His Piet even had a wine barrel with a tapper built into it. It was very creative.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Hi Mike,I used to see Dan a lot. He used to come to my Piet gatherings in Corona. Hedid finish the Piet. He had flown it a few times then ground looped it, foldedup one of the wire wheels and got the wing and prop. After that he gave itto his son in Oklahoma. I don't know if it ever got rebuilt. Dan also had aTripacer and kept it at Kernville airport here in CA. Here is the last numberI had for him if you would like to give him a ring. 661-867-2704. I haven'ttalked to him in several years now. Let me know what you find out.His Piet even had a wine barrel with a tapper built into it. It was very creative.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, Caliente
Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
I guess I should try and call too. He's a great man. Now I feel bad for not callingsooner. Shame on me.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, CalienteCA
I guess I should try and call too. He's a great man. Now I feel bad for not callingsooner. Shame on me.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, CalienteCA
Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]"
Great sleuthing.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Great sleuthing.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, Caliente
Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
Yep, it did get rebuilt and it flies regularly. N541K is actually a Grega and indeed it is creative... a beer tap, tomahawk, bottle opener and other items adorn the fuselage. The current owner lives on Gundy's airport in Owasso, Oklahoma, which is also where I am building and happens to be right down the street from the son, Dan Cork Jr. He can be contacted through his web site http://www.thebrewshack.com/.Since we are on the subject, I'll share a short story... as many of you know, Istarted on my project a little over two years ago. Shortly after I started workon my project, I was looking for a cleanser for my beer kegerator lines. A friend of mine recommended a place called The Brew Shack, which operates outof a fellow's shop out behind his house. Once I looked at the address I realizedthat this guy was located right across the field from my place, so I wenton over. Once I walked inside I saw props on the wall, airplane photos and severalother signs of aviation activity, so of course I offered that I was a pilotand that I was building a Pietenpol. He paused for a second and then proceededto explain that he and his dad built a Grega. When he started to describeit, I quickly realized which one he was talking about... It is actually theonly one I have sat in. He took me to his computer and we started looking througha bunch of photos of him and his dad building N541K. Several days laterhe dropped by to hand me a CD with a bunch of build photos, which was a niceaddition to my extremely limited collection. I had obviously not heard of WestCoast Piet or Jim Markle yet... I just know that he's going to come throughwith those old Pietenpol newsletters in PDF format any day now. If I had the CD here I would post a photo. Perhaps I can talk to Dan and the newowner to see if they would mind me sending the photos to Chris at West CoastPiet.--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, CalienteCA
Yep, it did get rebuilt and it flies regularly. N541K is actually a Grega and indeed it is creative... a beer tap, tomahawk, bottle opener and other items adorn the fuselage. The current owner lives on Gundy's airport in Owasso, Oklahoma, which is also where I am building and happens to be right down the street from the son, Dan Cork Jr. He can be contacted through his web site http://www.thebrewshack.com/.Since we are on the subject, I'll share a short story... as many of you know, Istarted on my project a little over two years ago. Shortly after I started workon my project, I was looking for a cleanser for my beer kegerator lines. A friend of mine recommended a place called The Brew Shack, which operates outof a fellow's shop out behind his house. Once I looked at the address I realizedthat this guy was located right across the field from my place, so I wenton over. Once I walked inside I saw props on the wall, airplane photos and severalother signs of aviation activity, so of course I offered that I was a pilotand that I was building a Pietenpol. He paused for a second and then proceededto explain that he and his dad built a Grega. When he started to describeit, I quickly realized which one he was talking about... It is actually theonly one I have sat in. He took me to his computer and we started looking througha bunch of photos of him and his dad building N541K. Several days laterhe dropped by to hand me a CD with a bunch of build photos, which was a niceaddition to my extremely limited collection. I had obviously not heard of WestCoast Piet or Jim Markle yet... I just know that he's going to come throughwith those old Pietenpol newsletters in PDF format any day now. If I had the CD here I would post a photo. Perhaps I can talk to Dan and the newowner to see if they would mind me sending the photos to Chris at West CoastPiet.--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, CalienteCA
Original Posted By: airlion
Definitely NOT a CNC jig. LOL! Yeah, I happened across the same results when I was looking for a photo. I knowthe new owner pretty well... in fact, I'm borrowing his 00 and 000 torch tips.I'm pretty sure that he and Dan would let me share the photos if you guysare interested. Unlike you old timers, I have no association with the dad, but the son seemed realnice. Heck, he's a beer and wine guy... gets pretty high marks for that alone!--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 17:08:56 -0700 (PDT)
Definitely NOT a CNC jig. LOL! Yeah, I happened across the same results when I was looking for a photo. I knowthe new owner pretty well... in fact, I'm borrowing his 00 and 000 torch tips.I'm pretty sure that he and Dan would let me share the photos if you guysare interested. Unlike you old timers, I have no association with the dad, but the son seemed realnice. Heck, he's a beer and wine guy... gets pretty high marks for that alone!--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 17:08:56 -0700 (PDT)
RE: Pietenpol-List: update
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Gardiner, If you'll buy the material I will build you the ribs.Jack PhillipsNX899JP "Icarus Plummet"Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia-----Original Message-----
Gardiner, If you'll buy the material I will build you the ribs.Jack PhillipsNX899JP "Icarus Plummet"Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, Caliente
Original Posted By: "jarheadpilot82"
Fairly long post (adrenaline letdown).After about 30 hours in this plane, am finally starting to expand my knowledgeof how it handles a wider flight envelope. Today, I learned about where my limitin crosswind in the GN-1 is. Flew for a little over an hour and winds in Marshalltown,Iowa were 9kt at 20 degrees off the runway heading when I took-off- did six T@G with no problem (crosswind component = about 3kt, no biggie). This was the most wind I've ever flown this plane in to date. However - keep readingfor the Paul Harvey version of the saga.Next - went up to 3k AGL and did my first stall in this plane. Kept throttlingback and started playing around with slow flight getting a feel for it. At 47mphindicated (1100rpm), the nose would start to wander around - at 45 mph I'dget the occasional wiffodill (beginning light buffet of a stall). The rudderwas very sensitive and I felt like I could easily accidentally kick the planeinto a spin if not careful. At 42 mph indicated (the stick was about buried inmy nether regions) - the nose abruptly dropped like a stone slightly to theright and plane quickly accelerated to 85 mph before I got it pulled out withoutpulling too much G. This was a more abrupt stall with not as much warningas the C-172 that I'm used to flying, but not too bad. However - my big lessonon this was to make damn sure to watch the airspeed on final - no way will youever have time to pull out if you accidentally stall it, and you don't get verymuch notice that it's going to happen.Now the interesting part - I was flying past the airport again (on the way somewhereelse) and decided to check the AWOS - 19kt gusting to 26, 50 degrees offthe runway. Holy smokes.... that can't be right, it's only been an hour - nextupdate it was 17kt gusting to 25, 45 degrees off - next update it was 18ktgusting to 24kt, 55 degrees off, then 21kt, then 25, then 23... Okay - I neededto get down NOW before I soiling myself thinking about this...First approach was 19 gusting to 23 at 55 degrees off - and I was full rudder andcouldn't hold the 100ft wide runway - was churning butter with the stick itwas miserably rough within 100 ft of the ground - aborted and went around.Second approach was reported 18 gusting 26 at 55 off the runway- absolute fullrudder and about 30 degrees down wing to hold center line - to a landing thatI would be happy with in a normal situation. Was down and stopped in about 300ft.What an absolute ego trip!! Of bloody course nobody was watching to congratulateme on my expert pilot skills... sigh...18kt crosswind at 55 off the runway is around a 15kt direct crosswind component- or 17+mph. I don't think I saw more than about a 23kt gust - which would putit at about 19kt crosswind (22mph).I'm impressed with the planes ability to handle this high of crosswind - I don'tknow what the plane is actually capable of, but I was definitely at my personallimit.Too much excitement today for me.Lorin--------Lorin MillerWaiex N81YXGN-1 N30PPRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, CalienteCA
Fairly long post (adrenaline letdown).After about 30 hours in this plane, am finally starting to expand my knowledgeof how it handles a wider flight envelope. Today, I learned about where my limitin crosswind in the GN-1 is. Flew for a little over an hour and winds in Marshalltown,Iowa were 9kt at 20 degrees off the runway heading when I took-off- did six T@G with no problem (crosswind component = about 3kt, no biggie). This was the most wind I've ever flown this plane in to date. However - keep readingfor the Paul Harvey version of the saga.Next - went up to 3k AGL and did my first stall in this plane. Kept throttlingback and started playing around with slow flight getting a feel for it. At 47mphindicated (1100rpm), the nose would start to wander around - at 45 mph I'dget the occasional wiffodill (beginning light buffet of a stall). The rudderwas very sensitive and I felt like I could easily accidentally kick the planeinto a spin if not careful. At 42 mph indicated (the stick was about buried inmy nether regions) - the nose abruptly dropped like a stone slightly to theright and plane quickly accelerated to 85 mph before I got it pulled out withoutpulling too much G. This was a more abrupt stall with not as much warningas the C-172 that I'm used to flying, but not too bad. However - my big lessonon this was to make damn sure to watch the airspeed on final - no way will youever have time to pull out if you accidentally stall it, and you don't get verymuch notice that it's going to happen.Now the interesting part - I was flying past the airport again (on the way somewhereelse) and decided to check the AWOS - 19kt gusting to 26, 50 degrees offthe runway. Holy smokes.... that can't be right, it's only been an hour - nextupdate it was 17kt gusting to 25, 45 degrees off - next update it was 18ktgusting to 24kt, 55 degrees off, then 21kt, then 25, then 23... Okay - I neededto get down NOW before I soiling myself thinking about this...First approach was 19 gusting to 23 at 55 degrees off - and I was full rudder andcouldn't hold the 100ft wide runway - was churning butter with the stick itwas miserably rough within 100 ft of the ground - aborted and went around.Second approach was reported 18 gusting 26 at 55 off the runway- absolute fullrudder and about 30 degrees down wing to hold center line - to a landing thatI would be happy with in a normal situation. Was down and stopped in about 300ft.What an absolute ego trip!! Of bloody course nobody was watching to congratulateme on my expert pilot skills... sigh...18kt crosswind at 55 off the runway is around a 15kt direct crosswind component- or 17+mph. I don't think I saw more than about a 23kt gust - which would putit at about 19kt crosswind (22mph).I'm impressed with the planes ability to handle this high of crosswind - I don'tknow what the plane is actually capable of, but I was definitely at my personallimit.Too much excitement today for me.Lorin--------Lorin MillerWaiex N81YXGN-1 N30PPRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, CalienteCA
Original Posted By: "Jack"
Michael,I am glad that you were able to get this search completed so quickly. It also neverceases to amaze me how small this Pietenpol world truly is. It also amazesme how everyone is willing to help and support each other as a part of thisgreat building and flying community.I am excited about the opportunity to meet some of you at Brodhead this year. Ihave my notebook, pen, and camera ready!--------Semper Fi,TerryRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Michael,I am glad that you were able to get this search completed so quickly. It also neverceases to amaze me how small this Pietenpol world truly is. It also amazesme how everyone is willing to help and support each other as a part of thisgreat building and flying community.I am excited about the opportunity to meet some of you at Brodhead this year. Ihave my notebook, pen, and camera ready!--------Semper Fi,TerryRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: update
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Dan,I believe they sell at Brodhead for $300. Can't remember but I sold a setfor $200 to $300 a couple of years ago.Jack-----Original Message-----
Dan,I believe they sell at Brodhead for $300. Can't remember but I sold a setfor $200 to $300 a couple of years ago.Jack-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, Caliente
Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
Use a tarp [Laughing]--------JohnRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, CalienteCA
Use a tarp [Laughing]--------JohnRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, CalienteCA
Pietenpol-List: Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, Caliente
Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
Mike,I just got off the phone with Dan Cork. He sounded pretty good. I'm sure he wouldlike to hear from you. He said you were a great inspiration for him. Onlygot to talk for a couple of minutes due to me being at work. I know, I shouldn'tlet that get in the way. But it pays the bills and I have to. The numberI gave you is a good one to reach him at. Have a great weekend,--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, CalienteCA
Mike,I just got off the phone with Dan Cork. He sounded pretty good. I'm sure he wouldlike to hear from you. He said you were a great inspiration for him. Onlygot to talk for a couple of minutes due to me being at work. I know, I shouldn'tlet that get in the way. But it pays the bills and I have to. The numberI gave you is a good one to reach him at. Have a great weekend,--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, CalienteCA
Pietenpol-List: Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, Caliente
Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
Great! Glad you guys are catching up with him. Someone be sure to tell him thathis airplane is still flying regularly.--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, CalienteCA
Great! Glad you guys are catching up with him. Someone be sure to tell him thathis airplane is still flying regularly.--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, CalienteCA
Pietenpol-List: Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, Caliente
Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
I'm agreeing with Matt... Kitlog Pro is great... not to mention that he is theguy that keeps this site alive. It is super easy to update or add photos andit prints out nicely. There are also forms for keeping track of expenses, vendors,helpers, etc.You can view my log at the link in my signature. I've looked at several otherprograms and I like this one the best.--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, CalienteCA
I'm agreeing with Matt... Kitlog Pro is great... not to mention that he is theguy that keeps this site alive. It is super easy to update or add photos andit prints out nicely. There are also forms for keeping track of expenses, vendors,helpers, etc.You can view my log at the link in my signature. I've looked at several otherprograms and I like this one the best.--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, CalienteCA
Re: Pietenpol-List: Nuthin ever works out like I plan...
Original Posted By: Mark Roberts
Got to hand prop my first airplane yesterday. I'm only putting this here becauseit happened to be N541K at our Learn to Fly event yesterday.--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/n541 ... ______Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 19:06:22 -0700Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Nuthin ever works out like I plan...
Got to hand prop my first airplane yesterday. I'm only putting this here becauseit happened to be N541K at our Learn to Fly event yesterday.--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/n541 ... ______Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 19:06:22 -0700Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Nuthin ever works out like I plan...