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Original Posted By: Dan Yocum
It's dimple tape.- Think golf ball dimples.The original dimple tape web site is gone, but you can buy the stuff at any vinyl sign shop.- Cut it into 1" wide strips and apply it to the thickest part of the airfoil (prop, wing, aerodynamic strut, etc.). Works like vortex generators.- Bill Rewey put it on his prop and gets 10% increase in performance and quieter operations, too.- Glad to hear that Shad is getting similar improvement.Shad, did you superglue it on to the prop?DanOn 07/19/2011 04:37 PM, mark lee wrote:> That's really weird.You say it's just tape?>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 2:09 PM, shad bell > wrote:>>- ---Well folks, just test flew the prop with the vortex tape on it, it>- ---actually works.- I can pull the power back even further to maintain>- ---78mph, and 2900rpm (indicated).- It is about 100 150 rpm faster on>- ---climbout.- Woth the effort I guess, just not sure how long it will>- ---stick to the prop before it starts coming loose.>- ---Weather permiting I'm headed out at 7am tommorow.>- ---Shad>>- ---*>>- ---" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List>- ---tp://forums.matronics.com>- ---_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution>>- ---*>>> *>>> *-- Dan YocumFermilab- 630.840.6509yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."le, List Admin.________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:46:04 -0500
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Original Posted By: John Hofmann
It has begun.--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
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Original Posted By: Gene Rambo
I just talked to Kevin and he is at the Sand Burr enjoying lunch. No issues at all on the trip up.Jack Phillips and Matt Paxton were delayed out. Matt had a bungee give out on the gear that cost them a few hours. It happened during a tight turn. No damage other than the prop tips. It looks as the bungees may have been loose and went a bit over center, then were unable to come back. They are replacing the prop with the St Croix that Jack has at his hangar and tightening the bungees. With any luck may get across the mountains of WV today. -john-http://www.cafepress.com/half_fastJohn HofmannVice-President, Information TechnologyThe Rees Group, Inc.2424 American LaneMadison, WI 53704Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150Fax: 608.443.2474Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.comOn Jul 19, 2011, at 1:00 PM, K5YAC wrote:> > It has begun.> > --------> Mark Chouinard> Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage> > > > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 063#347063> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
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RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!!

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People in Wichita pay $20 to see a crash like that!
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Original Posted By:> jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com
I wish I was there to smack him with a 2x4....John HofmannVice-President, Information TechnologyThe Rees Group, Inc.2424 American LaneMadison, WI 53704Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150Fax: 608.443.2474Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.comOn Jul 19, 2011, at 2:38 PM, Gene Rambo wrote:> People in Wichita pay $20 to see a crash like that!>
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Kevin:Did you have a safety cable, loosely Nicro Pressed across the bungees ?That is supposed to prevent the prop damage.Pieti LowellRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
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We didn't make it out today. Weather was IFR until about 2:30 or 3:00, andwe had to drive an hour and a half each way back to my hangar at SmithMountin Lake to get my spare prop for Matt's plane. By the time we got thenew prop installed and the bungees fixed, it was 6:00 PM and we were tootired to think about flying. We'll launch as early as we can in the morningand see how far we can get. Forecast looks pretty good. With luck, wemight make it all the way, landing Brodhead by about 7:00 PMJack Phillips & Matt Paxton
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Original Posted By: "Boothe, Gary"
Wish I could be delayed.on a trip to Brodhead...... I guess I actually am as Ihave to finish my pane before I can fly it there................ thanks for allthe posts so I can enjoy Brodhead from my phone on Seattle... I did get to flybackseat in a t-6 doing formation flying on Saturday so don't feel too sorryfor me...........--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Piets to Brodhead

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Original Posted By: gboothe5(at)comcast.net
Drove up here to PG yesterday and over nighted. Getting all my last minute business stuff done this a.m. Sometime later this morning I'll pack up the Aeronca and fly my camping stuff (including the super-sized fish scale for Gary) over to C-37 and dump off. Then back to PG to get NX929DH ready. Not sure when that will be. Hopefully these winds will not be as bad as everybody is saying. Right now they are light. So as of right now the plan is to arrive at Brodhead today sometime.This is the last time I will get a chance to check this list today, so if any of you boys are getting close to C-77 give me a call (815) 298-5680. Maybe we can hook-up.Everybody fly safe, ya hear?Dan HelsperPoplar Grove, IL.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Piets to Brodhead
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Pietenpol-List: Re: secret wepon tape

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Sorry about the misfortune... glad you guys are okay. Enjoy your time at Brodhead and I will hold things steady here in Afghanistan.Just please... pleeeeeeease post some pics for me and the rest of the fellas thatcould not make it out this year. :D Very respectfully,DerekRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: secret wepon tape
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>From a post I did on the J3 forum as a curiosity question to the members on thistopic.> Well, when Charlie Horton tried it on the prop of his Comanche 400, his rateof climb went from 1800 fpm to 500 fpm. That's a performance improvement I cando without.> > More telling, Greg Deetman did extensive and rigourous flight testing on it forhis 136 page Master's Degree thesis at the University of Tennessee. Page 71of 136 sums it up. When optimally placed, there was no discernible performanceincrease. When non-optimally placed, the performance degradation ranged fromabout 4% to 11%.> > Performance of dimples is very Reynolds number specific, and our aircraft onlytransiently pass through that small range of Reynolds numbers. This is a performance"enhancement" I don't need.> > P.S. Vortilator tape works better, and it doesn't always work.--------Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piets to Brodhead
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Pietenpol-List: Re: Engine Run Video

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Original Posted By: "caldwrl"
Dale McCleskey wrote:> I'm planning to leave Lebanon TN sometime Thursday, fly part way and find a nice,soft hotel bed Thursday night. So plan to be in by noon on Friday, providedI don't turn my sectional upside down and wind up in L.A. (that's lower Alabamabtw).Dale, I'm just on the north side of Indianapolis (KTYQ) - Indianapolis ExecutiveAirport. If you make it this far Thursday and have an interest, I can probablyfind you a hanger to put your bird in Thurs. night. I also have a spare bedroomyou can use. I plan on going to Broadhead Saturday in my Cessna 170. Don'thave my Piet done yet. If interested let me know.Dave EsslingerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Engine Run Video
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Original Posted By: gboothe5(at)comcast.net
Gary... what a great video. I look forward to your aircraft flying around HollyLake Ranch some day. I hope to have my 'vair running by year's end. See youat Brodhead... hopefully Friday afternoon if the old Stinson holds togetherand the rain stays away.--------Robert CaldwellRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Engine Run Video
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Thanks! I'll be looking for you!------Original Message------
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Original Posted By: "TriScout"
Met Shelly, Axel, Gary & Shad, Dan Helsper...Life is good!GarySent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerry________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!!
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Original Posted By: Dan Yocum
Wow!... Following this post kinda makes me want to rent that old 60's movie..something..."magnificentFlying something..something..flying machines " ..I just assembled the GN1 I bought, but couldn't get the Annual scheduled on timefor me to make it this year. Just watched the Lindbergh (Jimmy Stewart) movieand now am studying the feasibility of trying to non-stopper next year KLNC-C37(800sm). I think a 35 gallon tank in the front hole with a hand-crank pumpmight work. The issue would be oil burn on a 12hr flt. Hmm... interesting.LarryRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!!
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Original Posted By: Jim Boyer
Don't forget potty breaks. And stretch breaks. -- Dan Yocumyocum137(at)gmail.com"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."On Jul 20, 2011, at 8:29 PM, "TriScout" wrote:> > Wow!... Following this post kinda makes me want to rent that old 60's movie..something..."magnificentFlying something..something..flying machines " ..> > I just assembled the GN1 I bought, but couldn't get the Annual scheduled on timefor me to make it this year. Just watched the Lindbergh (Jimmy Stewart) movieand now am studying the feasibility of trying to non-stopper next year KLNC-C37(800sm). I think a 35 gallon tank in the front hole with a hand-crankpump might work. The issue would be oil burn on a 12hr flt. Hmm... interesting.Larry> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 246#347246> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 02:32:03 +0000 (UTC)
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Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
Magnificent Men In Their Flying Machines.Some really neat stuff and some cheesy crap.Great airplanes though.So if the crank is in the front seat and your inthe back............?Clif>> Wow!... Following this post kinda makes me want to rent that old 60's > movie..something..."magnificent Flying something..something..flying > machines " .. I think a 35 gallon tank in the front hole with a hand-crank pump might work. The issue would be oil burn on a 12hr flt. Hmm... interesting. Larry________________________________________________________________________________
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As one who just spent seven hours in the cockpit of a Pietenpol yesterday, Iwould say the issue is not fuel, but how much abuse the pilot is willing totake. I've done it in one day from North Carolina before (700 sm), leavingat dawn and landing Brodhead just after sunset. I won't do it again.Jack PhillipsHoping to make Brodhead before noon today-----Original Message-----
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I just talked to Kevin and he is at the Sand Burr enjoying lunch. No issues at all on the trip up.Jack Phillips and Matt Paxton were delayed out. Matt had a bungee give out on the gear that cost them a few hours. It happened during a tight turn. No damage other than the prop tips. It looks as the bungees may have been loose and went a bit over center=2C then were unable to come back. They are replacing the prop with the St Croix that Jack has at his hangar and tightening the bungees. With any luck may get across the mountains of WV today. -john-http://www.cafepress.com/half_fastJohn HofmannVice-President=2C Information TechnologyThe Rees Group=2C Inc.2424 American LaneMadison=2C WI 53704Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150Fax: 608.443.2474Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.comOn Jul 19=2C 2011=2C at 1:00 PM=2C K5YAC wrote:It has begun.--------Mark ChouinardWings=2C Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 063#347063 &n======================== ======================= ________________________________________________________________________________
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> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> > I just talked to Kevin and he is at the Sand Burr enjoying lunch. No issues at all on the trip up.> > Jack Phillips and Matt Paxton were delayed out. Matt had a bungee give out on the gear that cost them a few hours. It happened during a tight turn. No damage other than the prop tips. It looks as the bungees may have been loose and went a bit over center, then were unable to come back. They are replacing the prop with the St Croix that Jack has at his hangar and tightening the bungees. With any luck may get across the mountains of WV today. > > -john-> > http://www.cafepress.com/half_fast> John Hofmann> Vice-President, Information Technology> The Rees Group, Inc.> 2424 American Lane> Madison, WI 53704> Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150> Fax: 608.443.2474> Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com> > On Jul 19, 2011, at 1:00 PM, K5YAC wrote:> > > It has begun.> > --------> Mark Chouinard> Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage> > > > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 063#347063 &n======================== ========================> > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
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>> >>> It's dimple tape. Think golf ball dimples.>> The original dimple tape web site is gone, but you can buy the stuff at> any vinyl sign shop. Cut it into 1" wide strips and apply it to the> thickest part of the airfoil (prop, wing, aerodynamic strut, etc.).> Works like vortex generators. Bill Rewey put it on his prop and gets> 10% increase in performance and quieter operations, too. Glad to hear> that Shad is getting similar improvement.>> Shad, did you superglue it on to the prop?>> Dan>>> On 07/19/2011 04:37 PM, mark lee wrote:> > That's really weird.You say it's just tape?> >> > On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 2:09 PM, shad bell > > >>> wrote:> >> > Well folks, just test flew the prop with the vortex tape on it, it> > actually works. I can pull the power back even further to maintain> > 78mph, and 2900rpm (indicated). It is about 100 150 rpm faster on> > climbout. Woth the effort I guess, just not sure how long it will> > stick to the prop before it starts coming loose.> > Weather permiting I'm headed out at 7am tommorow.> > Shad> >> > *> >> > " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List> > tp://forums.matronics.com> > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution> >> > *> >> >> > *> >> >> > *>> --> Dan Yocum> Fermilab 630.840.6509> yocum(at)fnal.gov> ,> http://fermigrid.fnal.gov > "I fly because it releases my t;> http://forums.sp;> - List Contribution Web S -Matt Dralle, Listm/contribution"> target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution> >>> *>>> *-- Dan YocumFermilab 630.840.6509yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 03:14:54 +0000 (UTC)
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