Original Posted By: "Ryan Mueller"
Pietenpol-List: Landing gear
RE: Pietenpol-List: Landing gear
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Sorry to interrupt the banter with a real answer, and actually, it's more ofa follow-up question rather than an answer, and maybe it could also beclassified as "banter", but here goes:By "cub-style" gear, do you mean the split axle gear as shown on drawing No.3 of the improved Air Camper plans (clip attached). If so, then yes, mostbuilders have the plans. They are readily available from the Pietenpolfamily.You write that you have an idea what you want it to look like, I would guessthat what you want it to look like would be, oh, I don't know... maybesomething like ... cub gear?Maybe I'm missing something here.Bill C. _____
Sorry to interrupt the banter with a real answer, and actually, it's more ofa follow-up question rather than an answer, and maybe it could also beclassified as "banter", but here goes:By "cub-style" gear, do you mean the split axle gear as shown on drawing No.3 of the improved Air Camper plans (clip attached). If so, then yes, mostbuilders have the plans. They are readily available from the Pietenpolfamily.You write that you have an idea what you want it to look like, I would guessthat what you want it to look like would be, oh, I don't know... maybesomething like ... cub gear?Maybe I'm missing something here.Bill C. _____
Re: Pietenpol-List: Landing gear
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Re: Pietenpol-List: Landing gear
Original Posted By: "Bill Church"
Sorry about that. I like the looks of the the triangle under the floor to attachmy struts to versus the long spring strut to the front gear mounting point.I have springs already, so I don't plan to use shock chord. Our plane is aSky Scout. I have the plans and builder's guide from the Peit family, but itdoesn't have any additional gear plans in it. I want to build them to plansminus the the spring struts. The ones in the plans are heavy and I just likethe other look better. The gear on Chuck Gantzer's plane are the look I'm goingfor. Jeremy in DallasSent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile-----Original Message-----
Sorry about that. I like the looks of the the triangle under the floor to attachmy struts to versus the long spring strut to the front gear mounting point.I have springs already, so I don't plan to use shock chord. Our plane is aSky Scout. I have the plans and builder's guide from the Peit family, but itdoesn't have any additional gear plans in it. I want to build them to plansminus the the spring struts. The ones in the plans are heavy and I just likethe other look better. The gear on Chuck Gantzer's plane are the look I'm goingfor. Jeremy in DallasSent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Landing gear
Original Posted By: shad bell
RE: Pietenpol-List: Steerable Tailwheel
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Do you have any photos of this procedure I am right in the middle ofinstalling tailwheel, rudders cable etc. and this would be helpful to metoo.Rob-----Original Message-----
Do you have any photos of this procedure I am right in the middle ofinstalling tailwheel, rudders cable etc. and this would be helpful to metoo.Rob-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Steerable Tailwheel
Original Posted By: shad bell
Pietenpol-List: Re: Steerable Tailwheel
Original Posted By: "Bill Church"
I'm using Bill Rewy's idea. I connected the tailwheel steering cables to the ruddercables under the rear seat using brass #10 split wire connectors, just likethose in the pictures in the previous post. They work really well and I'vehad no problems at all. They can be easily loosened and slid slightly forwardor aft if needed for adjustment. I've only done that once. There are otherways but these are definitely very simple and they don't cause stress on therudder.Don EmchNX899DERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 6355#206355________________________________________________________________________________
I'm using Bill Rewy's idea. I connected the tailwheel steering cables to the ruddercables under the rear seat using brass #10 split wire connectors, just likethose in the pictures in the previous post. They work really well and I'vehad no problems at all. They can be easily loosened and slid slightly forwardor aft if needed for adjustment. I've only done that once. There are otherways but these are definitely very simple and they don't cause stress on therudder.Don EmchNX899DERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 6355#206355________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Landing gear
Original Posted By: "Bill Church"
OOOOOhhh, you're talking about the Sky Scout landing gear... That'sdifferent ... Never mind.But seriously, I guess your plans would show the landing gear similar to thegear shown in the attached photo (Sky Scout.jpg).That is definitely different from the Air camper plans. I kind of like thelooks of the Sky Scout gear, but you are building your plane, so you get todo what you want.Anyway, I believe Chuck Gantzer's landing gear was originally built to theImproved Air Camper plans (with bungees), and he later modified them toaccommodate the compression springs (see second attached photo). Here's alink to Chuck's webpage - go to the bottom of the page for the landing gear.Looks like it would be pretty straightforward to figure out - all you needto do is replace the cross tubes (with the bungees) with the springmechanism. There are details of the spring arrangement here:http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/photoD ... pg&PhotoID 09And, from the 1933 plans, the sizes of the tubes for the "Improved" landinggear are 1 3/8" diameter x 14ga 1020 steel tube for the main vees, and 3/4"diameter x 18ga 1020 steel tube for the cross tubes.Does that help?Bill C. ________________________________________________________________________________
OOOOOhhh, you're talking about the Sky Scout landing gear... That'sdifferent ... Never mind.But seriously, I guess your plans would show the landing gear similar to thegear shown in the attached photo (Sky Scout.jpg).That is definitely different from the Air camper plans. I kind of like thelooks of the Sky Scout gear, but you are building your plane, so you get todo what you want.Anyway, I believe Chuck Gantzer's landing gear was originally built to theImproved Air Camper plans (with bungees), and he later modified them toaccommodate the compression springs (see second attached photo). Here's alink to Chuck's webpage - go to the bottom of the page for the landing gear.Looks like it would be pretty straightforward to figure out - all you needto do is replace the cross tubes (with the bungees) with the springmechanism. There are details of the spring arrangement here:http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/photoD ... pg&PhotoID 09And, from the 1933 plans, the sizes of the tubes for the "Improved" landinggear are 1 3/8" diameter x 14ga 1020 steel tube for the main vees, and 3/4"diameter x 18ga 1020 steel tube for the cross tubes.Does that help?Bill C. ________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Landing gear
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Oops.Forgot the link to Chuck's webpage. Here it is:http://nx770cg.com/Fuselage.htmlBC _____
Oops.Forgot the link to Chuck's webpage. Here it is:http://nx770cg.com/Fuselage.htmlBC _____
RE: Pietenpol-List: Landing gear
Original Posted By: "Brian Kraut"
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Steerable Tailwheel
Original Posted By: TBYH(at)aol.com
We do not stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing. Never Be The First To Get Old!!!!! It's good to see some of us are not getting old.I thought that's what Pietenpoling was all about,not getting old!Just to keep things in the proper fashion, I am goingto run my tailwheel cables straight to the bar. It might be a little difficult to attach them to the rudder cables anywhere else as they go straight from the bar to thehorns. On the horns of a dilema as it were. :-)Won't get that done for a while though, got too manyflutes to make!Clif> > Now can we get back to the peeing-in-the-cup stories? I have one too> > Gary Boothe________________________________________________________________________________
We do not stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing. Never Be The First To Get Old!!!!! It's good to see some of us are not getting old.I thought that's what Pietenpoling was all about,not getting old!Just to keep things in the proper fashion, I am goingto run my tailwheel cables straight to the bar. It might be a little difficult to attach them to the rudder cables anywhere else as they go straight from the bar to thehorns. On the horns of a dilema as it were. :-)Won't get that done for a while though, got too manyflutes to make!Clif> > Now can we get back to the peeing-in-the-cup stories? I have one too> > Gary Boothe________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Mid-Air "Pit Stop"
Original Posted By: amsafetyc(at)aol.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Mid-Air "Pit Stop"One of our local WW2 P-51 pilots, Johnny Salsman, was telling me about how on a long mission one of their pilots had to go -- not just #1 but #2. He didn't know what to do so Johnny (357th FG, 364th FS) told him via the radio to carefully pull his pants down, slide his map under his rear end and let' er go.This worked okay...right up until the "relieved" pilot cracked the canopy to throw the whole mess out...Johnny simultaneously, but an instant too late, calledover to tell him DO NOT OPEN THE CANOPY!!!Well you can imagine what a 275 mph or more windspeed did with the map and its "contents!" Johnny said that when they got back to England the pilot was so embarassed that he didn't even let his crew clean out the cockpit of his Mustang -- he didit himself! True story. But as my late Mom would say, "Enough to gag a maggot!" **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips andcalculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Mid-Air "Pit Stop"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Mid-Air "Pit Stop"One of our local WW2 P-51 pilots, Johnny Salsman, was telling me about how on a long mission one of their pilots had to go -- not just #1 but #2. He didn't know what to do so Johnny (357th FG, 364th FS) told him via the radio to carefully pull his pants down, slide his map under his rear end and let' er go.This worked okay...right up until the "relieved" pilot cracked the canopy to throw the whole mess out...Johnny simultaneously, but an instant too late, calledover to tell him DO NOT OPEN THE CANOPY!!!Well you can imagine what a 275 mph or more windspeed did with the map and its "contents!" Johnny said that when they got back to England the pilot was so embarassed that he didn't even let his crew clean out the cockpit of his Mustang -- he didit himself! True story. But as my late Mom would say, "Enough to gag a maggot!" **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips andcalculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Mid-Air "Pit Stop"
Pietenpol-List: Re: Radial engines/types/price
Original Posted By: "Pieti Lowell"
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Original Posted By: "Ryan Mueller"
A number of years ago I installed a Werner 145 on my Piet, and the climb rate exceeded2000 FPM, weight was up there but I never changed anything, the rangewas restricted, and was at Brodhead a couple times. I later installed a Lambert90 HP , and this was perfect, this engine will be at Brodhead next year on anotherPiet.This Lambert was at Brodhead for the last two years. I put togethera couple more Lamberts that will show up on Piets.Most of these engines werepurchased for under $7.000.00 with fresh overhauls. There was a Kinner on a Pieta number of years ago. As well as a La blond by the Brodhead boys, and itwon the Wright award in 1998. Any dependable round engine of 300 LBS or less willwork, and look good. The engines are around, visit the old collectors of partsand put one together, you would be amazed at the performance.Pieti Lowell Thank you.> Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 6483#206483________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 17:19:17 -0500
A number of years ago I installed a Werner 145 on my Piet, and the climb rate exceeded2000 FPM, weight was up there but I never changed anything, the rangewas restricted, and was at Brodhead a couple times. I later installed a Lambert90 HP , and this was perfect, this engine will be at Brodhead next year on anotherPiet.This Lambert was at Brodhead for the last two years. I put togethera couple more Lamberts that will show up on Piets.Most of these engines werepurchased for under $7.000.00 with fresh overhauls. There was a Kinner on a Pieta number of years ago. As well as a La blond by the Brodhead boys, and itwon the Wright award in 1998. Any dependable round engine of 300 LBS or less willwork, and look good. The engines are around, visit the old collectors of partsand put one together, you would be amazed at the performance.Pieti Lowell Thank you.> Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 6483#206483________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 17:19:17 -0500
Re: Pietenpol-List: Landing gear
Original Posted By: shad bell
Pietenpol-List: Re: Landing gear
Original Posted By: "dgaldrich"
At one time I had a copy of a drawing showing the construction of a landing gearleg which used a tube within a tube and a spring to take up landing shock. I'vemisplaced it, and I can't find it in the archives. Can someone direct me toits location?Many thanks,Dick Carden________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Landing gear
At one time I had a copy of a drawing showing the construction of a landing gearleg which used a tube within a tube and a spring to take up landing shock. I'vemisplaced it, and I can't find it in the archives. Can someone direct me toits location?Many thanks,Dick Carden________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Landing gear
Original Posted By: Michael Groah
Bill Rewey sells a packet of stuff that includes one example. His $20 packet hasa LOT of worthwhile stuff.There are others here with similar stuff but I like to throw business his way sincehe works so hard for the BPA.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 07:35:20 -0800 (PST)
Bill Rewey sells a packet of stuff that includes one example. His $20 packet hasa LOT of worthwhile stuff.There are others here with similar stuff but I like to throw business his way sincehe works so hard for the BPA.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 07:35:20 -0800 (PST)
Pietenpol-List: Re: Landing gear
Original Posted By: "ivan.todorovic"
I sent this out via e-mail and facebook... but I just want to reach as many peopleas I can... so I'm reposting it. Last night at our EAA meeting, we visited with Jim Bridenstine (Tulsa Air and SpaceMuseum Director) and Shuttle Endeavor Mission Specialist (STS-113, FlightEngineer), CDR John Harrington. Both spoke about the TASM Air Show/Rocket Racingevent that will be held on Saturday, March 13 at TASM (NW corner of TulsaInternational Airport). I know that I sent many of you a write up on the RocketRacing League nearly a year ago, but I cant possibly cover all the detailsthat were discussed last night. In brief, there should be several aircraft displaysand demonstrations, and they are planning to have jumbotrons placed wherespectators can enjoy a POV view of the race while it occurs in front of andin the air above the crowd. This will be the first (and quite possibly thelast) rocket race in Tulsa. These things are very powerful and very loud markyour calendars and invite your friends this ought to be an awesome event. These fellows also gave us an update on their efforts to acquire a space shuttle for the Tulsa Air and Space Museum. Of the three that will be entering retirement, one is already spoken for (Enterprise - NASA). Two remain Endeavor and Atlantis. CDR Harrington would obviously like to see Endeavor land in Tulsa. Here is one of the videos that we watched at our meeting last night. http://www.landtheshuttle.com/ When you go to the link, you will have to click on the Media/Gallery link once there, click on Videos and play the default video that comes up. It is about 6 minutes long. Felice Baldwin (wife of Dr. Guy Baldwin) visited with us about the need for volunteersin order to get the Oklahoma air show circuit back up and running. Guywas the coordinator and air boss at the Claremore Wings Over Oklahoma Air Showup until the last event in 2005, and they were both instrumental in the Muskogeeair shows, which havent occurred for several years. For those that didntknow him, Guy Baldwin was the Aviation Medical Examiner for most of us in theTulsa area he was killed in an accident in 2006. Im not sure what may be inthe works for the coming year, but Felice was generally trying to reach out forsuggestions and support (volunteers) in the event that we land a show in thecoming season. We had a really good program to start the year off right. Ill keep you postedif I hear anything more on these or other aviation events.--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/fina ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Landing gear
I sent this out via e-mail and facebook... but I just want to reach as many peopleas I can... so I'm reposting it. Last night at our EAA meeting, we visited with Jim Bridenstine (Tulsa Air and SpaceMuseum Director) and Shuttle Endeavor Mission Specialist (STS-113, FlightEngineer), CDR John Harrington. Both spoke about the TASM Air Show/Rocket Racingevent that will be held on Saturday, March 13 at TASM (NW corner of TulsaInternational Airport). I know that I sent many of you a write up on the RocketRacing League nearly a year ago, but I cant possibly cover all the detailsthat were discussed last night. In brief, there should be several aircraft displaysand demonstrations, and they are planning to have jumbotrons placed wherespectators can enjoy a POV view of the race while it occurs in front of andin the air above the crowd. This will be the first (and quite possibly thelast) rocket race in Tulsa. These things are very powerful and very loud markyour calendars and invite your friends this ought to be an awesome event. These fellows also gave us an update on their efforts to acquire a space shuttle for the Tulsa Air and Space Museum. Of the three that will be entering retirement, one is already spoken for (Enterprise - NASA). Two remain Endeavor and Atlantis. CDR Harrington would obviously like to see Endeavor land in Tulsa. Here is one of the videos that we watched at our meeting last night. http://www.landtheshuttle.com/ When you go to the link, you will have to click on the Media/Gallery link once there, click on Videos and play the default video that comes up. It is about 6 minutes long. Felice Baldwin (wife of Dr. Guy Baldwin) visited with us about the need for volunteersin order to get the Oklahoma air show circuit back up and running. Guywas the coordinator and air boss at the Claremore Wings Over Oklahoma Air Showup until the last event in 2005, and they were both instrumental in the Muskogeeair shows, which havent occurred for several years. For those that didntknow him, Guy Baldwin was the Aviation Medical Examiner for most of us in theTulsa area he was killed in an accident in 2006. Im not sure what may be inthe works for the coming year, but Felice was generally trying to reach out forsuggestions and support (volunteers) in the event that we land a show in thecoming season. We had a really good program to start the year off right. Ill keep you postedif I hear anything more on these or other aviation events.--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/fina ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Landing gear
Re: Pietenpol-List: Landing gear
Original Posted By: Rick Holland
I've got these two drawings, maybe that is what you are looking for.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/land ... ______Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 12:25:46 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Landing gear
I've got these two drawings, maybe that is what you are looking for.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/land ... ______Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 12:25:46 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Landing gear
RE: Pietenpol-List: Landing gear
Original Posted By: John Franklin
This is what I have Dick.JackDSM________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 21:39:08 -0500 (EST)
This is what I have Dick.JackDSM________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 21:39:08 -0500 (EST)
RE: Pietenpol-List: Landing gear
Original Posted By: Jim Markle
Pietenpol-List: Re: Landing gear
Original Posted By: "taildrags"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Selling my Pietenpol Projectwhat's the punch line?In a message dated 1/19/2010 11:14:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jim_markle(at)mindspring.com writes:--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Markle Well, this is a decision I've dreaded....I'm selling my project. VERY close to "ready to cover" and the Model A engine runs great.Fact is, Julia and I are having to make some sacrifices during these tough economic times and the Piet (along with several other things we cherish) must go.I put it on barnstormers and may also try eBay.This list and my friends here are very important to me and I don't like getting so off topic, so I won't take up any more time here for this subject.JM________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Landing gear
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Selling my Pietenpol Projectwhat's the punch line?In a message dated 1/19/2010 11:14:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jim_markle(at)mindspring.com writes:--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Markle Well, this is a decision I've dreaded....I'm selling my project. VERY close to "ready to cover" and the Model A engine runs great.Fact is, Julia and I are having to make some sacrifices during these tough economic times and the Piet (along with several other things we cherish) must go.I put it on barnstormers and may also try eBay.This list and my friends here are very important to me and I don't like getting so off topic, so I won't take up any more time here for this subject.JM________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Landing gear
RE: RE: Pietenpol-List: Landing gear
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Wish I could remember Jeff. Just collected over time. Oscar is correct,for one of the drawings the tube size changed. Let me know if you want meto dig it up.JackDSM-----Original Message-----
Wish I could remember Jeff. Just collected over time. Oscar is correct,for one of the drawings the tube size changed. Let me know if you want meto dig it up.JackDSM-----Original Message-----
RE: Pietenpol-List: Landing gear
Original Posted By: Jim Ash
> Pietenpol-List: Selling my Pietenpol Project
Original Posted By: H RULE
RE: Pietenpol-List: Landing gear
Original Posted By: KM Heide CPO/FAAOP
The only plans available are the ones in the manual. I used the drawings of thefittings only as a guide, especially the fittings on the inside and outside partsof the wooden gear legs. These fittings need to be matched to the actualgear legs you construct. I don't recall what gage I used. I'll measure and repostlater today.Rick Schreiber----- Original Message -----
The only plans available are the ones in the manual. I used the drawings of thefittings only as a guide, especially the fittings on the inside and outside partsof the wooden gear legs. These fittings need to be matched to the actualgear legs you construct. I don't recall what gage I used. I'll measure and repostlater today.Rick Schreiber----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Landing gear
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Pietenpol-List: Brodhead pictures
Original Posted By: Ken Bickers
Ken,I assume that when you say "the manual", you are referring to the 1932 Flying andGlider Manual, and therefore you are asking about the straight axle, Jenny-stylegear. I agree that the tiny drawing in the EAA reprint is extremely difficultto read, but there is a larger drawing available. The Pietenpol family offersfor sale a large scale drawing for the original landing gear. See this link,and scroll down to Product#7:http://www.pressenter.com/~apietenp/Product.htmlBill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 14:09:19 -0600Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead pictures
Ken,I assume that when you say "the manual", you are referring to the 1932 Flying andGlider Manual, and therefore you are asking about the straight axle, Jenny-stylegear. I agree that the tiny drawing in the EAA reprint is extremely difficultto read, but there is a larger drawing available. The Pietenpol family offersfor sale a large scale drawing for the original landing gear. See this link,and scroll down to Product#7:http://www.pressenter.com/~apietenp/Product.htmlBill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 14:09:19 -0600Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead pictures
> Re: Landing gear
Original Posted By: "D.J.H."
> > The tubes are 1-3/8" by .079 wall if I remember correctly. (you wouldthink> I should) I built by rudder pedals per plans.> Steve e.> > -----Original Message-----> Patcoolnet(at)aol.com> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 1999 10:43 AM> To: Pietenpol Discussion> Subject: Re: Landing gear> > > Hi There! I am sending this for my Dad, so you might have to readbetween> the> lines--He has the fusalage about done for his Piet and is looking to get> going> on building the landing gear--here is what he asked me to send:> Please quote the diameter and thickness of the 4130 tubing you used tomake> your landing gear. I can find no fraction or guage to translate to the> decimals quoted on Don Pietonpol's plans. Can you also tell me how you> built> pedals for your brakes and rudders. I am doing the front as top humg and> rear> the same as Piet front pedals but floor mount.> > Hope this makes sense and I can get some help for Dad. I monitor yoursite> and print out what I think he would like to read. Thanks, Pat Cooley for> Bud> Cooley________________________________________________________________________________
> > The tubes are 1-3/8" by .079 wall if I remember correctly. (you wouldthink> I should) I built by rudder pedals per plans.> Steve e.> > -----Original Message-----> Patcoolnet(at)aol.com> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 1999 10:43 AM> To: Pietenpol Discussion> Subject: Re: Landing gear> > > Hi There! I am sending this for my Dad, so you might have to readbetween> the> lines--He has the fusalage about done for his Piet and is looking to get> going> on building the landing gear--here is what he asked me to send:> Please quote the diameter and thickness of the 4130 tubing you used tomake> your landing gear. I can find no fraction or guage to translate to the> decimals quoted on Don Pietonpol's plans. Can you also tell me how you> built> pedals for your brakes and rudders. I am doing the front as top humg and> rear> the same as Piet front pedals but floor mount.> > Hope this makes sense and I can get some help for Dad. I monitor yoursite> and print out what I think he would like to read. Thanks, Pat Cooley for> Bud> Cooley________________________________________________________________________________
> Re: Landing gear
Original Posted By: Bill Talbert
> > The tubes are 1-3/8" by .079 wall if I remember correctly. (you wouldthink> I should) I built by rudder pedals per plans.> Steve e.> > -----Original Message-----> Patcoolnet(at)aol.com> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 1999 10:43 AM> To: Pietenpol Discussion> Subject: Re: Landing gear> > > Hi There! I am sending this for my Dad, so you might have to readbetween> the> lines--He has the fusalage about done for his Piet and is looking to get> going> on building the landing gear--here is what he asked me to send:> Please quote the diameter and thickness of the 4130 tubing you used tomake> your landing gear. I can find no fraction or guage to translate to the> decimals quoted on Don Pietonpol's plans. Can you also tell me how you> built> pedals for your brakes and rudders. I am doing the front as top humg and> rear> the same as Piet front pedals but floor mount.> > Hope this makes sense and I can get some help for Dad. I monitor yoursite> and print out what I think he would like to read. Thanks, Pat Cooley for> Bud> Cooley________________________________________________________________________________
> > The tubes are 1-3/8" by .079 wall if I remember correctly. (you wouldthink> I should) I built by rudder pedals per plans.> Steve e.> > -----Original Message-----> Patcoolnet(at)aol.com> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 1999 10:43 AM> To: Pietenpol Discussion> Subject: Re: Landing gear> > > Hi There! I am sending this for my Dad, so you might have to readbetween> the> lines--He has the fusalage about done for his Piet and is looking to get> going> on building the landing gear--here is what he asked me to send:> Please quote the diameter and thickness of the 4130 tubing you used tomake> your landing gear. I can find no fraction or guage to translate to the> decimals quoted on Don Pietonpol's plans. Can you also tell me how you> built> pedals for your brakes and rudders. I am doing the front as top humg and> rear> the same as Piet front pedals but floor mount.> > Hope this makes sense and I can get some help for Dad. I monitor yoursite> and print out what I think he would like to read. Thanks, Pat Cooley for> Bud> Cooley________________________________________________________________________________