Original Posted By: John Kuhfahl
Congrats Don & Barry for your very memorable Day 8/15/2011'You could get great practice with crosswind landings with Irene.Pieti LowellRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 19:35:20 -0500Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tail Brace Wires--Again
Pietenpol-List: Tail Brace Wires--Again
RE: Pietenpol-List: Tail Brace Wires--Again
Original Posted By: John Kuhfahl
I made my first set out of 3/32" cable and turnbuckles. I didn't like the way teylooked...too big and clunky. Once I saw tail brace wires made out of 1/16"cables and turnbuckles, I decided to go that route. Its lighter and much nicerlooking. 1/8" cable as well as 3/32" is overkill. There are many Piets out therewith 1/16" cable flying safely.Rick Schreiber----- Original Message -----
I made my first set out of 3/32" cable and turnbuckles. I didn't like the way teylooked...too big and clunky. Once I saw tail brace wires made out of 1/16"cables and turnbuckles, I decided to go that route. Its lighter and much nicerlooking. 1/8" cable as well as 3/32" is overkill. There are many Piets out therewith 1/16" cable flying safely.Rick Schreiber----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Tail Brace Wires--Again
Original Posted By: John Kuhfahl
I have 1/16 cable for tail bracingRated for 480 Lbs, figure the wood will break long for the Cable willHansNX15KV-----Original Message-----
I have 1/16 cable for tail bracingRated for 480 Lbs, figure the wood will break long for the Cable willHansNX15KV-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Tail Brace Wires--Again
Original Posted By: John Kuhfahl
3/32 cable and -16 turnbuckles work well. Using swaged MS cable fittings instead of thimbles and Nicopress sleeves will give a nicely finished look.14 ga. hard wire has a tensile strength of approximately 700 - 750 pounds. 1/16" cable has a tensile strength of 480 pounds.As Rick Schreiber mentioned, there are many Piets flying successfully with 1/16" cable. Keep in mind the tail is constantly being battered about in the propwash.Greg Cardinal ----- Original Message -----
3/32 cable and -16 turnbuckles work well. Using swaged MS cable fittings instead of thimbles and Nicopress sleeves will give a nicely finished look.14 ga. hard wire has a tensile strength of approximately 700 - 750 pounds. 1/16" cable has a tensile strength of 480 pounds.As Rick Schreiber mentioned, there are many Piets flying successfully with 1/16" cable. Keep in mind the tail is constantly being battered about in the propwash.Greg Cardinal ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Tail Brace Wires--Again
Original Posted By: John Kuhfahl
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Tail Brace Wires--Again
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Tail Brace Wires--Again
Pietenpol-List: Re: Tail Brace Wires--Again
Original Posted By: "Jerry Dotson"
Let's see... Dan is 1'7" so that windscreen mus be about 17'4". helspersew(at)aol.com wrote:> Scale the photo?--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Tail Brace Wires--Again
Let's see... Dan is 1'7" so that windscreen mus be about 17'4". helspersew(at)aol.com wrote:> Scale the photo?--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Tail Brace Wires--Again
Original Posted By: "Jack"
Dave all the cable swagers I have seen were a hydraulic device either hand pumpedor electric.--------Jerry Dotson59 Daniel Johnson RdBaker, FL 32531Started building NX510JD July, 2009now covering21" wheelsLycoming O-235Jay Anderson CloudCars propRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Dave all the cable swagers I have seen were a hydraulic device either hand pumpedor electric.--------Jerry Dotson59 Daniel Johnson RdBaker, FL 32531Started building NX510JD July, 2009now covering21" wheelsLycoming O-235Jay Anderson CloudCars propRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Tail Brace Wires--Again
Original Posted By: John Kuhfahl
No reserve...No smoke
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... OTORS:1123 JackDSM________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 19:23:36 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Tail Brace Wires--Again
No reserve...No smoke
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... OTORS:1123 JackDSM________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 19:23:36 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Tail Brace Wires--AgainRe: Pietenpol-List: Re: Tail Brace Wires--Again
Original Posted By: mark lee
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Tail Brace Wires--Again
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Tail Brace Wires--Again
Pietenpol-List: Re: Tail Brace Wires--Again
Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
I think that Dave Aldrich was referring to the type fitting shown in this picture.The swagers you guys are talking about is for Nicopress sleeves made fromcopper or aluminum. It takes serious pressure to swage that stainless MS fitting.Correct me if I am wrong.--------Jerry Dotson59 Daniel Johnson RdBaker, FL 32531Started building NX510JD July, 2009now covering21" wheelsLycoming O-235Jay Anderson CloudCars propRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/ms21 ... __________
I think that Dave Aldrich was referring to the type fitting shown in this picture.The swagers you guys are talking about is for Nicopress sleeves made fromcopper or aluminum. It takes serious pressure to swage that stainless MS fitting.Correct me if I am wrong.--------Jerry Dotson59 Daniel Johnson RdBaker, FL 32531Started building NX510JD July, 2009now covering21" wheelsLycoming O-235Jay Anderson CloudCars propRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/ms21 ... __________
> Re: Pietenpol-List: Tail Brace Wires--Again
Original Posted By: Jim Markle
> No turnbuckles? John> > On Mon, Aug 29, 2011> at 8:36 AM, Michael Perez > wrote:> > I am using 1/16th cable with swaged on> fittings. (still building)> > Michael Perez> > Karetaker Aero> > www.karetakeraero.com> > > > > "> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List> tp://forums.matronics.com> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution> > > > > -- > John Kuhfahl, Lt Col USAF (Ret), > President, KUHLCOUPER LLC> > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:03:38 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
> No turnbuckles? John> > On Mon, Aug 29, 2011> at 8:36 AM, Michael Perez > wrote:> > I am using 1/16th cable with swaged on> fittings. (still building)> > Michael Perez> > Karetaker Aero> > www.karetakeraero.com> > > > > "> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List> tp://forums.matronics.com> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution> > > > > -- > John Kuhfahl, Lt Col USAF (Ret), > President, KUHLCOUPER LLC> > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:03:38 -0500 (GMT-05:00)