Original Posted By: Michael Perez
I'm not up on the A-65, but if it's like the Corvair in this respect, people eitherbuy or hand-make a tool to get behind the head and tap them out. Picturea piece of scrap tubing that fits closely around the narrow part of the tube,but butts up against the flared part of the valve tube that's in the head. Fita piece of scrap to that piece that angles undeneath the block, at as shallowan angle as you can muster, and braze it on. Tap gently on the end of the bazed-onpiece in the direction of exit with a light hammer.Jim Ash________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 15:32:00 -0700 (PDT)
Pietenpol-List: antenna for handheld
> Pietenpol-List: Push Rod Tubes
Original Posted By: Jim Ash
http://www.dalemfg.com/dale_023.htmlook at tool #T-4 ; same idea.Jim-----Original Message----->From: Jim Ash >Sent: Mar 20, 2012 6:20 PM>To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Push Rod Tubes>>>I'm not up on the A-65, but if it's like the Corvair in this respect, people either buy or hand-make a tool to get behind the head and tap them out. Picture a piece of scrap tubing that fits closely around the narrow part of the tube, but butts up against the flared part of the valve tube that's in the head. Fit a piece of scrap to that piece that angles undeneath the block, at as shallow an angle as you can muster, and braze it on. Tap gently on the end of the bazed-on piece in the direction of exit with a light hammer.>>Jim Ash>>>-----Original Message----- >From: Jack Phillips >Sent: Mar 20, 2012 5:34 PM >To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com >Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Push Rod Tubes >>>Why do you want to remove them?=C2- They generally get loose and can be pulled out from the bottom (don=99t try to drive them out =93 that will just mushroom the head, making it more difficult to remove), but I can=99t imagine why you would want to remove one.> >Jack Phillips>NX899JP>Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia>(Where a big thunderstorm is sitting on top of us, preventing me from flying my Pietenpol)> >>>From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Perez>Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 10:25 AM>To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Push Rod Tubes> >>>Is there a good method used for removing the push rod tubes on an A-65? I want a tube removed, but it seems anything I would try would just mushroom out the end...making it more difficult to remove from the head. I thought about trying to hammer in, or bend in, the top of the tube some to release it.=C2- I believe there is a bead a little further down which is still retaining it.>>Replacing the tube and re-beading the end is a non-event.>>Michael Perez>Karetaker Aero>www.karetakeraero.com=C2- >tS WEB FORUMS -on Web Site -=C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin.________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 18:42:25 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
http://www.dalemfg.com/dale_023.htmlook at tool #T-4 ; same idea.Jim-----Original Message----->From: Jim Ash >Sent: Mar 20, 2012 6:20 PM>To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Push Rod Tubes>>>I'm not up on the A-65, but if it's like the Corvair in this respect, people either buy or hand-make a tool to get behind the head and tap them out. Picture a piece of scrap tubing that fits closely around the narrow part of the tube, but butts up against the flared part of the valve tube that's in the head. Fit a piece of scrap to that piece that angles undeneath the block, at as shallow an angle as you can muster, and braze it on. Tap gently on the end of the bazed-on piece in the direction of exit with a light hammer.>>Jim Ash>>>-----Original Message----- >From: Jack Phillips >Sent: Mar 20, 2012 5:34 PM >To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com >Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Push Rod Tubes >>>Why do you want to remove them?=C2- They generally get loose and can be pulled out from the bottom (don=99t try to drive them out =93 that will just mushroom the head, making it more difficult to remove), but I can=99t imagine why you would want to remove one.> >Jack Phillips>NX899JP>Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia>(Where a big thunderstorm is sitting on top of us, preventing me from flying my Pietenpol)> >>>From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Perez>Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 10:25 AM>To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Push Rod Tubes> >>>Is there a good method used for removing the push rod tubes on an A-65? I want a tube removed, but it seems anything I would try would just mushroom out the end...making it more difficult to remove from the head. I thought about trying to hammer in, or bend in, the top of the tube some to release it.=C2- I believe there is a bead a little further down which is still retaining it.>>Replacing the tube and re-beading the end is a non-event.>>Michael Perez>Karetaker Aero>www.karetakeraero.com=C2- >tS WEB FORUMS -on Web Site -=C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin.________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 18:42:25 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
> Pietenpol-List: Push Rod Tubes
Original Posted By: "Clif Dawson"
http://www.dalemfg.com/dale_023.htmlook at tool #T-4 ; same idea.Jim-----Original Message----->From: Jim Ash >Sent: Mar 20, 2012 6:20 PM>To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Push Rod Tubes>>>I'm not up on the A-65, but if it's like the Corvair in this respect, people eitherbuy or hand-make a tool to get behind the head and tap them out. Picturea piece of scrap tubing that fits closely around the narrow part of the tube,but butts up against the flared part of the valve tube that's in the head. Fita piece of scrap to that piece that angles undeneath the block, at as shallowan angle as you can muster, and braze it on. Tap gently on the end of the bazed-onpiece in the direction of exit with a light hammer.>>Jim Ash>>>-----Original Message----- >From: Jack Phillips >Sent: Mar 20, 2012 5:34 PM >To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com >Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Push Rod Tubes >>>Why do you want to remove them? They generally get loose and can be pulled outfrom the bottom (dont try to drive them out that will just mushroom the head,making it more difficult to remove), but I cant imagine why you would wantto remove one.> >Jack Phillips>NX899JP>Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia>(Where a big thunderstorm is sitting on top of us, preventing me from flying myPietenpol)> >>>From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Perez>Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 10:25 AM>To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Push Rod Tubes> >>>Is there a good method used for removing the push rod tubes on an A-65? I wanta tube removed, but it seems anything I would try would just mushroom out theend...making it more difficult to remove from the head. I thought about tryingto hammer in, or bend in, the top of the tube some to release it. I believethere is a bead a little further down which is still retaining it.>>Replacing the tube and re-beading the end is a non-event.>>Michael Perez>Karetaker Aero>www.karetakeraero.com > target="_blank" href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List" http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpobsp; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -nbsp; ://www.matronics.com/contribution" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com=================________________________________________________________________________________
http://www.dalemfg.com/dale_023.htmlook at tool #T-4 ; same idea.Jim-----Original Message----->From: Jim Ash >Sent: Mar 20, 2012 6:20 PM>To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Push Rod Tubes>>>I'm not up on the A-65, but if it's like the Corvair in this respect, people eitherbuy or hand-make a tool to get behind the head and tap them out. Picturea piece of scrap tubing that fits closely around the narrow part of the tube,but butts up against the flared part of the valve tube that's in the head. Fita piece of scrap to that piece that angles undeneath the block, at as shallowan angle as you can muster, and braze it on. Tap gently on the end of the bazed-onpiece in the direction of exit with a light hammer.>>Jim Ash>>>-----Original Message----- >From: Jack Phillips >Sent: Mar 20, 2012 5:34 PM >To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com >Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Push Rod Tubes >>>Why do you want to remove them? They generally get loose and can be pulled outfrom the bottom (dont try to drive them out that will just mushroom the head,making it more difficult to remove), but I cant imagine why you would wantto remove one.> >Jack Phillips>NX899JP>Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia>(Where a big thunderstorm is sitting on top of us, preventing me from flying myPietenpol)> >>>From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Perez>Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 10:25 AM>To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Push Rod Tubes> >>>Is there a good method used for removing the push rod tubes on an A-65? I wanta tube removed, but it seems anything I would try would just mushroom out theend...making it more difficult to remove from the head. I thought about tryingto hammer in, or bend in, the top of the tube some to release it. I believethere is a bead a little further down which is still retaining it.>>Replacing the tube and re-beading the end is a non-event.>>Michael Perez>Karetaker Aero>www.karetakeraero.com > target="_blank" href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List" http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpobsp; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -nbsp; ://www.matronics.com/contribution" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com=================________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: antenna for handheld
Original Posted By: Woodflier(at)aol.com
Hey all,I think I'd like to put a little permanent antenna inside the fuse that Icould hook my handheld to.Don't want to get into another long drawn out project, so. which commonlyavailable antenna (ACS) would work with a standard handheld?? I thinkadapting the handheld antenna to plug into a coax cable is easy, and Ialready have ground plane because I have an aluminum inspection panel underthe fuse.I'm a moron when it comes to electronics so keep it simple please.ThanksDouwe________________________________________________________________________________
Hey all,I think I'd like to put a little permanent antenna inside the fuse that Icould hook my handheld to.Don't want to get into another long drawn out project, so. which commonlyavailable antenna (ACS) would work with a standard handheld?? I thinkadapting the handheld antenna to plug into a coax cable is easy, and Ialready have ground plane because I have an aluminum inspection panel underthe fuse.I'm a moron when it comes to electronics so keep it simple please.ThanksDouwe________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: antenna for handheld
Original Posted By: Jim Markle
Hi DouweJust took a quick look at the ACS listings and it looks like most of them haveabout a 20 inch mounting height requirement (a function of the polarization ofthe signals) so It my be a bit tight or it might need to stick up into the turtledeck. The AV 534 is basically a kit form of the antennae you find in DIYpublications and you can cut the threaded rod as needed for clearance. Sincethere's no air load, you can just make a small aluminum "stand" for any of themon your inspection cover so all the cabling is internal. DaveRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 10:52:56 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Hi DouweJust took a quick look at the ACS listings and it looks like most of them haveabout a 20 inch mounting height requirement (a function of the polarization ofthe signals) so It my be a bit tight or it might need to stick up into the turtledeck. The AV 534 is basically a kit form of the antennae you find in DIYpublications and you can cut the threaded rod as needed for clearance. Sincethere's no air load, you can just make a small aluminum "stand" for any of themon your inspection cover so all the cabling is internal. DaveRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 10:52:56 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
> Pietenpol-List: Re: antenna for handheld
Original Posted By: Jim Ash
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: antenna for handheld
Original Posted By: John Kuhfahl
Jim, you are such a radio nerd. [Laughing] dah dah... di dah... di dah dit... dah di dah--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 10:23:35 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: antenna for handheld
Jim, you are such a radio nerd. [Laughing] dah dah... di dah... di dah dit... dah di dah--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 10:23:35 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: antenna for handheld
RE: Pietenpol-List: antenna for handheld
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
DouweSome ideas from the Flybaby website.http://www.bowersflybaby.com/stories/an ... ollowmaybe some more information in here toohttp://www.bowersflybaby.com/tech/velcro.htmlChrisSacramento, CaWestcoastpiet.com _____
DouweSome ideas from the Flybaby website.http://www.bowersflybaby.com/stories/an ... ollowmaybe some more information in here toohttp://www.bowersflybaby.com/tech/velcro.htmlChrisSacramento, CaWestcoastpiet.com _____
Pietenpol-List: antenna for handheld
Original Posted By: Jim Ash
Pietenpol-List: Re: Inst. Panel design
Original Posted By: "aerocarjake"
An SWR meter is a handy tool indeed, but if one of your friends has an antennaanalyzer, it certainly makes life a lot easier. With an SWR meter you will need to connect it between your transceiver and yourantenna (i.e. two lengths of feed line), also, you'll have to transmit usingyour radio in order to make the meter give an indication, which isn't the bestthing to do as it can be hard on your radio if you have a bad match or worse,a short. Not only that, but most of the SWR meters that are laying around aredesigned to operate in the 3-30MHz range... CB type stuff. Just something tobe aware of as the wrong peice of equipment will just cause you fits.If you have access to an antenna analyzer, use it. They are much more effectivein troubleshooting feed lines and antennas that an SWR meter. Chances are goodthat a local ham radio club has one as they aren't very expensive. This pieceof equipment will allow you to test your feed line and antenna separatelyAND as a complete system, which can really help in troubleshooting and tuning.You will not need extra lengths of feed line as this piece of equipment connectsin place of your transceiver. Not only that, but you can easily sweep theband (108-137MHz) in order to determine the bandwidth of your antenna... believeit or not, an antenna that works reasonably well on one frequency may bea very poor resonator just a few kilohertz away. If you are using a NAV/COMtype radio, bandwidth is more important as you would like to utilize the lowerfrequencies (108-117.975MHz) as well as the voice segment (118-137MHz). Ideallyyou would shoot for tuning your antenna in the middle of the band (117.5MHz)and hope to have a reasonable SWR at the edge of the band (108MHZ and 137MHz).One thing that may help is using a larger diameter rod for you antenna...theoretically speaking, a larger driven element has a broader bandwidth thata smaller diameter (i.e. a 1/8" rod would make a better resonater than a 1/16"rod). Anyhow, hope some of this helps. --------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Inst. Panel design
An SWR meter is a handy tool indeed, but if one of your friends has an antennaanalyzer, it certainly makes life a lot easier. With an SWR meter you will need to connect it between your transceiver and yourantenna (i.e. two lengths of feed line), also, you'll have to transmit usingyour radio in order to make the meter give an indication, which isn't the bestthing to do as it can be hard on your radio if you have a bad match or worse,a short. Not only that, but most of the SWR meters that are laying around aredesigned to operate in the 3-30MHz range... CB type stuff. Just something tobe aware of as the wrong peice of equipment will just cause you fits.If you have access to an antenna analyzer, use it. They are much more effectivein troubleshooting feed lines and antennas that an SWR meter. Chances are goodthat a local ham radio club has one as they aren't very expensive. This pieceof equipment will allow you to test your feed line and antenna separatelyAND as a complete system, which can really help in troubleshooting and tuning.You will not need extra lengths of feed line as this piece of equipment connectsin place of your transceiver. Not only that, but you can easily sweep theband (108-137MHz) in order to determine the bandwidth of your antenna... believeit or not, an antenna that works reasonably well on one frequency may bea very poor resonator just a few kilohertz away. If you are using a NAV/COMtype radio, bandwidth is more important as you would like to utilize the lowerfrequencies (108-117.975MHz) as well as the voice segment (118-137MHz). Ideallyyou would shoot for tuning your antenna in the middle of the band (117.5MHz)and hope to have a reasonable SWR at the edge of the band (108MHZ and 137MHz).One thing that may help is using a larger diameter rod for you antenna...theoretically speaking, a larger driven element has a broader bandwidth thata smaller diameter (i.e. a 1/8" rod would make a better resonater than a 1/16"rod). Anyhow, hope some of this helps. --------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Inst. Panel design
Pietenpol-List: Re: antenna for handheld
Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
I chose to create burnished stainless for the panel with wood veneer as the inlay- to be different and also so that there might be less glare/reflection ona sunny day from the center area of the panel...--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/inst ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: antenna for handheld
I chose to create burnished stainless for the panel with wood veneer as the inlay- to be different and also so that there might be less glare/reflection ona sunny day from the center area of the panel...--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/inst ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: antenna for handheld
Original Posted By: Gerry Holland
Hey, good idea John! I'd be glad to bring it along if anyone would like to useit. It really just takes a second to plug in and run a simple analysis. Maybe we can have a workshop... how to vacuum bag your antenna!--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Hey, good idea John! I'd be glad to bring it along if anyone would like to useit. It really just takes a second to plug in and run a simple analysis. Maybe we can have a workshop... how to vacuum bag your antenna!--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: antenna for handheld
Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
I've used those aerials on two Aircraft and they were or are a great success.You still need some form of ground plane. On a 3 Axis Microlight I used to ownI just made a small bracket and bolted that to the main aluminium tube.Great value and work well.RegardsGerry________________________________________________________________________________
I've used those aerials on two Aircraft and they were or are a great success.You still need some form of ground plane. On a 3 Axis Microlight I used to ownI just made a small bracket and bolted that to the main aluminium tube.Great value and work well.RegardsGerry________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Push Rod Tubes
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Why do you want to remove them? They generally get loose and can be pulledout from the bottom (don't try to drive them out - that will just mushroomthe head, making it more difficult to remove), but I can't imagine why youwould want to remove one.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia(Where a big thunderstorm is sitting on top of us, preventing me from flyingmy Pietenpol) _____
Why do you want to remove them? They generally get loose and can be pulledout from the bottom (don't try to drive them out - that will just mushroomthe head, making it more difficult to remove), but I can't imagine why youwould want to remove one.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia(Where a big thunderstorm is sitting on top of us, preventing me from flyingmy Pietenpol) _____
Pietenpol-List: Push Rod Tubes
Original Posted By: Jim Ash
Pietenpol-List: Push Rod Tubes
Original Posted By: Jim Ash
Re: Pietenpol-List: Landing Gear V question
Original Posted By: "John Franklin"
Yes and Yes. I rebuilt a Piper PA22 and made it into a PA20 (taildragger). The landing gear was done that way -- a member joining the two legs at the top of the V and then it was covered with fabric, just like one of the tail members. Chuck----- Original Message -----
Yes and Yes. I rebuilt a Piper PA22 and made it into a PA20 (taildragger). The landing gear was done that way -- a member joining the two legs at the top of the V and then it was covered with fabric, just like one of the tail members. Chuck----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Landing Gear V question
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Re: Pietenpol-List: Inst. Panel design
Original Posted By: bradandlinda tds.net
Here's mine. The CB's on the right will be mountedthere, someday, soon. In the upper left the twoswitches on top of the cowl are the mag switches.Second one shows my Terra radio installation. ----- Original Message -----
Here's mine. The CB's on the right will be mountedthere, someday, soon. In the upper left the twoswitches on top of the cowl are the mag switches.Second one shows my Terra radio installation. ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Inst. Panel design
Original Posted By: Jim Boyer