Original Posted By: "bubbleboy"
Like I mentioned in my other post, I'm a new builder hoping to start this fall.- Question for the group is...where do most people start?- Wing ribs?- Empenage?- I was thinking of starting with the tail, mostly because I was thinking about building an RV-8 a while back ($!), and that just seems to be where you start, so I carried that thought over to the Piet.- Any input appreciated...--Skagit out 8)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 0#370000le, List Admin.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Model A & Model T
Pietenpol-List: Model A & Model T
Pietenpol-List: Re: Model A & Model T
Original Posted By: "tools"
Just wondering, are there any differences between the engine in the Model T & ModelA Ford? I had a discovery today of 2 Model T chassis's with engines and havebeen told the guy who owns these has 21 of them. Not sure if they are allModel T or if he has any model A engines. Are they the same engine?Scotty--------Tamworth, AustraliaBuilding a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camperwww.scottyspietenpol.comRudder, Vert stab, Elevators, Hor Stab and Ribs built...About to start fuselage...Corvairengine at Roy's Garage waiting to be modified.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Model A & Model T
Just wondering, are there any differences between the engine in the Model T & ModelA Ford? I had a discovery today of 2 Model T chassis's with engines and havebeen told the guy who owns these has 21 of them. Not sure if they are allModel T or if he has any model A engines. Are they the same engine?Scotty--------Tamworth, AustraliaBuilding a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camperwww.scottyspietenpol.comRudder, Vert stab, Elevators, Hor Stab and Ribs built...About to start fuselage...Corvairengine at Roy's Garage waiting to be modified.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Model A & Model T
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
The most pertinent difference is that it's about half the horsepower. Still apretty nice find, just probably not the best choice for a Piet! Might be greattrading stock to get a Model A engine if that's what you're looking for. ToolsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 06:15:33 -0700 (PDT)
The most pertinent difference is that it's about half the horsepower. Still apretty nice find, just probably not the best choice for a Piet! Might be greattrading stock to get a Model A engine if that's what you're looking for. ToolsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 06:15:33 -0700 (PDT)
Pietenpol-List: Re: St. Croix Aerial Opinions?
Original Posted By: "Skagit"
I believe the Model T engine could be used to power a Scout (you know, the OtherPietenpol) - not many of those around - it would be a unique project.Kip GardnerOn Apr 4, 2012, at 8:50 AM, tools wrote:> > The most pertinent difference is that it's about half the horsepower. Stilla pretty nice find, just probably not the best choice for a Piet! Might be greattrading stock to get a Model A engine if that's what you're looking for. > > Tools> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 016#370016> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: St. Croix Aerial Opinions?
I believe the Model T engine could be used to power a Scout (you know, the OtherPietenpol) - not many of those around - it would be a unique project.Kip GardnerOn Apr 4, 2012, at 8:50 AM, tools wrote:> > The most pertinent difference is that it's about half the horsepower. Stilla pretty nice find, just probably not the best choice for a Piet! Might be greattrading stock to get a Model A engine if that's what you're looking for. > > Tools> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 016#370016> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: St. Croix Aerial Opinions?
Re: Pietenpol-List: Model A & Model T
Original Posted By: bubbleboy
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Model A & Model Tstock model T engine 20 HPStock Model A engine 40 HP Stock Model B engine 50HP (improved Model A)----- Original Message -----
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Model A & Model Tstock model T engine 20 HPStock Model A engine 40 HP Stock Model B engine 50HP (improved Model A)----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Model A & Model T
Original Posted By: "bubbleboy"
Hi Skagit - Is that your first name or your last? We love real names.Welcome to the world of Piets. Most of us who have successfully built and flownPietenpols have stuck pretty close to the plans. It seems that most peoplewho fly a lot have planes that are pretty close to the original. I can only thinkof two Aerials that I've seen pictures of in completed form. That's an indicator.I also think you'd be on your own in terms of design support, knowingwhat little I know about Chad Wille.If you really want a biplane then you may want to look at a design that startedlife as a biplane. Or do like some of us: build a Piet and make the next projecta biplane.Again, welcome.--------Kevin "Axel" PurteeNX899KPAustin/San Marcos, TXRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Model A & Model T
Hi Skagit - Is that your first name or your last? We love real names.Welcome to the world of Piets. Most of us who have successfully built and flownPietenpols have stuck pretty close to the plans. It seems that most peoplewho fly a lot have planes that are pretty close to the original. I can only thinkof two Aerials that I've seen pictures of in completed form. That's an indicator.I also think you'd be on your own in terms of design support, knowingwhat little I know about Chad Wille.If you really want a biplane then you may want to look at a design that startedlife as a biplane. Or do like some of us: build a Piet and make the next projecta biplane.Again, welcome.--------Kevin "Axel" PurteeNX899KPAustin/San Marcos, TXRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Model A & Model T
Pietenpol-List: Re: Model A & Model T
Original Posted By: "bubbleboy"
Hiya Tools...thank you for that! that is good to know. How do you tell the differencethen? Is it serial numbers? Fords are pretty rare here in Australia soto find these is great! I havent spoken to the guy in person yet but have hiscontact details. One day a Scout might be nice to build with a Ford engine.Scotty--------Tamworth, AustraliaBuilding a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camperwww.scottyspietenpol.comRudder, Vert stab, Elevators, Hor Stab and Ribs built...About to start fuselage...Corvairengine at Roy's Garage waiting to be modified.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Model A & Model T
Hiya Tools...thank you for that! that is good to know. How do you tell the differencethen? Is it serial numbers? Fords are pretty rare here in Australia soto find these is great! I havent spoken to the guy in person yet but have hiscontact details. One day a Scout might be nice to build with a Ford engine.Scotty--------Tamworth, AustraliaBuilding a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camperwww.scottyspietenpol.comRudder, Vert stab, Elevators, Hor Stab and Ribs built...About to start fuselage...Corvairengine at Roy's Garage waiting to be modified.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Model A & Model T
Original Posted By: "Douwe Blumberg"
Thanks guys. That is a big Hp difference! I need to speak with the guy and seewhat he has.Scotty--------Tamworth, AustraliaBuilding a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camperwww.scottyspietenpol.comRudder, Vert stab, Elevators, Hor Stab and Ribs built...About to start fuselage...Corvairengine at Roy's Garage waiting to be modified.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Thanks guys. That is a big Hp difference! I need to speak with the guy and seewhat he has.Scotty--------Tamworth, AustraliaBuilding a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camperwww.scottyspietenpol.comRudder, Vert stab, Elevators, Hor Stab and Ribs built...About to start fuselage...Corvairengine at Roy's Garage waiting to be modified.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Model A & Model T
Original Posted By:> steven.d.dortch(at)us.army.mil
One easy way to tell the difference it the A has provision for a water pump on the front of the block=2C the T did not use a water pump from the factory. The A has a bell housing and a flywheel then a unbolt able stick shift transmission=2C the T has a oil pan that houses the engine and transmission and has three petals to control the gears. Vic
One easy way to tell the difference it the A has provision for a water pump on the front of the block=2C the T did not use a water pump from the factory. The A has a bell housing and a flywheel then a unbolt able stick shift transmission=2C the T has a oil pan that houses the engine and transmission and has three petals to control the gears. Vic
> Re: Pietenpol-List: Model A & Model T
Original Posted By:> bubbleboy
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Model A & Model T> > > stock model T engine 20 HP> Stock Model A engine 40 HP > Stock Model B engine 50HP (improved Model A)> > ----- Original Message -----
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Model A & Model T> > > stock model T engine 20 HP> Stock Model A engine 40 HP > Stock Model B engine 50HP (improved Model A)> > ----- Original Message -----
> Pietenpol-List: Model A & Model T
Original Posted By: Oscar Zuniga
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Model A & Model T> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> > > > > > Just wondering=2C are there any differences between the engine in the Model T & Model A Ford? I had a discovery today of 2 Model T chassis's with> > engines and have been told the guy who owns these has 21 of them. > > Not sure if they are all Model T or if he has any model A engines. > > Are they the same engine?> > > > Scotty> > > > --------> > Tamworth=2C Australia> > Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper> > > > www.scottyspietenpol.com> > > > Rudder=2C Vert stab=2C Elevators=2C Hor Stab and Ribs built...About to> > start fuselage...Corvair engine at Roy's Garage waiting to be > > modified.> > > > > > > > Read this topic online here:> > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 012#370012> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================================> > > ________________________________________________________________________________
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Model A & Model T> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> > > > > > Just wondering=2C are there any differences between the engine in the Model T & Model A Ford? I had a discovery today of 2 Model T chassis's with> > engines and have been told the guy who owns these has 21 of them. > > Not sure if they are all Model T or if he has any model A engines. > > Are they the same engine?> > > > Scotty> > > > --------> > Tamworth=2C Australia> > Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper> > > > www.scottyspietenpol.com> > > > Rudder=2C Vert stab=2C Elevators=2C Hor Stab and Ribs built...About to> > start fuselage...Corvair engine at Roy's Garage waiting to be > > modified.> > > > > > > > Read this topic online here:> > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 012#370012> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================================> > > ________________________________________________________________________________