Original Posted By: "John Francis"
I worked all weekend on finish taping my wing.. got the last couple of stitchesdone saturday morning.I'm use the ekobond and i like it a lot... its easy to work with and no smellsor MEK.. you may notice its not blue.. i got it in the linen color.. mostly becausei just didn't like the blue.taping took longer than i thought ... and if you guys could have seen my flip thewing yesterday by myself.....wow... i don't recommend it.jeffhttp://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l593/jfaithbass/IMG_20120805_161617.jpgRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Aileron Piano Hinge
Pietenpol-List: Aileron Piano Hinge
Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
I'm just a little confused here as I am veering from the plans by using a pianohinge for the ailerons. Look at the attached photos and tell me if this is wherethe hinge is located or is it raised to the top of the cap strip when theaileron is cut out? Nothing is mounted yet including the cap strip.--------John FrancisRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc0 ... __________
I'm just a little confused here as I am veering from the plans by using a pianohinge for the ailerons. Look at the attached photos and tell me if this is wherethe hinge is located or is it raised to the top of the cap strip when theaileron is cut out? Nothing is mounted yet including the cap strip.--------John FrancisRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc0 ... __________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Aileron Piano Hinge
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
John, the ailerons are designed to have the hinge line flush with the top ofthe wing. I don't see any reason why your location won't work, but it's notthe way the plane was designed.Here are a couple of photos of mine, since I also used piano hinges:Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia-----Original Message-----
John, the ailerons are designed to have the hinge line flush with the top ofthe wing. I don't see any reason why your location won't work, but it's notthe way the plane was designed.Here are a couple of photos of mine, since I also used piano hinges:Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Aileron Piano Hinge
Original Posted By: "John Francis"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: aileron piano hinge placementJohn-- many of us have been flying with aileron piano hinges for many years with great success. Mount the top of your hinge flush with the top of your wing. The top of the hinge is even with the fabricof the wing and aileron. You'll seal the gap that way giving you good aileron control and won't have to use tapesor other methods to seal the aileron gap. Hope this helps, ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aileron Piano Hinge
Subject: Pietenpol-List: aileron piano hinge placementJohn-- many of us have been flying with aileron piano hinges for many years with great success. Mount the top of your hinge flush with the top of your wing. The top of the hinge is even with the fabricof the wing and aileron. You'll seal the gap that way giving you good aileron control and won't have to use tapesor other methods to seal the aileron gap. Hope this helps, ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aileron Piano Hinge
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aileron Piano Hinge
Original Posted By: gboothe5(at)comcast.net
Jack, I understand what you are saying but picturing how this all fits togetheris what has me confused. I was trying to find a picture of an uncovered hingeinstalled. So is my rear aileron spar in the correct position? After cuttingout the aileron the hinge is raised to mount flush with the top surface ofthe wing which exposes the top, rear 1/2 inch of the piano hinge?--------John FrancisRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aileron Piano Hinge
Jack, I understand what you are saying but picturing how this all fits togetheris what has me confused. I was trying to find a picture of an uncovered hingeinstalled. So is my rear aileron spar in the correct position? After cuttingout the aileron the hinge is raised to mount flush with the top surface ofthe wing which exposes the top, rear 1/2 inch of the piano hinge?--------John FrancisRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aileron Piano Hinge
Pietenpol-List: Re: Aileron Piano Hinge
Original Posted By: "skipgadd(at)earthlink.net"
So I add 1/4" by 1/4" filler strip on the tops of both aileron beams? These thensandwich the top of the piano hinge....correct?--------John FrancisRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
So I add 1/4" by 1/4" filler strip on the tops of both aileron beams? These thensandwich the top of the piano hinge....correct?--------John FrancisRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aileron Piano Hinge
Original Posted By: John Francis
Yes.------Original Message------
Yes.------Original Message------
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aileron Piano Hinge
Original Posted By: "John Francis"
No it doesn't! The rear half of the piano hinge bolts to the aileron. The knuckle of the hinge is the only thing that shows with the hinge attached to both the wing and the aileron. C----- Original Message -----
No it doesn't! The rear half of the piano hinge bolts to the aileron. The knuckle of the hinge is the only thing that shows with the hinge attached to both the wing and the aileron. C----- Original Message -----
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aileron Piano Hinge
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
John here are some shots...http://textors.com/Ailerons_003.jpg http://textors.com/Ailerons_002.jpg http://textors.com/9-25-08_003.jpgJack TextorDSMNX1929T-----Original Message-----
John here are some shots...http://textors.com/Ailerons_003.jpg http://textors.com/Ailerons_002.jpg http://textors.com/9-25-08_003.jpgJack TextorDSMNX1929T-----Original Message-----
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aileron Piano Hinge
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
John,I don't have any really clear pictures showing the aileron hinges beforecovering, but here is the best I've got: In this picture you can only see one of the piano hinges installed. I mademy hinges in sections to allow the wing to flex without binding the hinges -a suggestion from Tony Bingelis that turns out to be totally unnecessary.Many Piet builders have installed their hinges in one continuous 6' length,which is much easier to install.Anyway, this picture shows the filler strips you need to add between theribs on the aileron spars. The piano hinges are installed with one tabbolted to the aft face of the wing's spar and the other bolted to the frontface of the aileron spar, with the hinge pin flush with the top of the wing.Does this make it any clearer for you?Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia-----Original Message-----
John,I don't have any really clear pictures showing the aileron hinges beforecovering, but here is the best I've got: In this picture you can only see one of the piano hinges installed. I mademy hinges in sections to allow the wing to flex without binding the hinges -a suggestion from Tony Bingelis that turns out to be totally unnecessary.Many Piet builders have installed their hinges in one continuous 6' length,which is much easier to install.Anyway, this picture shows the filler strips you need to add between theribs on the aileron spars. The piano hinges are installed with one tabbolted to the aft face of the wing's spar and the other bolted to the frontface of the aileron spar, with the hinge pin flush with the top of the wing.Does this make it any clearer for you?Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Aileron Piano Hinge
Original Posted By: Jim Markle
Pietenpol-List: Re: Aileron Piano Hinge ideas
Original Posted By: "John Francis"
Saw this on the local news this morning about a 90 year old guy who's buildinga Piet in his garage in MN. Nice craftsmanship. The guy is inspiring.http://www.keyc.tv/story/19209104/90-?c ... blePatrick HoytRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aileron Piano Hinge ideas
Saw this on the local news this morning about a 90 year old guy who's buildinga Piet in his garage in MN. Nice craftsmanship. The guy is inspiring.http://www.keyc.tv/story/19209104/90-?c ... blePatrick HoytRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aileron Piano Hinge ideas
Original Posted By: Jim Markle
Jim,First, thanks for pictures. It looks like you used full width capstrip on the rear aileron beam and 1/4" widthcapstrip on the front aileron beam?My kitplane is down for a few days as I received this email from Gary McNeel, theowner after I questioned why the site was down.John: Thank you. I just found out myself. I wrote the site years ago and inadvertentlyleft a way for hackers to inject SQL. This allowed them to overwrite some code.I need to break out the old code and fix the bug. Then deploy. Then put thedatabase back out there. It'll be a few days or so until I can knock it out.Thank you for heads up. Gary McNeelI will look into the spider software once it is back up and running as I have fearsthat some day it may just disappear!--------John FrancisRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 10:02:21 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Jim,First, thanks for pictures. It looks like you used full width capstrip on the rear aileron beam and 1/4" widthcapstrip on the front aileron beam?My kitplane is down for a few days as I received this email from Gary McNeel, theowner after I questioned why the site was down.John: Thank you. I just found out myself. I wrote the site years ago and inadvertentlyleft a way for hackers to inject SQL. This allowed them to overwrite some code.I need to break out the old code and fix the bug. Then deploy. Then put thedatabase back out there. It'll be a few days or so until I can knock it out.Thank you for heads up. Gary McNeelI will look into the spider software once it is back up and running as I have fearsthat some day it may just disappear!--------John FrancisRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 10:02:21 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
> Pietenpol-List: Re: Aileron Piano Hinge ideas
Original Posted By: Dan Yocum