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Original Posted By: "Bill Church"
Yep, I have done some "high level" W&B already..... .....also can't forget the EAA Tech Visits (one scheduled in a couple weeks andwith additional visits as I get closer to flight) .....and the ever phunn FAA paperwork. (It will be registered: N507N )Oh, and the flying to get my skills up.....and the "secret" nose art :-)--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol in Print
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Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-LME0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]"
The December issue of Sport Aviation features an article on the Allen Rudolph Piet.Even made the cover.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/sa12 ... __________
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Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol in Print

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Original Posted By: "biplan53"
Good stuff Mike..... You must be one of the myriad of folks who have been relayingthose comments. I know there is much more to EAA than homebuilts but thatshould always (IMHO) be their core.....!--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol in Print
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Original Posted By: Gerrit-Jan Kaal
You are not the only person who feels this way!!!! I am also in the Biplane Forumand most of them feel the same way. The magazine needs a lot more hands onand homebuilt plane articles.--------Building steel fuselage aircamper.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 08:28:54 +0100Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol in Print
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol in Print

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Original Posted By: "Charles N. Campbell"
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Original Posted By: "taildrags"
Ray 11 gallons in the center section and a cub nose tank which I have not calculated its volume. Know it's overkill...Sent from my iPadJack Textor> On Dec 5, 2014, at 9:46 PM, Ray Krause wrote:> > Jack,> > Beautiful panel! Looks like you might be planning on IFR, how much fuel will you be carrying?> > Nice to see you building again,> > Ray Krause> > Sent from my iPad> >> On Dec 5, 2014, at 2:53 PM, Jack wrote:>> >> Well after a move and about a year, finally getting started on the Piet again. It's been tough finding (and remembering) where everything is and where I left off. Looking forward to moving forward. Excuse the incorrect hardware. Does anybody have a good source for the hardware? Should it be brass?>> >> Thanks!>> >> >>> >> Jack Textor>> >> West Des Moines, IA>> >> >> >> >> > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D> ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol in Print
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Original Posted By: glenschweizer(at)yahoo.com
Jake;Not sure what you have in mind for the nose art for your airplane, but several of us have had very good results working with Dennis Demeter at Avgrafix. http://www.avgrafix.com/ His work is excellent and his prices are reasonable for custom graphics. Matter of fact, Denny is making me some vinyl graphics for the two kayaks that I'm building for my wife and I. Also secret, but I hope to unveil them in time to go paddling next spring. A lot of Piet building skills translate directly over to boat-building, too.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol in Print
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Original Posted By: "Dennis Engelkenjohn"
Hi allI agree with points made about changes at EAA. They've (we've) become more andmore corporate over the years. I don't like the fact that 6 figure aircraftare promoted or reviewed either. I think a lot of it stems from people wantinginstant airplane,quick build, high performance stuff which is way beyond many(my) budgets. On the other hand, EAA has led the way to many positive changes as far as FAAregs regarding GA. Also, where else can I get assistance from a recognizedTech. Counsellor? I feel that even considering the negative aspects we are a great organization. Glen Schweizer EAA#1133012Sent from my iPhone> On Dec 6, 2014, at 10:38 AM, "taildrags" wrote:> > > The Rudolph Piet just goes to prove that Ford powered Piets can fly on and onand on!> > As far as the EAA, I quit the association some years ago when the flagship publication(the main reason I joined EAA 35 years ago) featured "homebuilts" thatcost in the six figures, green tractors, and other things that did not interestme or reflect what I consider to be experimental aviation. The one shiningstar in the EAA line of publications has been the "Hints for Homebuilders"series of video clips. THAT is real stuff, by real people, for real people.Yes, they have a few "factory people" in some of the videos, but they are sharingvaluable skills and information.> > --------> Oscar Zuniga> Medford, OR> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"> A75 power> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 424#435424> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol in Print

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Original Posted By: taildrags
The "Experimenter" was more to my liking. It is still online, but apparently most members are not interested in real homebuilding anymore. When I tell people I am building a Pietenpol the first question is: "Where did you get your kit?" I guess most people interested in aviation now are of the carriage trade and several hundred thousand dollars is peanuts and so the EAA caters to them. At least that was the feeling I got since Paul Poberezny hated ultralights so much. I assume the EAA knows their target market better than I do.Dennis-----Original Message-----
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Pietenpol-List: Re: the Eagle

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Original Posted By: Ben Charvet
Graphics are secret, kayaks are definitely NOT! I am very pleased to recommend and promote the skin-on-frame kayaks and boats designed by Dave Gentry. Simple to build, affordable, well documented and tested, and beautiful boats. http://gentrycustomboats.com/home.html . I'm building a pair of Chuckanut 12 kayaks and I also plan to build a Shenandoah Whitehall rowboat for our friends up in Washington who have two young daughters and will soon need to have a way to take the girls and all their camping gear out to the small uninhabited islands in Rosario Strait to show them the beauty of the whole Puget Sound island region from a sturdy rowboat and by the side of a campfire. They already have ocean kayaks, but now with the children and gear they will need a rowboat! Keeps you fit, too, and lets you teach navigation and seamanship while you pull-pull-pull on the oars with your children in the boat and orcas keeping you company.The only reason this is even vaguely aviation-related is that the skin-on-frameconstruction technique uses wood framing with heat-shrunk fabric covering, andrather than sewing and stapling the fabric on our kayaks, I plan to use Poly-Takto cement the fabric to the frames and finishing tapes to complete the overlapsand seams after heat-tautening the fabric with my covering irons.Might even fill the flotation compartments fore and aft with ping-pong balls orempty milk cartons ;o)--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2014 07:50:22 -0500
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Re: Pietenpol-List: E-LSA reregistration?

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RE: Pietenpol-List: E-LSA reregistration?

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Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Ben On the FAA website the J3 is listed as " Light Sport Aircraft: Existing TypeCertificated Models" herehttp://www.faa.gov/aircraft/gen_av/light_sport ... Models.pdf. You cannot reregister an existing aircraft as experimental light sport. Seesection Section 6. Light Sport Aircraft Category AirworthinessCertifications 4038. General.http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_an ... Sacramento, CAWestcoastPiet.com-----Original Message-----
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> Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol in Print

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> To: "pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com" > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol in Print> > Hi all> I agree with points made about changes at EAA. They've (we've) become more and more corporate over the years. I don't like the fact that 6 figure aircraft are promoted or reviewed either. I think a lot of it stems from people wanting instant airplane,quick build, high performance stuff which is way beyond many (my) budgets.> On the other hand, EAA has led the way to many positive changes as far as FAA regs regarding GA. Also, where else can I get assistance from a recognized Tech. Counsellor?> I feel that even considering the negative aspects we are a great organization. Glen Schweizer> EAA#1133012> Sent from my iPhone> >> On Dec 6, 2014, at 10:38 AM, "taildrags" wrote:>> >> >> The Rudolph Piet just goes to prove that Ford powered Piets can fly on and on and on!>> >> As far as the EAA, I quit the association some years ago when the flagship publication (the main reason I joined EAA 35 years ago) featured "homebuilts" that cost in the six figures, green tractors, and other things that did not interest me or reflect what I consider to be experimental aviation. The one shining star in the EAA line of publications has been the "Hints for Homebuilders" series of video clips. THAT is real stuff, by real people, for real people. Yes, they have a few "factory people" in some of the videos, but they are sharing valuable skills and information.>> >> -------->> Oscar Zuniga>> Medford, OR>> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout">> A75 power>> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here:>> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 424#435424>> >> >> >> >> >> >> ============================================================================================================================================>> >> >> ________________________________________________________________________________
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Pietenpol-List: E-LSA reregistration?

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Subject: Pietenpol-List: E-LSA reregistration? We've had a situation develop on our local airport. An older gentleman had a mishap flying his J-3. The airplane has been in his family over 60 years, and he actually soloed in it 60 years ago. He has thousands of flight hours and is a former ATP. During the mishap his landing gear struck a runway sign and collapsed. The landing gear was the only thing damaged, so whether this was an accident is open to interpretation. However, the FAA was notified by the mechanic that helped remove the aircraft from the runway. The FAA is asking the pilot have a test-flight with an FAA examiner, which I can understand due to his age, etc. They also dinged him because he was flying as a sport pilot in his J-3 with its original registration as a standard class airplane. They claim it is necessary to re-register the airplane as light sport in order to fly it as a light sport pilot. I have been flying my Pietenpol for 5 years as using light sport pilot rules, and although I remember I had the option to register it as E-LSA, the conventional wisdom at the time was Experimental Amateur Built was the way to go. I've searched the FAA regs and can't find any clarification. Has anyone else out there heard of a push to re-register as E-LSA to make an aircraft eligible for light sport pilots? Ben Charvet 235 hrs on NX866BC sitting on my DL medical =========== =========== =========== =========== This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of the original message (including attachments). =EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD~=EF=BD=EF=BD,=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD%=EF=BD=EF=BDM4=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BDx=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BDw=EF=BDr=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD ________________________________________________________________________________
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