Original Posted By: goffelectric(at)comcast.net
Piet airframe only for sale. O235 removed for another project. Can't tell ifit's a grega or not, no pics though probably available. It's located in centralwi, I'll put ya in touch if interested.Here's the note I got from the seller after asking all of our usual questions.He contacted me via a mutual friend, so I really have no vested interest, firsthand knowledge nor receiving any sort of commission.Mike : Thank you for the note. I believe the job done on the Piet is a nice one.It was built by an A&P who did a very nice job. It is all an hardware no hardwarejunk in it. I have every receipt or close to everything bought for the Piet.along with a dvd of building photo's. It is made of wood with a 3 piece wing.It has Cessna wheels and brakes steel gear legs and I think maule tail wheel.The center section of the wing is aluminum with a 10 gal tank in it. Thelower tank is in it of course. The builder wanted to take it to Alaska he saidbut then he got married. It would make a nice aircraft for someone . It flew25 hrs . It also has nice leather snap on covers for each cockpit. As far as valueI don't know or even have a guess yet you may be more qualified to answerthat than me. So if you run across anyone who is looking let them know thereis one around. I will let them keep it in my hangar until spring for free if Ilike the offer on it.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 22:14:09 +0000 (UTC)
Pietenpol-List: Complete flying piet minus engine and prop for sale
RE: Pietenpol-List: MIG or TIG?
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Oxy-acetyleneJack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia-----Original Message-----
Oxy-acetyleneJack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: MIG or TIG?
Original Posted By: John Letkeman
Only buy a welder if you are serious about developing the skill of being a welder.This is a different goal than saving money on having the parts fro your project,or many of the other reasons why people buy welders. Consider that it takesfar more hours of personal instruction to learn how to make an airworthyweld than it does to teach the average guy to solo a plane from scratch. You don'tlearn how to fly by simply owning a plane, and you don't become a welderby owning the machine and just messing with it. It takes study, instruction andpractice. .If you want to really learn the skill, than buy a very good tig welder. Suggestion:Lincoln 225 precision with micro start. Last part is very important, it isvastly easier to learn with this. If you have literally welded 500 hours a yearsince 1979, you can weld with junk equipment. If you are new and learning,don't do something dumb like buy a Chinese welder "to try welding." If you wantto weld, take it seriously or don't bother. You don't acquire skills by halfmeasure..Mr Budgell's comment "Mig has no place in the aircraft industry." is an opinion,and one he would have a very hard time defending with logic. About 4,500 Avidflyers and Kitfoxes, and 50 years of Maule aircraft says he is wrong. I knowthe history of aircraft welding very well. B-17 motor mounts were stick weldedby women with 7018 rods. Aeronca Cheifs and Champs were also stick welded. .I have built many parts for flying planes with Mig, it works, you have to knowwhat you are doing. A skilled operator can make a completely airworthy part witha mig machine, but it isn't a short cut to being a welder, it is a tool fora particular task. I have shown countless parts at Oshkosh that were mig welded,and only 1 out of 500 people could tell it wasn't tig. 95% of the welds Ido are tig, but that isn't the only way to build planes. If you want to buildaircraft parts, and you are temped to buy a mig because you think it is easerto learn, the machine is cheaper, etc, you have the wrong motivation, and youshould just pay a skilled person to make your stuff. Again, the only valid reasonthat will produce good parts in the long run is really wanting to posses theskill and being willing to work for it. have been welding since 1979.I have used nearly every process to build flying planes.I have welded parts that are now flying on more than 300 aircraftI taught aircraft welding to A&P students at Embry-RiddleA builder can either use this experience to his advantage, or listen to peopleoffer opinions about Mig in aircraft. Your year, your hours, your plane, yourchoice. -ww.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Only buy a welder if you are serious about developing the skill of being a welder.This is a different goal than saving money on having the parts fro your project,or many of the other reasons why people buy welders. Consider that it takesfar more hours of personal instruction to learn how to make an airworthyweld than it does to teach the average guy to solo a plane from scratch. You don'tlearn how to fly by simply owning a plane, and you don't become a welderby owning the machine and just messing with it. It takes study, instruction andpractice. .If you want to really learn the skill, than buy a very good tig welder. Suggestion:Lincoln 225 precision with micro start. Last part is very important, it isvastly easier to learn with this. If you have literally welded 500 hours a yearsince 1979, you can weld with junk equipment. If you are new and learning,don't do something dumb like buy a Chinese welder "to try welding." If you wantto weld, take it seriously or don't bother. You don't acquire skills by halfmeasure..Mr Budgell's comment "Mig has no place in the aircraft industry." is an opinion,and one he would have a very hard time defending with logic. About 4,500 Avidflyers and Kitfoxes, and 50 years of Maule aircraft says he is wrong. I knowthe history of aircraft welding very well. B-17 motor mounts were stick weldedby women with 7018 rods. Aeronca Cheifs and Champs were also stick welded. .I have built many parts for flying planes with Mig, it works, you have to knowwhat you are doing. A skilled operator can make a completely airworthy part witha mig machine, but it isn't a short cut to being a welder, it is a tool fora particular task. I have shown countless parts at Oshkosh that were mig welded,and only 1 out of 500 people could tell it wasn't tig. 95% of the welds Ido are tig, but that isn't the only way to build planes. If you want to buildaircraft parts, and you are temped to buy a mig because you think it is easerto learn, the machine is cheaper, etc, you have the wrong motivation, and youshould just pay a skilled person to make your stuff. Again, the only valid reasonthat will produce good parts in the long run is really wanting to posses theskill and being willing to work for it. have been welding since 1979.I have used nearly every process to build flying planes.I have welded parts that are now flying on more than 300 aircraftI taught aircraft welding to A&P students at Embry-RiddleA builder can either use this experience to his advantage, or listen to peopleoffer opinions about Mig in aircraft. Your year, your hours, your plane, yourchoice. -ww.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Complete flying piet minus engine and prop for sale
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Hey john,Sent ya an email. I just haven't asked the guy if he minds me posting his numberyet.ToolsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 14:42:02 -0800
Hey john,Sent ya an email. I just haven't asked the guy if he minds me posting his numberyet.ToolsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 14:42:02 -0800
Pietenpol-List: Re: Piet list and BPA slowly dying? (tools)
Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
Not sure why this topic is bugging me, but it is.I'm no Marine, and I didn't fly in the Navy, but I'll throw in my comments anyway.1) The ListWhile this "List" has the odd technical difficulty, and maybe could use a littletweaking, it otherwise works just fine, and serves the purpose it was intendedfor - offering a conduit for communication between builders/enthusiasts. Thequantity (and quality
)of postings does tend to be cyclical, and we justexperienced a low period. However, the past few days seem to be showing a bitof resurgence. This is normal, and I do not believe it is indicative of theList dying. The information and friendships that I have gained as a direct resultof this List are invaluable. I think that those who contribute financiallymust be satisfied with what they are getting (otherwise they wouldn't contribute.)And those that do not contribute financially really shouldn't complain,since they're certainly getting more than their money's worth.2) The BPA / BrodheadFirst off, the annual Pietenpol Fly-in is hosted by EAA chapter 431 (Brodhead),not the BPA. In recent years, Doc and Dee organized a silent auction in an effortto generate a small financial contribution to be presented to EAA 431, asa token of gratitude. Prior to Doc and Dee taking on the BPA, there was basicallyzero BPA involvement at the fly-in. It was through Doc and Dee that theissuing of nametags came about. 2014 was the first gathering since Doc andDee stepped down (for a well deserved rest) from the helm of the BPA, and nametags/registrationcontinued as before. There was a real possibility that theBPA could have disappeared when Doc and Dee announced their desire to take abreak. Luckily, John Hofmann decided to take on the thankless task of continuingthe newsletter. And, as he has recently informed us, the newsletter willbe getting back on track, and there is an all-new website in the works. We justneed to have a little patience in the interim.As far as the offering of rides at Brodhead; well, that is solely up to the pilot/ownerof the airplane. While it is a fantastic experience for those who getto be taken for a ride, it certainly isn't something that pilots should feelobligated to offer. There are a myriad of reasons why one may not be willingor able to take passengers up. It may have to do with the performance capabilitiesof his/her craft, or the confidence level of the pilot's skills and abilities,or perhaps less-than-ideal weather conditions, or the not-insignificantcost of fuel, to name a few. Those who do offer rides are certainly to be thankedfor their generosity, but those who choose not to offer rides should notbe discounted or disparaged.(stepping off the soapbox)Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Not sure why this topic is bugging me, but it is.I'm no Marine, and I didn't fly in the Navy, but I'll throw in my comments anyway.1) The ListWhile this "List" has the odd technical difficulty, and maybe could use a littletweaking, it otherwise works just fine, and serves the purpose it was intendedfor - offering a conduit for communication between builders/enthusiasts. Thequantity (and quality
)of postings does tend to be cyclical, and we justexperienced a low period. However, the past few days seem to be showing a bitof resurgence. This is normal, and I do not believe it is indicative of theList dying. The information and friendships that I have gained as a direct resultof this List are invaluable. I think that those who contribute financiallymust be satisfied with what they are getting (otherwise they wouldn't contribute.)And those that do not contribute financially really shouldn't complain,since they're certainly getting more than their money's worth.2) The BPA / BrodheadFirst off, the annual Pietenpol Fly-in is hosted by EAA chapter 431 (Brodhead),not the BPA. In recent years, Doc and Dee organized a silent auction in an effortto generate a small financial contribution to be presented to EAA 431, asa token of gratitude. Prior to Doc and Dee taking on the BPA, there was basicallyzero BPA involvement at the fly-in. It was through Doc and Dee that theissuing of nametags came about. 2014 was the first gathering since Doc andDee stepped down (for a well deserved rest) from the helm of the BPA, and nametags/registrationcontinued as before. There was a real possibility that theBPA could have disappeared when Doc and Dee announced their desire to take abreak. Luckily, John Hofmann decided to take on the thankless task of continuingthe newsletter. And, as he has recently informed us, the newsletter willbe getting back on track, and there is an all-new website in the works. We justneed to have a little patience in the interim.As far as the offering of rides at Brodhead; well, that is solely up to the pilot/ownerof the airplane. While it is a fantastic experience for those who getto be taken for a ride, it certainly isn't something that pilots should feelobligated to offer. There are a myriad of reasons why one may not be willingor able to take passengers up. It may have to do with the performance capabilitiesof his/her craft, or the confidence level of the pilot's skills and abilities,or perhaps less-than-ideal weather conditions, or the not-insignificantcost of fuel, to name a few. Those who do offer rides are certainly to be thankedfor their generosity, but those who choose not to offer rides should notbe discounted or disparaged.(stepping off the soapbox)Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piet list and BPA slowly dying? (tools)
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Thanks, Bill!! Gary BootheNX308MB-----Original Message-----
Thanks, Bill!! Gary BootheNX308MB-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: MIG or TIG?
Original Posted By: "aerocarjake"
Oxy--------JohnRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: MIG or TIG?
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