Original Posted By: "Bill Church"
I came across this eBay listing and contacted the guy. He is looking for me a punchand vee die along with an additional gooseneck to use-http://www.ebay.com/itm/111569842812?_t ... TBasically, he sells you a 3 inch to 5 inch section (but can sell you longer piecesas needed) of each punch and die that you order from him. I will let you knowhow it works out, but I emailed him and he seemed to be on the up and up.It might be a good source for dies for the small amount of metal work needed forbuilding a Pietenpol. I have attached a screenshot of the listing for you toget a quick look, and you can click on the link if you have further interest.Hope it helps someone.--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GARead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/ebay ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: What color is this Pietenpol?
Pietenpol-List: What color is this Pietenpol?
Original Posted By: "Barry Davis"
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RE: Pietenpol-List: What color is this Pietenpol?
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
White & Brown?Barry-----Original Message-----
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Pietenpol-List: Re: What color is this Pietenpol?
Original Posted By: "Jeff Boatright"
Definitely Blue/GoldSent from my iPhone> On Mar 3, 2015, at 11:57 AM, Bill Church wrote:> > > Blue/Gold?> White/Black?> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 948#438948> > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/600_piet_830.jpg> > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: What color is this Pietenpol?
Definitely Blue/GoldSent from my iPhone> On Mar 3, 2015, at 11:57 AM, Bill Church wrote:> > > Blue/Gold?> White/Black?> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 948#438948> > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/600_piet_830.jpg> > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: What color is this Pietenpol?
Pietenpol-List: Re: What color is this Pietenpol?
Original Posted By: "taildrags"
Oh, and- note to Chris Tracy: snag these photos and the ones of Aviken's "JeepCamper" for upload to Westcoastpiet. Good stuff in all these photos!--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: What color is this Pietenpol?
Oh, and- note to Chris Tracy: snag these photos and the ones of Aviken's "JeepCamper" for upload to Westcoastpiet. Good stuff in all these photos!--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: What color is this Pietenpol?
Pietenpol-List: Re: What color is this Pietenpol?
Original Posted By: "taildrags"
See, you guys all just want to make fun of this airplane as if it were some kindof a dress. All I see is an Air Camper, and one with a lot of similaritiesto 41CC when I had the A65 on it. The Aeronca heat muff is what I still have,but with the 65 I also had a small forward-facing air scoop like this one onthe inlet to the heat muff in order to get a more forceful flow of air throughthe heat box. I had those standard Aeronca stacks, which rusted out in justa few short years and that I replaced with welded stainless steel ones. I hadthe tall cooling air scoop "eyebrows" like these till I went to a set of lower-profileJ-3 style scoops. Scout still has cabane brace struts very similarto these, with Aurora ball end fittings at the top, which proved to be a weaklink and a failure point when the airplane went over on its back. One broke andone bent, right where those fittings thread into the streamline tubing. Myairplane has a slightly higher turtledeck than this one, where this one seemsto dip to a lower profile just aft of the pilot's seat back. This airplane hasone thing that I was determined to avoid on mine: the brake cables have quitea bit of extra length in them, which (to my mind) makes them susceptible togetting snagged when landing in fields and tall grass, which I do from time totime. Although I don't have cable-actuated brakes, I made it a point of routingmy brake line tubing tight to the gear legs, on the aft side of them, inorder to protect them from passing brush and grass.I am not being critical here... just trying to be observant and learn from otherairplanes. Some people see a dress: I see an airplane ;o)--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: What color is this Pietenpol?
See, you guys all just want to make fun of this airplane as if it were some kindof a dress. All I see is an Air Camper, and one with a lot of similaritiesto 41CC when I had the A65 on it. The Aeronca heat muff is what I still have,but with the 65 I also had a small forward-facing air scoop like this one onthe inlet to the heat muff in order to get a more forceful flow of air throughthe heat box. I had those standard Aeronca stacks, which rusted out in justa few short years and that I replaced with welded stainless steel ones. I hadthe tall cooling air scoop "eyebrows" like these till I went to a set of lower-profileJ-3 style scoops. Scout still has cabane brace struts very similarto these, with Aurora ball end fittings at the top, which proved to be a weaklink and a failure point when the airplane went over on its back. One broke andone bent, right where those fittings thread into the streamline tubing. Myairplane has a slightly higher turtledeck than this one, where this one seemsto dip to a lower profile just aft of the pilot's seat back. This airplane hasone thing that I was determined to avoid on mine: the brake cables have quitea bit of extra length in them, which (to my mind) makes them susceptible togetting snagged when landing in fields and tall grass, which I do from time totime. Although I don't have cable-actuated brakes, I made it a point of routingmy brake line tubing tight to the gear legs, on the aft side of them, inorder to protect them from passing brush and grass.I am not being critical here... just trying to be observant and learn from otherairplanes. Some people see a dress: I see an airplane ;o)--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: What color is this Pietenpol?
Pietenpol-List: Re: What color is this Pietenpol?
Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-LME0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]"
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Pietenpol-List: Re: a few words about dihedral
Original Posted By: "Bill Church"
Just a few observations about adding dihedral to the 3-piece Pietenpol wing.Women Fly 2 points out that dihedral can reduce lift which is true but for the minuscule amount of dihedral thatwe put in our Pietenpols the effect is negligible.Wing cuts outs in the center section is another place where builders fuss over the "loss of lift" when if you just builda light plane it will climb great. Add 2 feet of wing if you're worried about lift loss.If you want to reduce lift build a Pietenpol that is wayyyyy overweight or adding electrical systems and lots of radios andfront cockpit instruments but losing a little lift for the sake of dihedral is well worth the trade off---and here are my reasons:1) dihedral increases stability.2) easier to fold and read maps while going cross country if you have to take your hands off the stick momentarily3) birds have dihedral.4) Cubs and Champs have dihedral and fly pretty nicely.5) Piets with flat wings sometimes appear to have drooping wings so just a touch of dihedral eliminates that appearance.6) Dihedral irritates the purists which is a fond hobby of mine!Mike C.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: a few words about dihedral
Just a few observations about adding dihedral to the 3-piece Pietenpol wing.Women Fly 2 points out that dihedral can reduce lift which is true but for the minuscule amount of dihedral thatwe put in our Pietenpols the effect is negligible.Wing cuts outs in the center section is another place where builders fuss over the "loss of lift" when if you just builda light plane it will climb great. Add 2 feet of wing if you're worried about lift loss.If you want to reduce lift build a Pietenpol that is wayyyyy overweight or adding electrical systems and lots of radios andfront cockpit instruments but losing a little lift for the sake of dihedral is well worth the trade off---and here are my reasons:1) dihedral increases stability.2) easier to fold and read maps while going cross country if you have to take your hands off the stick momentarily3) birds have dihedral.4) Cubs and Champs have dihedral and fly pretty nicely.5) Piets with flat wings sometimes appear to have drooping wings so just a touch of dihedral eliminates that appearance.6) Dihedral irritates the purists which is a fond hobby of mine!Mike C.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: a few words about dihedral