Original Posted By: Gary Boothe
Hey all,For those of you with lots of experience, what are some of the best and mostavailable woods for rib capstrips?Douwe________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: "Dale Johnson"
Other than spruce? I used Poplar.Sent from my iPhone> On Sep 14, 2015, at 11:29 AM, Douwe Blumberg wrote:> > Hey all,> > For those of you with lots of experience, what are some of the best and most available woods for rib capstrips?> > Douwe> > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D> ________________________________________________________________________________
Other than spruce? I used Poplar.Sent from my iPhone> On Sep 14, 2015, at 11:29 AM, Douwe Blumberg wrote:> > Hey all,> > For those of you with lots of experience, what are some of the best and most available woods for rib capstrips?> > Douwe> > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D> ________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: Douwe Blumberg
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Original Posted By: "Charles N. Campbell"
I have two Ford model A engines short blocks for sale. These engines were runningwhen removed years ago. One engine has low time hours as it came out of a combine(1934) and the other engine is out of a (1929) vehicle. These are goodblocks. Looking for $500.00 for the pair or best offer.Call 701-793-3030Fargo, NDKen HeideSent from my iPhone________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2015 07:29:50 -0400Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: best wood for capstrips
I have two Ford model A engines short blocks for sale. These engines were runningwhen removed years ago. One engine has low time hours as it came out of a combine(1934) and the other engine is out of a (1929) vehicle. These are goodblocks. Looking for $500.00 for the pair or best offer.Call 701-793-3030Fargo, NDKen HeideSent from my iPhone________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2015 07:29:50 -0400Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: best wood for capstrips
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Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-LME0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]"
Way back when I was a ribmaker I found 1/4" X 1/2" strips of clear Hemlock fromthe trim section of all of the local lumber yards. I can't find it anymore. It's allprepainted sawdust board now.ClifWhen I was younger, I could remember anything,whether it happened or not. Mark Twain For those of you with lots of experience, what are some of the best and most available woods for rib capstrips? Douwe________________________________________________________________________________
Way back when I was a ribmaker I found 1/4" X 1/2" strips of clear Hemlock fromthe trim section of all of the local lumber yards. I can't find it anymore. It's allprepainted sawdust board now.ClifWhen I was younger, I could remember anything,whether it happened or not. Mark Twain For those of you with lots of experience, what are some of the best and most available woods for rib capstrips? Douwe________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: "Andy Garrett"
Gary,Very nice. :)Looks a lot familiar to me.Cheers,--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: best wood for capstrips
Gary,Very nice. :)Looks a lot familiar to me.Cheers,--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: best wood for capstrips
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Original Posted By: "jarheadpilot82"
Since 41-13 was written many decades ago, are there any updates?Specifically, the chart indicates a difficulty in gluing with white cedar. Doesit glue better with modern epoxies?Any experiences?Cedar is far more available around these parts.--------Andy Garrett'General Purpose Creative Dude'Haysville, KansasRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: best wood for capstrips
Since 41-13 was written many decades ago, are there any updates?Specifically, the chart indicates a difficulty in gluing with white cedar. Doesit glue better with modern epoxies?Any experiences?Cedar is far more available around these parts.--------Andy Garrett'General Purpose Creative Dude'Haysville, KansasRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: best wood for capstrips
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Original Posted By: "tools"
Rick,You are very close to my weight...sure looking forward to your first flight report...GaryNX308MBSent from my iPhone> On Sep 22, 2015, at 6:12 PM, Rick Schreiber wrote:> > >> On 9/22/2015 7:37 AM, Chris Rusch wrote:>> >> HI Rick,>> >> Your plane looks awesome!! What did your final weight come in at?>> >> -------->> NX321LR>> Now test flying!!>> Mitsubishi Powered>> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here:>> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 336#447336> Thanks Chris.> My final weight was 758# . I was hoping for a lighter weight, but I do have thestraight axle gear, 3 piece wing, starter and a heavier paint color. By thatI mean that I had to paint the Piet white to hiding, then paint it yellow. Thatmore or less doubles the total paint weight.> Rick Schreiber> NX478RS> First test flight planed Saturday 9/26/15> > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: best wood for capstrips
Rick,You are very close to my weight...sure looking forward to your first flight report...GaryNX308MBSent from my iPhone> On Sep 22, 2015, at 6:12 PM, Rick Schreiber wrote:> > >> On 9/22/2015 7:37 AM, Chris Rusch wrote:>> >> HI Rick,>> >> Your plane looks awesome!! What did your final weight come in at?>> >> -------->> NX321LR>> Now test flying!!>> Mitsubishi Powered>> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here:>> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 336#447336> Thanks Chris.> My final weight was 758# . I was hoping for a lighter weight, but I do have thestraight axle gear, 3 piece wing, starter and a heavier paint color. By thatI mean that I had to paint the Piet white to hiding, then paint it yellow. Thatmore or less doubles the total paint weight.> Rick Schreiber> NX478RS> First test flight planed Saturday 9/26/15> > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: best wood for capstrips
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Original Posted By: "taildrags"
I glue cedar fairly regularly and have not had any problems with using even aliphaticresins (yellow glues). Certainly can't imagine any modern epoxies havingany problems.I do not have experience using resorcinol or casein glue with cedar.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: best wood for capstrips
I glue cedar fairly regularly and have not had any problems with using even aliphaticresins (yellow glues). Certainly can't imagine any modern epoxies havingany problems.I do not have experience using resorcinol or casein glue with cedar.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: best wood for capstrips
Original Posted By: "Clif Dawson"
This reply is based on my experience working with Douglas fir, of which there isa LOT in Oregon!!! It is readily available in all grades, is affordable (evenfree, if you look in the right places), and is definitely suitable for buildingairplanes out of. Beefy sections like wing spars and 1x1" longerons areeasy to work with but rib capstrips will put it (and you) to the test due to theslenderness and small dimensions of the pieces. DF is more brittle than spruceand depending on how the grain is oriented relative to the bend you are tryingto put into it, you can snap it easier than spruce. Nailing or staplinginto it (such as when attaching gussets) is far more likely to split DF thanspruce if you nail or staple too close to the edge, and even if you don't hugthe edge it likes to split anyway. Thin, short wire staples into DF are bestfor holding gussets in place while they glue. The other thing about Doug firis that the grain lines are harder than the wood between the lines. When youdrill or nail parallel to a grain line (not through it), your drill bit or nailor staple will want to follow the grain line away from the center that you'retrying to drill or nail. It's a bit fussy but it makes up for its shortcomingby being affordable, strong, and -to my nose, at least- pleasantly aromatic,where spruce has almost no smell at all.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
This reply is based on my experience working with Douglas fir, of which there isa LOT in Oregon!!! It is readily available in all grades, is affordable (evenfree, if you look in the right places), and is definitely suitable for buildingairplanes out of. Beefy sections like wing spars and 1x1" longerons areeasy to work with but rib capstrips will put it (and you) to the test due to theslenderness and small dimensions of the pieces. DF is more brittle than spruceand depending on how the grain is oriented relative to the bend you are tryingto put into it, you can snap it easier than spruce. Nailing or staplinginto it (such as when attaching gussets) is far more likely to split DF thanspruce if you nail or staple too close to the edge, and even if you don't hugthe edge it likes to split anyway. Thin, short wire staples into DF are bestfor holding gussets in place while they glue. The other thing about Doug firis that the grain lines are harder than the wood between the lines. When youdrill or nail parallel to a grain line (not through it), your drill bit or nailor staple will want to follow the grain line away from the center that you'retrying to drill or nail. It's a bit fussy but it makes up for its shortcomingby being affordable, strong, and -to my nose, at least- pleasantly aromatic,where spruce has almost no smell at all.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________