Original Posted By: "Pocono John"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Douwe,Contact me I may be able to help.Brian385-315-0127Sent from my iPhone> On Jan 9, 2017, at 3:11 PM, Douwe Blumberg wrote:> > Hey all,> > I=99m doing a job in Salt Lake City and will need a concrete contractor. If anyone lives out there or has any connections, please let me know.> > Thanks> > Douwe________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Joining the fuselage sides
Pietenpol-List: Joining the fuselage sides
Re: Pietenpol-List: Joining the fuselage sides
Original Posted By: Peter Johnson
I have both sides of the fuselage sitting in the jig, and now I'm wondering howbest to join them.I'm building the long fuselage with split axel.1) What's the best sequence for these steps:Glue the floor board on.Install the ash cross pieces on the floor board.Join the tail.Install the top cross pieces.2) the forward ash cross piece tapers from 1" to 3/4". Does the rear piece alsotaper, or is it 3/4" the full length?3) to position the ash pieces, should I place a temporary "false" back at the frontseat and position the rear ash to it? Then measure 27 1/2" on center to theforward ash cross piece?4) I'll be mounting the corvair engine. What adjustments, if any, should I maketo the firewall area of the plans?5) I haven't focused much on the steel strap yet, but if you can shed some lighton it, might save a future post.Any words of advice/suggestions are certainly appreciated.Thank you,John Cronin--------JohnRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Joining the fuselage sides
I have both sides of the fuselage sitting in the jig, and now I'm wondering howbest to join them.I'm building the long fuselage with split axel.1) What's the best sequence for these steps:Glue the floor board on.Install the ash cross pieces on the floor board.Join the tail.Install the top cross pieces.2) the forward ash cross piece tapers from 1" to 3/4". Does the rear piece alsotaper, or is it 3/4" the full length?3) to position the ash pieces, should I place a temporary "false" back at the frontseat and position the rear ash to it? Then measure 27 1/2" on center to theforward ash cross piece?4) I'll be mounting the corvair engine. What adjustments, if any, should I maketo the firewall area of the plans?5) I haven't focused much on the steel strap yet, but if you can shed some lighton it, might save a future post.Any words of advice/suggestions are certainly appreciated.Thank you,John Cronin--------JohnRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Joining the fuselage sides
Pietenpol-List: Re: Joining the fuselage sides
Original Posted By: "Pocono John"
John,Check out http://www.cpc-world.comThere are photos of the fuse building on there.CheersPeter > On 11 Jan 2017, at 9:42 am, Pocono John wrote:> > > I have both sides of the fuselage sitting in the jig, and now I'm wondering howbest to join them.> > I'm building the long fuselage with split axel.> > 1) What's the best sequence for these steps:> > Glue the floor board on.> Install the ash cross pieces on the floor board.> Join the tail.> Install the top cross pieces.> > 2) the forward ash cross piece tapers from 1" to 3/4". Does the rear piece alsotaper, or is it 3/4" the full length?> > 3) to position the ash pieces, should I place a temporary "false" back at thefront seat and position the rear ash to it? Then measure 27 1/2" on center tothe forward ash cross piece?> > 4) I'll be mounting the corvair engine. What adjustments, if any, should I maketo the firewall area of the plans?> > 5) I haven't focused much on the steel strap yet, but if you can shed some lighton it, might save a future post.> > Any words of advice/suggestions are certainly appreciated.> > Thank you,> > John Cronin> > --------> John> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 955#464955> > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Joining the fuselage sides
John,Check out http://www.cpc-world.comThere are photos of the fuse building on there.CheersPeter > On 11 Jan 2017, at 9:42 am, Pocono John wrote:> > > I have both sides of the fuselage sitting in the jig, and now I'm wondering howbest to join them.> > I'm building the long fuselage with split axel.> > 1) What's the best sequence for these steps:> > Glue the floor board on.> Install the ash cross pieces on the floor board.> Join the tail.> Install the top cross pieces.> > 2) the forward ash cross piece tapers from 1" to 3/4". Does the rear piece alsotaper, or is it 3/4" the full length?> > 3) to position the ash pieces, should I place a temporary "false" back at thefront seat and position the rear ash to it? Then measure 27 1/2" on center tothe forward ash cross piece?> > 4) I'll be mounting the corvair engine. What adjustments, if any, should I maketo the firewall area of the plans?> > 5) I haven't focused much on the steel strap yet, but if you can shed some lighton it, might save a future post.> > Any words of advice/suggestions are certainly appreciated.> > Thank you,> > John Cronin> > --------> John> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 955#464955> > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Joining the fuselage sides
Original Posted By: Jim Markle
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Pietenpol-List: Re: Joining the fuselage sides
Original Posted By: "Vincent Dunn"
I will tell you that the cable with swagged end will not work as a safety stop.The cable will pull through the copper swag on a hard landing if the bungee brakes.You need to have a positive sheet metal stop. Look at how a Curtiss Jennylanding gear is designed. BP just copied it.WF2--------Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Joining the fuselage sides
I will tell you that the cable with swagged end will not work as a safety stop.The cable will pull through the copper swag on a hard landing if the bungee brakes.You need to have a positive sheet metal stop. Look at how a Curtiss Jennylanding gear is designed. BP just copied it.WF2--------Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Joining the fuselage sides
Original Posted By: helspersew(at)aol.com
John,I'll be interested to hear what your process is. Especially, "Joining the tail."I just finished building a "mockup" of the long Corvair fuse and found the tailjoining process, or rather the beveling of the longerons and struts, to bedevilishly difficult. I obviously didn't do it properly and in the correct sequenceso I'm interested to hear how you go about it.--------Vincent DunnSalem Oregonvincentkdunn(at)yahoo.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 13:09:52 -0500
John,I'll be interested to hear what your process is. Especially, "Joining the tail."I just finished building a "mockup" of the long Corvair fuse and found the tailjoining process, or rather the beveling of the longerons and struts, to bedevilishly difficult. I obviously didn't do it properly and in the correct sequenceso I'm interested to hear how you go about it.--------Vincent DunnSalem Oregonvincentkdunn(at)yahoo.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 13:09:52 -0500
Pietenpol-List: Re: Joining the fuselage sides
Original Posted By: "Douwe Blumberg"
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Pietenpol-List: Re: Joining the fuselage sides
Original Posted By: "Pocono John"
Hello John. Here is what I did to join my fuselage sides. (The pictures as shownare in reverse order...strange...) Fist off, you must work with a center line. As shown in Picture 1, I put tape onthe floor and drew a straight line down it. I used this very center line fornumerous items through out the build, so do not be in a hurry to remove it. (Minewas used for months.) I started with the fuselage sides upside down; theflat longerons on the floor and worked from the front towards the rear, addingand clamping the connecting pieces as I went. This allowed the fuselage to takeon a nice, even shape.I drew a center line on each cross member piece, (Picture 6) and dropped a plumbbob down to match with the line on the floor. (Picture 2) I worked my way back,gluing, clamping, checking center lines and adding cross pieces both top andbottom. (Picture 3 and 4) Note that I utilized two plumb bobs at all times,just to be sure the front and rear stayed true on center.Next I traced out and added the floor, (picture 5) and after flipping the fuselageupright, I started on the various instrument shelves, diagonal, etc. (Picture7)I have other pictures/details if interested.--------Mike PerezRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/fuse ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Joining the fuselage sides
Hello John. Here is what I did to join my fuselage sides. (The pictures as shownare in reverse order...strange...) Fist off, you must work with a center line. As shown in Picture 1, I put tape onthe floor and drew a straight line down it. I used this very center line fornumerous items through out the build, so do not be in a hurry to remove it. (Minewas used for months.) I started with the fuselage sides upside down; theflat longerons on the floor and worked from the front towards the rear, addingand clamping the connecting pieces as I went. This allowed the fuselage to takeon a nice, even shape.I drew a center line on each cross member piece, (Picture 6) and dropped a plumbbob down to match with the line on the floor. (Picture 2) I worked my way back,gluing, clamping, checking center lines and adding cross pieces both top andbottom. (Picture 3 and 4) Note that I utilized two plumb bobs at all times,just to be sure the front and rear stayed true on center.Next I traced out and added the floor, (picture 5) and after flipping the fuselageupright, I started on the various instrument shelves, diagonal, etc. (Picture7)I have other pictures/details if interested.--------Mike PerezRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/fuse ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Joining the fuselage sides
Original Posted By: "M W Stanley"
Thanks Mike. The saying "a picture's worth a thousand words" is so true. Your fuselage looks good and I sure appreciate the photos and advice.I notice you're installing the tail post later. I sometimes wonder if I shouldhave gone that route, but alas, I have to go to the shop now on work on cuttingthem down to size and beveled.Thank you,John--------JohnRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Thanks Mike. The saying "a picture's worth a thousand words" is so true. Your fuselage looks good and I sure appreciate the photos and advice.I notice you're installing the tail post later. I sometimes wonder if I shouldhave gone that route, but alas, I have to go to the shop now on work on cuttingthem down to size and beveled.Thank you,John--------JohnRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Joining the fuselage sides
Original Posted By: "Speedbrake"
Hi Mike, I hope you don't mind me butting in. Just want to say your photos are great, Thanks for posting!Mark StanleyJapan--------------------------------------------------
Hi Mike, I hope you don't mind me butting in. Just want to say your photos are great, Thanks for posting!Mark StanleyJapan--------------------------------------------------