Original Posted By: "tools"
Ray; my comment about the weight of the hinges is on the "how the hinges are made"webpage that I posted the link to. Down at the bottom of that page is a pictureof a finished pair of the hinges with this caption:"... and here, after some 396 separate hand operations, is a pair of hinges. Approximateweight of this pair of hinges, minus the mounting screws and pivot pinhardware, is 0.64 oz, or about 0.38 lb for the complete set of 9 pairs. Sinceall of this weight is aft of the CG and on a very long moment arm, keepingthese parts light is important. Believe it or not, the moment created by this1/3 of a pound for a set of hinge castings out at the tail of my Air Camper isthe same as that created by 3 gallons of fuel (18 lbs) in the nose tank. Usethin AN washers on the clevis pins, don't use pins that are any longer than necessary,and clip the excess leg lengths off the cotter pins before setting them."--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 power, 72x36 Culver propRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Toolstock???
Pietenpol-List: Vi Kapler hinges
Original Posted By: "Barry Davis"
Hwy Barry!Sorry, no Toolstock this year. A very good friend had some very serious healthissues and needed quite a lot of help. Just never had time to get the place ready. However, am already planning on onehere in GA next feb.Would also like to have a smaller one up in WI sometime. Kind of want that onemore Piet or airplane related at the outset. I may start a thread over on thenew BPA site to see what would help folks the most. Thanks for asking! Going to sun and fun?Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Hwy Barry!Sorry, no Toolstock this year. A very good friend had some very serious healthissues and needed quite a lot of help. Just never had time to get the place ready. However, am already planning on onehere in GA next feb.Would also like to have a smaller one up in WI sometime. Kind of want that onemore Piet or airplane related at the outset. I may start a thread over on thenew BPA site to see what would help folks the most. Thanks for asking! Going to sun and fun?Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Toolstock???
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
I was afraid of that. I have some interesting guns to bring and shoot. Might fly down for a day or two, but most likely won't. I have a GlockShooting match next weekend and need to practice a little next week. (Forthose interested in a family oriented shooting group, google GSSF. There arematches every weekend all over this great country)Barry-----Original Message-----
I was afraid of that. I have some interesting guns to bring and shoot. Might fly down for a day or two, but most likely won't. I have a GlockShooting match next weekend and need to practice a little next week. (Forthose interested in a family oriented shooting group, google GSSF. There arematches every weekend all over this great country)Barry-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead Pietenpol Association
Original Posted By: "(null) raykrause"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead Pietenpol AssociationKeep at it Charles! I think the new forum is going to work well. Don't wantto miss your input.While I find the Forum to be farily easy to use, I do not find itintuitive. However, being the Luddite I am, I don't find any website, list,forum or anything but papyrus to be intuitive.Computer and Smartphone designers say "this is intuitive" BS. It involvessomething above hunting and gathering or building. If I throw a rock atyour head. Ducking is intuitive. If I send a malicious worm to yourcomputer, there is no intuitive reaction.Blue Skies.Steve DOn Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 5:37 AM, Charles N. Campbell wrote:> The new program still will not recognize my password. Maybe it's too> complicated for the new forum. I give up !!!!!!!!! chuckiebaby>>> On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 8:48 PM, pweeden > wrote:>>> pweeden(at)weedengraphics.com>>>>> Howdy all. Some of you may have heard that the Brodhead Pietenpol>> Association has changed hands. A group of us at Brodhead Airport have>> agreed to take the reins from John Hofmann and have committed to publishing>> four newsletters per year, along with planning the annual Pietenpol Reunion>> at Brodhead Airport.>>>> A new website is up, and while it is still being built out with content,>> you can go there to join or renew your membership, download selected back>> issues of the newsletter and join other builders and enthusiasts in the>> discussion board.>>>> http://www.pietenpols.org>>>> The discussion board is a new feature meant to bring a much updated>> version of the Matronics board back to the "mothership." Also, we are>> starting to scan many of the original newsletters from the early 1970s and>> 80s that are full of good information from the old-timers.>>>> As always, we appreciate any information, articles, photos, ideas and>> general gossip that you all can provide for the newsletter. Contact>> information at the website.>>>> Thanks to John Hofmann for his work over the past several years.>>>>>>>>>> Read this topic online here:>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 908#466908>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ===================================>> br> enpol-List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.>> matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List>> ===================================>> FORUMS ->> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com>> ===================================>> WIKI ->> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com>> ===================================>> b Site ->> -Matt Dralle, List Admin.>> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution>> ===================================>>>>>>>>>-- Blue Skies,Steve D________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead Pietenpol AssociationKeep at it Charles! I think the new forum is going to work well. Don't wantto miss your input.While I find the Forum to be farily easy to use, I do not find itintuitive. However, being the Luddite I am, I don't find any website, list,forum or anything but papyrus to be intuitive.Computer and Smartphone designers say "this is intuitive" BS. It involvessomething above hunting and gathering or building. If I throw a rock atyour head. Ducking is intuitive. If I send a malicious worm to yourcomputer, there is no intuitive reaction.Blue Skies.Steve DOn Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 5:37 AM, Charles N. Campbell wrote:> The new program still will not recognize my password. Maybe it's too> complicated for the new forum. I give up !!!!!!!!! chuckiebaby>>> On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 8:48 PM, pweeden > wrote:>>> pweeden(at)weedengraphics.com>>>>> Howdy all. Some of you may have heard that the Brodhead Pietenpol>> Association has changed hands. A group of us at Brodhead Airport have>> agreed to take the reins from John Hofmann and have committed to publishing>> four newsletters per year, along with planning the annual Pietenpol Reunion>> at Brodhead Airport.>>>> A new website is up, and while it is still being built out with content,>> you can go there to join or renew your membership, download selected back>> issues of the newsletter and join other builders and enthusiasts in the>> discussion board.>>>> http://www.pietenpols.org>>>> The discussion board is a new feature meant to bring a much updated>> version of the Matronics board back to the "mothership." Also, we are>> starting to scan many of the original newsletters from the early 1970s and>> 80s that are full of good information from the old-timers.>>>> As always, we appreciate any information, articles, photos, ideas and>> general gossip that you all can provide for the newsletter. Contact>> information at the website.>>>> Thanks to John Hofmann for his work over the past several years.>>>>>>>>>> Read this topic online here:>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 908#466908>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ===================================>> br> enpol-List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.>> matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List>> ===================================>> FORUMS ->> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com>> ===================================>> WIKI ->> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com>> ===================================>> b Site ->> -Matt Dralle, List Admin.>> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution>> ===================================>>>>>>>>>-- Blue Skies,Steve D________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: New piet builders forum
Original Posted By: "oldbird"
Oscar,Thanks for the response. Now I wish I had made my motor mount another 2" longerfor my SkyScout. But by slanting my cabanas back almost 6", I'm now where I shouldbe with the CG. With a 200lb butt in the cockpit, my CG is fine until Iget down to 30 minutes of fuel left. That means I've flown for over two hours,not too likely! Maybe by the time I fly it, I can loose 10 lbs!Thanks, RaySent from my iPad> On Mar 8, 2017, at 7:53 PM, taildrags wrote:> > > Ray; my comment about the weight of the hinges is on the "how the hinges aremade" webpage that I posted the link to. Down at the bottom of that page is apicture of a finished pair of the hinges with this caption:> > "... and here, after some 396 separate hand operations, is a pair of hinges.Approximate weight of this pair of hinges, minus the mounting screws and pivotpin hardware, is 0.64 oz, or about 0.38 lb for the complete set of 9 pairs. Sinceall of this weight is aft of the CG and on a very long moment arm, keepingthese parts light is important. Believe it or not, the moment created by this1/3 of a pound for a set of hinge castings out at the tail of my Air Camperis the same as that created by 3 gallons of fuel (18 lbs) in the nose tank. Usethin AN washers on the clevis pins, don't use pins that are any longer thannecessary, and clip the excess leg lengths off the cotter pins before settingthem."> > --------> Oscar Zuniga> Medford, OR> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"> A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 087#467087> > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New piet builders forum
Oscar,Thanks for the response. Now I wish I had made my motor mount another 2" longerfor my SkyScout. But by slanting my cabanas back almost 6", I'm now where I shouldbe with the CG. With a 200lb butt in the cockpit, my CG is fine until Iget down to 30 minutes of fuel left. That means I've flown for over two hours,not too likely! Maybe by the time I fly it, I can loose 10 lbs!Thanks, RaySent from my iPad> On Mar 8, 2017, at 7:53 PM, taildrags wrote:> > > Ray; my comment about the weight of the hinges is on the "how the hinges aremade" webpage that I posted the link to. Down at the bottom of that page is apicture of a finished pair of the hinges with this caption:> > "... and here, after some 396 separate hand operations, is a pair of hinges.Approximate weight of this pair of hinges, minus the mounting screws and pivotpin hardware, is 0.64 oz, or about 0.38 lb for the complete set of 9 pairs. Sinceall of this weight is aft of the CG and on a very long moment arm, keepingthese parts light is important. Believe it or not, the moment created by this1/3 of a pound for a set of hinge castings out at the tail of my Air Camperis the same as that created by 3 gallons of fuel (18 lbs) in the nose tank. Usethin AN washers on the clevis pins, don't use pins that are any longer thannecessary, and clip the excess leg lengths off the cotter pins before settingthem."> > --------> Oscar Zuniga> Medford, OR> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"> A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 087#467087> > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New piet builders forum
Original Posted By: "Charles N. Campbell"
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Pietenpol-List: Re: Toolstock???
Original Posted By: "tools"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: please post a picSounds good, Douwe -- I'll do that just as soon as I get mine finished.Should be by mid-summer (2017) hope - I hope - I hope. ChuckOn Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 8:09 AM, Douwe Blumberg wrote:> Hey all,>>> Just started a thread on the new BPA webpage. in the photo section under> "non-historical" air camper & Sky Scout photos. let's all start posting> photos of our finished airplanes there along with some info about it and> over time it should become a real fascinating resource and inspiration for> all.>>> Douwe>________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Toolstock???
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: please post a picSounds good, Douwe -- I'll do that just as soon as I get mine finished.Should be by mid-summer (2017) hope - I hope - I hope. ChuckOn Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 8:09 AM, Douwe Blumberg wrote:> Hey all,>>> Just started a thread on the new BPA webpage. in the photo section under> "non-historical" air camper & Sky Scout photos. let's all start posting> photos of our finished airplanes there along with some info about it and> over time it should become a real fascinating resource and inspiration for> all.>>> Douwe>________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Toolstock???