Brodhead Pietenpol Association

Original Posted By: Michael Brusilow
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Oshkosh 1999>Gentlemen->> I know it's only January but I would like to take a straw>poll of everyone on-line to see who may possibly be coming WITH>their Piet to EAA 99 for the 70th year Anniversary.>Try to be realistic- I know everyone who's close would like to say>yes, but for estimating the count I'd rather hedge on the more>definite possibilities.> REMEMBER even if you have just started your Piet or maybe>have a year or so to finish you too can contribute to this event's>success by spreading the word to anyone who>has a flying Piet/GN-1 to seriously consider joining our squadron>of Bernie's beauties. This is our golden opportunity to give thiswonderful>little affordable design a place in the spotlight and give a shot in thearm>to guys who just can't afford a Glassair or Lancair.>> Earl Myers here in OH has a beautiful Ford powered Sky Scout>covered and on the gear which I'm hoping will make the trip to Wisc.>this summer and I hope many more of you might also be able to>make a strong showing at Oshkosh. It's not too late to kick it in high>gear. Last year at this time I JUST finished fabric covering and was>starting to put on the silver, etc. and just made the trip to Wisc. intime.>> Grant MacLaren is spearheading this effort with EAA and seeing that>this is his>last official year as our BPAN editor we should not only try to make this>a banner year as a tribute to the Pietenpol family, but to show thanks toGrant>for all he has so freely given to us.>>Mike C.>>________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Phil Peck
Gentlemen- I know it's only January but I would like to take a strawpoll of everyone on-line to see who may possibly be coming WITHtheir Piet to EAA 99 for the 70th year Anniversary. Try to be realistic- I know everyone who's close would like to sayyes, but for estimating the count I'd rather hedge on the moredefinite possibilities. REMEMBER even if you have just started your Piet or maybehave a year or so to finish you too can contribute to this event's success by spreading the word to anyone whohas a flying Piet/GN-1 to seriously consider joining our squadronof Bernie's beauties. This is our golden opportunity to give this wonderfullittle affordable design a place in the spotlight and give a shot in the armto guys who just can't afford a Glassair or Lancair. Earl Myers here in OH has a beautiful Ford powered Sky Scout covered and on the gear which I'm hoping will make the trip to Wisc.this summer and I hope many more of you might also be able tomake a strong showing at Oshkosh. It's not too late to kick it in highgear. Last year at this time I JUST finished fabric covering and wasstarting to put on the silver, etc. and just made the trip to Wisc. in time. Grant MacLaren is spearheading this effort with EAA and seeing thatthis is hislast official year as our BPAN editor we should not only try to make thisa banner year as a tribute to the Pietenpol family, but to show thanks to Grantfor all he has so freely given to us.Mike C. ________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Gary Gower
I wasn't aware that a Piet could fly enverted. But I always wondered ifone could fly (inverted)mboynton(at)excite.com wrote:> To all:>> I didn't realize a Piet was capable of that - at least not exiting in> one> piece. Just what are its limits? Don't think I'd like to try and> duplicate> that feat.>> Mark Boynton> Phoenix, AZ>>> > Back in the late 60's or early 70's Forrest Lovely flew an original> "Piet"> > from Minn. to Maine. When he departed Albany NY he did a snap roll> on> > departure. He was only 16 or 17 at the time and there was a picture> and> > article in the ALB newspaper about this kid doing a cross country in> a> 1930> > vintage homebuilt airplane.> >> > Gordon Brimhall wrote:> >> > > Well looks you have an aerobatic piet.> > >> > > get that 0-290 in it and you will be able to do snap rolls.> > >> > > nice that the plane will hold together.> > >> > > Gordon> > >> > > Eli or Robert or Teresa Bozeman wrote:> > >> > > > the recovery was to badddddd, it jecked the stick out of my> hand, an> i> > > > grabbed it and started to force it back, an thought it was going> to> > > > set me up for a flat spin , so i relaxed a sec. an thought OK> > > > spin...forward, opposit rudder....no!!!!upside down...back,> > > > toprudder..3 turns an I'sss out of it!!!!> > > > don't ever want to do that again. On my plane if you go into a> tight> > > > turn, it'll roll on over on to its back realy quick, may have a> riggin> > > > problem???but I've got it in my hanger right now puttin a 0-290> (125> > > > hp) on it for a super Peit, just more climb realy no more going> under> > > > powerlines, its one thing going under lines cause you want to> but not> > > > cause you have toooooooo> > > >> > > > ---Dean Dayton wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Was there any indication of structural damage? I've read that> the> > > > Piet> > > > > wings are only good for about 1g inverted.> > > > >> > > > > Was the recovery difficult or just scary?> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >Sorry Rob but your not the only Peit to go enverted!!!> > > > > > I put my peit into a enverted spin, hope I never do that> agin!!!!> > > > I's> > > > > >doing a modified split-S, I thought kinda like a wing over,> stuck> in> > > > > >to much rudder and stall upside down, did 3 turns scared me> worse> > > > than> > > > > >my pax,> > > > > >anyway Peits forevere if you keep em rightside up!!!!> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> >> >> > --> >> >> *>> *> >> > David B.Schober, CPE> > Instructor, Aviation Maintenance> > Fairmont State College> > National Aerospace Education Center> > Rt. 3 Box 13> > Bridgeport, WV 26330-9503> > (304) 842-8300> >> >> > When once you have tasted flight, you will always walk with your> eyes> > turned skyward, for there you have been and there you will always> be.> >> >>> _______________________________________________________--Check out Crusader Toys @http://www.thegrid.net/crusader/_______ ... __________

Original Posted By: Michael D Cuy
Mike,C-GDCB from Toronto will be there. I'm also organizing a Southern Ontarionflyout to Brodhead for the 70th. Brian Kenney, Jim Armstrong, Jack Watson,Stan Vander Ploeg have all indicated they will fly in a gaggle to Brodhead.I'm going to be working on Charlie Barker, and Peter Mchugh to come when wemeet for our Canadian Mid-winter Break (Party) in Feb.99.RegardsDomenico Bellissimo-----Original Message-----

Original Posted By: Phil Peck
I plan on being there.TedNaples, FL>Gentlemen- >> I know it's only January but I would like to take a straw>poll of everyone on-line to see who may possibly be coming WITH>their Piet to EAA 99 for the 70th year Anniversary. >Try to be realistic- I know everyone who's close would like to say>yes, but for estimating the count I'd rather hedge on the more>definite possibilities. > REMEMBER even if you have just started your Piet or maybe>have a year or so to finish you too can contribute to this event's >success by spreading the word to anyone who>has a flying Piet/GN-1 to seriously consider joining our squadron>of Bernie's beauties. This is our golden opportunity to give this wonderful>little affordable design a place in the spotlight and give a shot in the arm>to guys who just can't afford a Glassair or Lancair. > > Earl Myers here in OH has a beautiful Ford powered Sky Scout >covered and on the gear which I'm hoping will make the trip to Wisc.>this summer and I hope many more of you might also be able to>make a strong showing at Oshkosh. It's not too late to kick it in high>gear. Last year at this time I JUST finished fabric covering and was>starting to put on the silver, etc. and just made the trip to Wisc. in time.>> Grant MacLaren is spearheading this effort with EAA and seeing that>this is his>last official year as our BPAN editor we should not only try to make this>a banner year as a tribute to the Pietenpol family, but to show thanks to Grant>for all he has so freely given to us.>>Mike C. >>________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Michael Brusilow
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Oshkosh 1999>Mike,>>I plan on camping. Do you think we will be able to camp in this "special">area? Where will you be staying?>>Ted>>>>I plan on being there.>>>>>>Ted>>>Naples, FL>>>>>>TED- EXCELLENT !!!>>>>Grant MacLaren has just asked me to be the 'clearinghouse'>>to keep track of who is coming to EAA 99.>>EAA is planning on having us all fly in together and giving>>us special parking all together. More later from Grant I'm>>sure.>>>>Mike C. If I remember correctly, there is a daily charge to access the flightline whether you have an aircraft on exhibit or not. Am I correct? Mike B ( Piet N687MB )>>>>>>________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Gordon Brimhall
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Oshkosh 1999>>>Michael D Cuy wrote:>>> >I plan on being there.>> >>> >Ted>> >Naples, FL>>>> TED- EXCELLENT !!!>>>> Grant MacLaren has just asked me to be the 'clearinghouse'>> to keep track of who is coming to EAA 99.>> EAA is planning on having us all fly in together and giving>> us special parking all together. More later from Grant I'm>> sure.>>>> Mike C.>>Are those of us who are still in the building stage invited to come>join this party and camp out with all you lucky people who are flying>yours?>>Gordon>Wing Ribs Layed Out.>>________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Michael D Cuy
>I plan on being there.>>Ted>Naples, FLTED- EXCELLENT !!!Grant MacLaren has just asked me to be the 'clearinghouse'to keep track of who is coming to EAA 99.EAA is planning on having us all fly in together and givingus special parking all together. More later from Grant I'm sure.Mike C. ________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Earl Myers
Michael D Cuy wrote:> >I plan on being there.> >> >Ted> >Naples, FL>> TED- EXCELLENT !!!>> Grant MacLaren has just asked me to be the 'clearinghouse'> to keep track of who is coming to EAA 99.> EAA is planning on having us all fly in together and giving> us special parking all together. More later from Grant I'm> sure.>> Mike C.Are those of us who are still in the building stage invited to comejoin this party and camp out with all you lucky people who are flyingyours?GordonWing Ribs Layed Out.________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: steve(at)byu.edu
---Gordon Brimhall wrote:> > > Michael D Cuy wrote:> > > >I plan on being there.> > >> > >Ted> > >Naples, FL> >> > TED- EXCELLENT !!!> >> > Grant MacLaren has just asked me to be the 'clearinghouse'> > to keep track of who is coming to EAA 99.> > EAA is planning on having us all fly in together and giving> > us special parking all together. More later from Grant I'm> > sure.> >> > Mike C.> > Are those of us who are still in the building stage invited to come> join this party and camp out with all you lucky people who are flying> yours?> > Gordon> Wing Ribs Layed Out.I surely hope so! Anyone near Maine going that I can split costs with?Richard18 ribs & 3 tail pieces glued.==http://www.wrld.com/w3builder__________ ... __________

Original Posted By: Gordon Brimhall
I'm sure they would love to have some static display there as well. Theywould probably give you the cover of the 'Homebuilder's Tent'. Maybe whileGrant is having discussions with the EAA he can negotiate the space forsomeone interested in setting up a display. Then everyone can also enjoy howbeautiful the Piet is unfinished.Regards,Domenic-----Original Message-----

Original Posted By:> Gordon Brimhall
Yes I could probably supply a rib or two and some other tid bits. If we make itwe will have our camper, What arrangements are being make for camping? I knowyou fly Boys can sleep under your wings but I am not going to sleep under myNissan.GordonRaffaele Bellissimo wrote:> I'm sure they would love to have some static display there as well. They> would probably give you the cover of the 'Homebuilder's Tent'. Maybe while> Grant is having discussions with the EAA he can negotiate the space for> someone interested in setting up a display. Then everyone can also enjoy how> beautiful the Piet is unfinished.> Regards,> Domenic> -----Original Message-----

Original Posted By: Ted Brousseau
Gordon Brimhall wrote:> > Yes I could probably supply a rib or two and some other tid bits. If we makeit> we will have our camper, What arrangements are being make for camping? I know> you fly Boys can sleep under your wings but I am not going to sleep under my> Nissan.> GordonCamping is no problem. Any EAA member can pitch camp in the adjacentCamp Scholler for a nominal fee (about $14/day) which includes access togreat showers open 24 hours a day. Join the other 40,000 people who campthere every year - its great.LarryP.S. Special thanks to Ken Beanlands for the airplane graphic that Istole.Aviation is proof, that given the will, we have the capacity to achievethe impossible.________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: lpasley
Well that is better than Motel 6If we do come we will sleep in our camper and the showers will feel real good.Wehave friends in the Milwaukee area but would prefer to be where the action is.ThanksGordonPS. Yes I am a EAA Member and may even start a Chapter here in my area as I justrecthe information and mailing list from them last week. I started a club a few yearsago up north and it is still going strong.Gerard "Larry" Huber wrote:> Gordon Brimhall wrote:> >> > Yes I could probably supply a rib or two and some other tid bits. If we makeit> > we will have our camper, What arrangements are being make for camping? I know> > you fly Boys can sleep under your wings but I am not going to sleep under my> > Nissan.> >> Gordon>> Camping is no problem. Any EAA member can pitch camp in the adjacent> Camp Scholler for a nominal fee (about $14/day) which includes access to> great showers open 24 hours a day. Join the other 40,000 people who camp> there every year - its great.>> Larry>> P.S. Special thanks to Ken Beanlands for the airplane graphic that I> stole.>> (_) (_)> Aviation is proof, that given the will, we have the capacity to achieve> the impossible.________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Gordon Brimhall
Mike,I plan on camping. Do you think we will be able to camp in this "special"area? Where will you be staying?Ted>>I plan on being there.>>>>Ted>>Naples, FL>>>TED- EXCELLENT !!!>>Grant MacLaren has just asked me to be the 'clearinghouse'>to keep track of who is coming to EAA 99.>EAA is planning on having us all fly in together and giving>us special parking all together. More later from Grant I'm >sure.>>Mike C. >>________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Ted Brousseau
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Original Posted By: John Duprey
My pleasure. Funny enough, Ive seen it popping up on other e-mails around thenewsgroups. Kinda cool to see my creation being proliferated :-)Boy, I am a geek!Ken> P.S. Special thanks to Ken Beanlands for the airplane graphic that I> stole.> > Aviation is proof, that given the will, we have the capacity to achieve> the impossible.> ________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: "Gerard "Larry" Huber"
Michael Brusilow wrote:> > If I remember correctly, there is a daily charge to access the flight> line whether you have an aircraft on exhibit or not. Am I correct?> That's correct - last year they changed the policy and there is only oneadmission charge that includes flightline access. If you fly in you arealready on the flightline & if you stay there you don't need a passuntil you go off the flightline and try to get back in. If you camp byyour plane (only is designated areas) you will need to purchase thecamper credentials and flightline pass at that time. For thoseindividuals that arrive early with a show plane, there is a limitedamount of camping in the trees south of the Theater in the Woods - Itfills fast and there are regular villages that spring up for theconvention (Sally's Oaken Alley and the Cajun Condo's or Corner etc.)Security makes sure everyone has camper credentials. Hope this helps.LarryAviation is proof, that given the will, we have the capacity to achievethe impossible.________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: michael list
Regrets, I just can't handle 25-30 messages a day, half of which have nobearing on building Pietenpols.Unsubscribe.Jim________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: "Gerard "Larry" Huber"
Gee Wiz JimGo back to your business if you can't handle the pressure. What did youexpect from a bunch of people who like to talk to each other?GordonJim Weir wrote:> Regrets, I just can't handle 25-30 messages a day, half of which have no> bearing on building Pietenpols.>> Unsubscribe.>> Jim________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: "D.J.H."
Gordon, While I choose not to unsubscribe, I would respectfully make essentiallythe same request......for personal communications between individuals, simplyuse the attached direct e-mail address, which appears at the top of eachmessage. Lately, this forum has been used for long reviews of personal history and"gibber jabber" that has absolutely nothing to do with building a Pietenpol,and I would, hopefully gently, remind you that this is a "Pietenpol Forum".Will you go take the microphone at Broadhead or Oshkosh and carry on thesepersonal conversations in front of 130 people there. I seriously doubt it,yet that is what you have been doing regularly on this forum. Lastly, I personally find your mean spirited comment towards Jim to beunacceptable and not in the spirit of this group, and I would ask that yourefrain from this behavior.Best Regards,WarrenGordon Brimhall wrote:> Gee Wiz Jim>> Go back to your business if you can't handle the pressure. What did you> expect from a bunch of people who like to talk to each other?>> Gordon>> Jim Weir wrote:>> > Regrets, I just can't handle 25-30 messages a day, half of which have no> > bearing on building Pietenpols.> >> > Unsubscribe.> >> > Jim________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Gordon Brimhall
Yes I agree that my message to Jim was with tongue in cheek and not in goodtaste.But that is all I agree on. And if I say things on this list that you think arelong reviews and personnal history I say I like to learn more about the memberson this list and enjoy their personnal stories.Sorry you don't like to hear mine.GordonWarren Shoun wrote:> Gordon,> While I choose not to unsubscribe, I would respectfully make essentially> the same request......for personal communications between individuals, simply> use the attached direct e-mail address, which appears at the top of each> message.> Lately, this forum has been used for long reviews of personal history and> "gibber jabber" that has absolutely nothing to do with building a Pietenpol,> and I would, hopefully gently, remind you that this is a "Pietenpol Forum".> Will you go take the microphone at Broadhead or Oshkosh and carry on these> personal conversations in front of 130 people there. I seriously doubt it,> yet that is what you have been doing regularly on this forum.> Lastly, I personally find your mean spirited comment towards Jim to be> unacceptable and not in the spirit of this group, and I would ask that you> refrain from this behavior.> Best Regards,> Warren>> Gordon Brimhall wrote:>> > Gee Wiz Jim> >> > Go back to your business if you can't handle the pressure. What did you> > expect from a bunch of people who like to talk to each other?> >> > Gordon> >> > Jim Weir wrote:> >> > > Regrets, I just can't handle 25-30 messages a day, half of which have no> > > bearing on building Pietenpols.> > >> > > Unsubscribe.> > >> > > Jim________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Craig & Shari Hanson
Warren I'm sorry I forgot to answer one of your questions on your flame to me.Warren Shoun wrote:> Gordon,>> Will you go take the microphone at Broadhead or Oshkosh and carry on these> personal conversations in front of 130 people there. I seriously doubt it,By all means Warren. Don't give me a Microphone if you want to only hear aboutPietenpols at Broadhead. I also have been a Ham radio guy for 22 years and justlove a mic in my hand. Also an ex Supervisor who loved to speak to a group.ThanksGordonKB6IE Advanced ClassBoard member ex ofRadio Amatures of Long BeachPast Club Sponser "Delta Brewing Club"About to start a EAA Chapter here.________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Joe & Marian Beck
> Yes I agree that my message to Jim was with tongue in cheek and> not in good> taste.>> But that is all I agree on. And if I say things on this list that> you think are> long reviews and personnal history I say I like to learn more> about the members> on this list and enjoy their personnal stories.>> Sorry you don't like to hear mine.Hey, I merely made the point that personal discussions should remainpersonal discussions and I didn't have the time to wade through that muchwasted bandwidth every day. I merely requested to be deleted from the list,not to change the way the list was run. Your list, do with it as you seefit.On the other hand, if the foo shits, wear it.Jim________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Warren Shoun
Jim Weir wrote:> > Yes I agree that my message to Jim was with tongue in cheek and> > not in good> > taste.> >> > But that is all I agree on. And if I say things on this list that> > you think are> > long reviews and personnal history I say I like to learn more> > about the members> > on this list and enjoy their personnal stories.> >> > Sorry you don't like to hear mine.>> Hey, I merely made the point that personal discussions should remain> personal discussions and I didn't have the time to wade through that much> wasted bandwidth every day. I merely requested to be deleted from the list,> not to change the way the list was run. Your list, do with it as you see> fit.>> On the other hand, if the foo shits, wear it.>> JimYes Jim one of the shoes fit me to a TEE, Thats the one where I get off topicand make a mistake and probably say something about my other hobby, Biking withHarleys and I think it raises the Dander with some who still watch too manyMarlon Brando Movies.But harley Davidson and the Wright Bros share the same year for their 100thAnniversary.Now the other shoe is the one where I only want to talk airplanes.My suggestion on one of the other 9 lists I am on is to put XXX in front of theTopic. That flags the topic as being Off Topic.Then you just delete all of them.I pay 14.95 for all the Bandwith I want, Unlimited. Surfree.comAnyway Jim, I was in Error with my Tongue in cheek message to you, Probablybecause of my roommate I had in the Air Force was always saying something funny,Remember my message to you a few moths ago.I must of thought I was back in the60'sMy roomate was named Jim WeirHave a nice day and we hope you stay in this fine group.Gordon________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: mboynton(at)excite.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: RE: Oshkosh 1999Mr. Weir,Before you go, would be willing to shed some light onan antenna installation in a Pietenpol.I will be hiding an antenna in the vertical fin (for theoccasional need to use a hand-held) and would like toknow where the groundplane should be located, howbig, what material, etc...Thanks for your help, Greg CardinalHi Greg:I am not the late Mr Weir but I can tell you how I handled my antennas.I have two antennas, a handheld & a GPS. I placed the antennas on thealuminum fairing, left & right, between the center section & wing.Mike B ( Piet N687MB ).________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Jim Weir
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: RE: Oshkosh 1999>Mr. Weir,>>Before you go, would be willing to shed some light on>an antenna installation in a Pietenpol.>I will be hiding an antenna in the vertical fin (for the>occasional need to use a hand-held) and would like to>know where the groundplane should be located, how>big, what material, etc...>>Thanks for your help, Greg Cardinal>>>>> Jim Weir 01/09 6:43 PM >>>>Regrets, I just can't handle 25-30 messages a day, half of which have no>bearing on building Pietenpols.>>Unsubscribe.>>Jim>>________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Michael D Cuy
>Yes I could probably supply a rib or two and some other tid bits. If wemake it>we will have our camper, What arrangements are being make for camping? I know>you fly Boys can sleep under your wings but I am not going to sleep under my>Nissan.>>Gordon>Gordon- They have all kinds of camping at EAA but as usual, first come,first serveso if you arrive later during the convention you'll have lots of walking instore. As faras the guys who fly in with their Piets they want to park us all in onebunch and if I'm not mistaken it will be in custom plane parking, not camping parking....butthat remainsto be worked out. ps- there is no camping in the custom plane area. Mike C. ________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Michael D Cuy
>I'm sure they would love to have some static display there as well. They>would probably give you the cover of the 'Homebuilder's Tent'. Maybe while>Grant is having discussions with the EAA he can negotiate the space for>someone interested in setting up a display. Then everyone can also enjoy how>beautiful the Piet is unfinished.>Regards,>DomenicGrant is open for assistance from any of you who are willing to help. Heis a verynice guy and knows how to make things happen. Very professional yet fun andgood sense of humor. To help out with this EAA thing is to pass the torch toyoung homebuilders too who can't afford the expensive planes. Mike C. ________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Michael D Cuy
>Mike,>>I plan on camping. Do you think we will be able to camp in this "special">area? Where will you be staying?>>TedTed- This is a good question which has yet to be worked out. I'm sure evenif they bunch us together in showplane/custom parking we can walk to CampScholler and camp their. I stay at Ripon U. dorm rooms.Mike C. ________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Michael D Cuy
>> If I remember correctly, there is a daily charge to access the flight>line whether you have an aircraft on exhibit or not. Am I correct?>> Mike B ( Piet N687MB )Mike - You are right on. Last year (for the first time ever) I arriveon therunway side of the admission gates and simply when registering my homebuiltpaid for whatever day/week pass I chose and walked around just like if I'd havearrived by car. There was NO charge for parking the plane and the fueltrucks were available pronto. Aircraft camping is a different story- there is a3 day min.at about 14$/day or something....but that fills way early. ________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Earl Myers
Mr. Weir,Before you go, would be willing to shed some light onan antenna installation in a Pietenpol.I will be hiding an antenna in the vertical fin (for theoccasional need to use a hand-held) and would like toknow where the groundplane should be located, howbig, what material, etc...Thanks for your help, Greg Cardinal>>> Jim Weir 01/09 6:43 PM >>>Regrets, I just can't handle 25-30 messages a day, half of which have nobearing on building Pietenpols.Unsubscribe.Jim________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Greg Cardinal
There is a company advertising in Trade a Plane for Antennas with built inGround planes in the fashion of a ribbon...they are located in Missouri,Florrisant, I think.....-----Original Message-----

Original Posted By: Jim Weir
Sure, if I knew what was inside the vertical fin for structure...Jim> -----Original Message-----> Greg Cardinal> Sent: Monday, January 11, 1999 6:22 AM> To: Pietenpol Discussion> Subject: Re: RE: Oshkosh 1999> > > Mr. Weir,> > Before you go, would be willing to shed some light on> an antenna installation in a Pietenpol.> I will be hiding an antenna in the vertical fin (for the > occasional need to use a hand-held) and would like to> know where the groundplane should be located, how> big, what material, etc...> > Thanks for your help, Greg Cardinal> > >>> Jim Weir 01/09 6:43 PM >>>> Regrets, I just can't handle 25-30 messages a day, half of which have no> bearing on building Pietenpols.> > Unsubscribe.> > Jim> > > ________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By:> Greg Cardinal
Yep. Antenna Dynamics. They get $100 for what I get $5. Your choice.Jim> -----Original Message-----> Earl Myers> Sent: Monday, January 11, 1999 8:30 AM> To: Pietenpol Discussion> Subject: Re: RE: Oshkosh 1999>>> There is a company advertising in Trade a Plane for Antennas with built in> Ground planes in the fashion of a ribbon...they are located in Missouri,> Florrisant, I think.....> -----Original Message-----

Original Posted By:> Greg Cardinal
Well Jim,What do I get for $ 5.00 and where do I send the check?Greg>>> Jim Weir 01/11 11:39 AM >>>Yep. Antenna Dynamics. They get $100 for what I get $5. Your choice.Jim> -----Original Message-----> Earl Myers> Sent: Monday, January 11, 1999 8:30 AM> To: Pietenpol Discussion> Subject: Re: RE: Oshkosh 1999>>> There is a company advertising in Trade a Plane for Antennas with builtin> Ground planes in the fashion of a ribbon...they are located in Missouri,> Florrisant, I think.....> -----Original Message-----

Original Posted By: Michael D Cuy
>Are those of us who are still in the building stage invited to come>join this party and camp out with all you lucky people who are flying>yours?>>Gordon>Wing Ribs Layed Out.Gordon- YOU bet your sweet spruce you are. That's how I kept goingduring my building phase was by seeing the flying Piets once a summer. Seeing how much funa finished one was set a fire under me to keep plugginig away so I couldbe with the flying group sooner ! (not to mention you'll probably get aride in one if you hang long enough)Mike C. ________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Michael Brusilow
Sounds good. I may or may not make it to Broadhead this year but I plan tomake it to Corona in April for the Fly-In and I hear their were some Pietstheir last year.ThanksGordonMichael D Cuy wrote:> >Are those of us who are still in the building stage invited to come> >join this party and camp out with all you lucky people who are flying> >yours?> >> >Gordon> >Wing Ribs Layed Out.>> Gordon- YOU bet your sweet spruce you are. That's how I kept going> during my building phase> was by seeing the flying Piets once a summer. Seeing how much fun> a finished one was set a fire under me to keep plugginig away so I could> be with the flying group sooner ! (not to mention you'll probably get a> ride in one if you hang long enough)>> Mike C.________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Jim Weir
Jim,The fin is fabric covered wood. The space to work withis 5/8" wide, 12" deep and 24" high. These measurments are approx.Greg>>> Jim Weir 01/11 11:39 AM >>>Sure, if I knew what was inside the vertical fin for structure...Jim> -----Original Message-----> Greg Cardinal> Sent: Monday, January 11, 1999 6:22 AM> To: Pietenpol Discussion> Subject: Re: RE: Oshkosh 1999>>> Mr. Weir,>> Before you go, would be willing to shed some light on> an antenna installation in a Pietenpol.> I will be hiding an antenna in the vertical fin (for the> occasional need to use a hand-held) and would like to> know where the groundplane should be located, how> big, what material, etc...>> Thanks for your help, Greg Cardinal>> >>> Jim Weir 01/09 6:43 PM >>>> Regrets, I just can't handle 25-30 messages a day, half of which have no> bearing on building Pietenpols.>> Unsubscribe.>> Jim>>________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Gordon Brimhall
> Jim,> The fin is fabric covered wood. The space to work with> is 5/8" wide, 12" deep and 24" high. These measurments are approx.>> Greg>> >>> Jim Weir 01/11 11:39 AM >>>> Sure, if I knew what was inside the vertical fin for structure...And there is no metal of any sort within this structure? Hinges? Flyingwires? Control cables?Jim________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Jim Weir
Aluminum hinges with steel hinge pins. Steelmachine screws bolt the hinges to the fin. Steel fittings bolt the fin tothe fuselage. No cables inside fin. Steel bracing cables bolted to thefin. No lightsor other electrical items.Greg C.>>> Jim Weir 01/12 10:23 AM >>>> Jim,> The fin is fabric covered wood. The space to work with> is 5/8" wide, 12" deep and 24" high. These measurments are approx.>> Greg>> >>> Jim Weir 01/11 11:39 AM >>>> Sure, if I knew what was inside the vertical fin for structure...And there is no metal of any sort within this structure? Hinges? Flyingwires? Control cables?Jim________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Gordon Brimhall
> Aluminum hinges with steel hinge pins. Steel> machine screws bolt the hinges to the fin. Steel fittings bolt> the fin to the fuselage. No cables inside fin. Steel bracing> cables bolted to the fin. No lights> or other electrical items.Can anybody make me a sorta-drawing of this? Not a full blown engineeringprint, but enough detail where I can see all the metal parts?Jim________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Michael Brusilow
Imagine Jim, subscribed to the Ultralight and/or the Trikes list.... about80 to 150 mails a day each :-)SaludosGary Gower>Gee Wiz Jim>>Go back to your business if you can't handle the pressure. What did you>expect from a bunch of people who like to talk to each other?>>Gordon>>>Jim Weir wrote:>>> Regrets, I just can't handle 25-30 messages a day, half of which have no>> bearing on building Pietenpols.>>>> Unsubscribe.>>>> Jim>>________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: "Gerard "Larry" Huber"
> Subject: Re: Oshkosh 1999>> >> >> >Michael D Cuy wrote:> >> >> >I plan on being there.> >> >> >> >Ted> >> >Naples, FL> >>> >> TED- EXCELLENT !!!> >>> >> Grant MacLaren has just asked me to be the 'clearinghouse'> >> to keep track of who is coming to EAA 99.> >> EAA is planning on having us all fly in together and giving> >> us special parking all together. More later from Grant I'm> >> sure.> >>> >> Mike C.> >> >Are those of us who are still in the building stage invited to come> >join this party and camp out with all you lucky people who are flying> >yours?> >> >Gordon> >Wing Ribs Layed Out.> >> >> >________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Michael Brusilow
> Subject: Re: RE: Oshkosh 1999>>> >Mr. Weir,> >> >Before you go, would be willing to shed some light on> >an antenna installation in a Pietenpol.> >I will be hiding an antenna in the vertical fin (for the> >occasional need to use a hand-held) and would like to> >know where the groundplane should be located, how> >big, what material, etc...> >> >Thanks for your help, Greg Cardinal> >> >>>> Jim Weir 01/09 6:43 PM >>>> >Regrets, I just can't handle 25-30 messages a day, half of which have no> >bearing on building Pietenpols.> >> >Unsubscribe.> >> >Jim> >> >>>________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Michael D Cuy
> Subject: Re: RE: Oshkosh 1999>>> >Mr. Weir,> >> >Before you go, would be willing to shed some light on> >an antenna installation in a Pietenpol.> >I will be hiding an antenna in the vertical fin (for the> >occasional need to use a hand-held) and would like to> >know where the groundplane should be located, how> >big, what material, etc...> >> >Thanks for your help, Greg Cardinal> >> >>>> Jim Weir 01/09 6:43 PM >>>> >Regrets, I just can't handle 25-30 messages a day, half of which haveno> >bearing on building Pietenpols.> >> >Unsubscribe.> >> >Jim> >> >>>________________________________________________________________________________