Brodhead Pietenpol Association

Original Posted By: "Carl Loar"
Thanks Gene, the discription of the cockpit combingcomes at the right time. I didn't want to just put paddingon the sheet metal as it still leaves a sharp edge underneathand is flimsy at that.You did a good job of clearly describing the process.RodgerPiet in progress________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Richard,,, When I built the fuse,, I left off the side plys and built theseat frames. Worked out well. I also have removable seat bottoms.Once the controls were done, I attached the ply sides and started the gear,,,a whole other story.Carl-----Original Message-----

Original Posted By: Michael D Cuy

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Mike,,, As to your reference to Tony Bingelis,,, I remember you and otherstalkingabout his books. Well as far as all the tech manuals,books,plans,etc thatI'vehad to get for this project,,, his is the best for dialing in problems. I'mworkingon my panel at the moment and his book is really helping. I highly recomendit.I got to grab a cessna and hop over your way to see your plane in person.I'm in Toledo so it should be a good little cruise.Carl-----Original Message-----

Original Posted By: "Warren D. Shoun"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: construction orderHey GuysCan anyone tell me where Brodhead is and what the dates are, I would like to try to get up there if I can. Thanx Gary New Orleans________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 09:56:24 -0700

Original Posted By: nle97(at)juno.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cockpit Combing>>Thanks Gene, the discription of the cockpit combing>comes at the right time. I didn't want to just put padding>on the sheet metal as it still leaves a sharp edge underneath>and is flimsy at that.I made the combing by using tubular foam which was slotted to fit over thecombing edge, layed on the cockpit sides, then overlayed with a strip ofquilted synthetic fabric. It was then sewn to the metal combing with leatherlacing ( small holes drilled into the combing ) & fixed to the cokpit sideswith small screws.No sharp edges, not flimsy.Mike B Piet N687MB ( Mr Sam )________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: nle97(at)juno.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: construction orderRichard, We installed the seats first althought the aft or pilot's seat bottom isstill not glued down. we found we had to modify the vee shaped hole atthe forward seat back inorder to get the fore/aft stick interconnect rodto fit.John LangstonPipe Creek, TXnle97(at)juno.com________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: fishin
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cockpit CombingWe had thought about putting the rubber foam over the comming edges butthis can still be cut in case of impact. The airport operator where wehave our project says to get some stiff plastic tubing with a slitin itto cover the edges first, then put on the foam and cover with leather orwhatever. The plastic tubing is harder and will not cut a easily. Rolling the edges sounds like the best bet though. I like this idea. An old Stearman I restored years ago had a garden hose under thecovering and this had been cut in couple of places. The Stearman alsohad an aluminum tube running along the side below the padding toreinforce the comming. This tube had also been broken from use.John LangstonPipe Creek, TXnle97(at)juno.com________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 14:17:52 -0500

Original Posted By: "Gene and Karen Rambo"
I left off the part about the cockpit padding because I had already offeredadvice no one had asked for. You usually cannot find foam pipe insulationwith a hole smaller than 1/2", which is too big and loose fitting. Iusually put on a piece of rubber hose that fits the rolled edge on theinside and is the same OD as the inside of the foam insulation. This maybe unnecessarily heavy on a Piet, though.________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Ben,Do you have a website where I could access pictures of how you did yourcockpit combing? Gary from Cool-----Original Message-----

Original Posted By: "Kyle85"
One of the great things about building an experimental airplanes is that you candemonstrate certain ideas and concepts. Turnbuckles are critical safety items,but I believe that there is a way to duplicate the function of an aviationgrade turnbuckle by using all aircraft grade parts for a fraction of the costand the satisfaction of overcoming a design problem. The picture below is somthingI drew up based on someones design that posted a picture of their turnbuckles.I am not an engineer, the reason I am posting this is to get opinions fromthose of you that have some real experiences and have knowledge that extendsbeyond my own. In the end I want a safe airplane and not break my limited budget.Oh yeah, this turnbucke(if I decide to follow through with it) will onlybe used in some areas such as inside the wing and maybe a few other places.--------Airspeed, altitude or brains: Two are always needed to successfully complete theflight.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/turn ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Any thoughts on this idea for turnbuckles

Original Posted By: "Greg Cardinal"
In my haste I just realized I wrote 7/16" bolt. That is just force of habbit asI am envisioning the bolt which is a 7/16 bolt head. The bolt I intended wouldbe a 1/4" by 28 threads/inch. Same goes with the 3/8" clevis bolt or bolt withthe steel spacer. Also, after another Maker's Mark I decided that this couldbe modified for a homemade cable quick disconnect system. Just use a shorterbolt and butt the straps together and THEN adjust your tension at the turnbuckle.Then, all you would have to do to put it back together is tighten up the"7/16" until it bottoms out and becomes snug. After that your cable tension shouldbe roughly the same.--------Airspeed, altitude or brains: Two are always needed to successfully complete theflight.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Original Posted By: "Kyle85"
Nice idea but I think you should increase the width and thickness of the steel strap. 3/4" wide X .063 or .080Also, an AN111 cable bushing instead of an AN100 thimble would be more appropriate.Greg CardinalMinneapolis----- Original Message -----

Original Posted By: "Clif Dawson"
Kyle,Just looked at your sketch, and my first thought was "How are you going to tightenthat nut/bolt?". I don't see how you would be able to get wrenches into thosespaces.When "eyeball engineering" things, it's always a good idea to draw your idea ina 1:1 scale. Draw every part as accurately as possible, including fasteners.Usually by creating an accurate scale drawing, the feasibility of your idea becomesmore clear (or not).Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Original Posted By: Ben Charvet
Here's a couple of pics of Tigermoth turnbucklesthat are on a Piet on Vancouver Island.Clif"I began my education at a very early age--in fact, right after I left college." (Winston Churchill)Subject: Pietenpol-List: Any thoughts on this idea for turnbuckles________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 08:37:53 -0400