Brodhead Pietenpol Association

Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
Group,I am nearly ready to join the two fuselage sides together and note that the plans call for two floor cross-braces of white ash where the landing gear locates. ( I will be using the cub style gear ).I can't find a supplier of white ash locally and was wondering if there are alternatives that can be used successfully. ( I can get oak and native hardwoods).Thanks,Rod WoollerChidlowAustraliaThe new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* ________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: "Oscar Zuniga"
Group,I am nearly ready to join the two fuselage sides together and note that the plans call for two floor cross-braces of white ash where the landing gear locates. ( I will be using the cub style gear ).I can't find a supplier of white ash locally and was wondering if there are alternatives that can be used successfully. ( I can get oak and native hardwoods).Thanks,Rod WoollerChidlowAustraliaThe new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* ________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: "Gene Rambo"
Rod,There are a couple of good reasons to use Ash, if you can get it. It ishard and dense, similar to Oak, but it doesn't split nearly as readily asOak. It has remarkable shock absorbing qualities (hence its use in makingbaseball bats and axe handles) and it doesn't splinter (which is why it isused in making parallel bars for gymnastics). Ash grows only in thenorthern hemisphere, but the European, North American and Japanese varietiesare interchangeable for lumber purposes. You might be able to find JapaneseAsh locally. The only other wood with similar shock absorbtion capabilitiesis American Hickory (which is used for cheap axe handles here), but it ismuch more prone to splitting and cracking than ash.This information all came from a book I bought years ago from theSmithsonian Institute called "What Wood is That?" What local hardwoods areused for axe handles? They would probably work.The Ash cross member is probably more crucial in the solid axle "Jenny"style landing gear, and could probably be safely substitued with otherhardwoods in the Cub style gear, as long as the steel strap under the bellyis included.Good luck,Jack -----Original Message-----Group,I am nearly ready to join the two fuselage sides together and note that theplans call for two floor cross-braces of white ash where the landing gearlocates. ( I will be using the cub style gear ).I can't find a supplier of white ash locally and was wondering if there arealternatives that can be used successfully. ( I can get oak and nativehardwoods).Thanks,Rod WoollerChidlowAustralia________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Jack Phillips
Just to throw in an observation, please note that the solid axle "Jenny"style gear does NOT have the ash pieces across the floorboard. If you putit in, you'll be sorry and have to modify your gear fittings substantially,like I have. I have found a source for ash in the northeast, a place thatmakes boat oars, but can't find the address this moment on my cluttereddesk. I'll post it when I find it.Gene Rambo----- Original Message -----

Original Posted By: "rod wooller"
Rod,I got all my ash and plywood here. They have lots of wood that I neverheard of. Got my ash out of their "scrap bargain bin". Maurice L Condon Co(914) 946-4111 250 Ferris AveWhite Plains, NYDid a search on Yahoo yellow pages to find them.walt----- Original Message -----

Original Posted By: "Gene Rambo"
Gene,Have never looked inside a fixed gear Piet. What holds the strut wingloading across the bottom of the fuse? Just the ply?walt----- Original Message -----

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Original Posted By: walter evans
I'd have to look, but I think the steel strap across the bottom of thefuselage holds the strut loads (or reinforces it, rather)Gene Rambo----- Original Message -----

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
I built the Jenny style gear, and have the ash crossmembers, but I modifiedthe gear and lift strut fittings to accommodate them. The ash members arein the original F&GM plans, but they have to be cut to allow Pietenpols gearfittings to be used.Jack -----Original Message-----

Original Posted By: "Graham Hansen"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: White AshI guess I missed something when I read the plans. I'm planning to use the Jenny-style gear and have already put in the ash cross members. What do I need to do to make it work? Tom Travis ________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: catdesigns(at)juno.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Continental 65Some one wrote"Chuck and the rest of you: one thing about the hard chrome cylinders you shouldknow. Hard Chrome is porous and provides NO additional corrosion protection."I believe this incorrect because of my experience engine parts. Once I bought a project that had been left out in the rain and weather, four cylinders had been removed, two were chromed, two were not. The plain steel cylinders were junk, the chromed cylinder were rust free in the bore, the only rust was on the outside, and on the unprotected flange. Just thought I might pass this along, so you guys with chrome would not worry to much.Dan ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 18:36:59 GMTSubject: Re:Pietenpol-List: White Ash

Original Posted By: "The Huizenga's"
>>>Group,>>I am nearly ready to join the two fuselage sides together and note that the>plans call for two floor cross-braces of white ash where the landing gear>locates. ( I will be using the cub style gear ).>>I can't find a supplier of white ash locally and was wondering if there are>alternatives that can be used successfully. ( I can get oak and native>hardwoods).>>Thanks,>>Rod Wooller>Chidlow>Australia>>>The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* >>________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 17:33:47 -0600