Pietenpol-List: Bending plywood
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=0A=0A=0A =0A =0A=0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ASteve, =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0AHere a couple pics of turtle decks made out of 1/8=9D Plywoodno=0Asteaming! =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0A =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0A =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0AGary Boothe =0A=0ACool, Ca. =0A=0APietenpol =0A=0AWW Corvair Conversion, mounted =0A=0ATail done, Fuselage on gear =0A=0A(15 ribs down) =0A=0A-----Original Message-----
=0A=0A=0A =0A =0A=0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ASteve, =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0AHere a couple pics of turtle decks made out of 1/8=9D Plywoodno=0Asteaming! =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0A =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0A =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0AGary Boothe =0A=0ACool, Ca. =0A=0APietenpol =0A=0AWW Corvair Conversion, mounted =0A=0ATail done, Fuselage on gear =0A=0A(15 ribs down) =0A=0A-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Ed's Piet
Original Posted By: "Richard Schreiber"
Dan,Yeah, the report from the 200 hour Cub pilot who flew the plane for the 1hour was that it was sensitive in pitch. We didn't know if there wassomething wrong with the rigging or maybe he had no experience with antiquedesigns. It turned out they had so much tension (turnbuckles way too tight)in the elevator system that you had to put allot of pressure on the stickto move it fore and aft.Ed changed several things he didn't like, one was a lift strut that lookedlike it had been bent and made straight! He went over the plane verythoroughly, which is fine with me since I wound up flying it.Skip> Sounds like there was a > lot of work done to get it in a stable flying state, and I just don't > have the time to tinker...> Cheers!> Dan________________________________________________________________________________
Dan,Yeah, the report from the 200 hour Cub pilot who flew the plane for the 1hour was that it was sensitive in pitch. We didn't know if there wassomething wrong with the rigging or maybe he had no experience with antiquedesigns. It turned out they had so much tension (turnbuckles way too tight)in the elevator system that you had to put allot of pressure on the stickto move it fore and aft.Ed changed several things he didn't like, one was a lift strut that lookedlike it had been bent and made straight! He went over the plane verythoroughly, which is fine with me since I wound up flying it.Skip> Sounds like there was a > lot of work done to get it in a stable flying state, and I just don't > have the time to tinker...> Cheers!> Dan________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Bending plywood
Original Posted By: "chase143"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Charlie Rubeck's ribs Does anyone remember how much Charlie was selling his sets of Piet ribs for when he was still alive? Was it $300 for the set of 31 ribs? Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Bending plywood
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Charlie Rubeck's ribs Does anyone remember how much Charlie was selling his sets of Piet ribs for when he was still alive? Was it $300 for the set of 31 ribs? Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Bending plywood
Original Posted By: John Franklin
Working on my turtle back and looking ahead to attaching a 4-5" piece of 1/8" plywoodover the stingers behind the cockpit, and at the rear where they meet.Do these need to be steamed, or does ply (Finnish Birch or Okoume) bend well enoughnot to require steaming? Just curious, not having cut the pieces yet.Thanks,SteveRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:22:29 -0500 (EST)
Working on my turtle back and looking ahead to attaching a 4-5" piece of 1/8" plywoodover the stingers behind the cockpit, and at the rear where they meet.Do these need to be steamed, or does ply (Finnish Birch or Okoume) bend well enoughnot to require steaming? Just curious, not having cut the pieces yet.Thanks,SteveRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:22:29 -0500 (EST)
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RE: Pietenpol-List: Bending plywood
Original Posted By:> chase143
Steve:I made mine out of 2 sheets of 1/16" plywood. Bent the first one cold andepoxied it in place. I let it cure overnight then laminated a second pieceto the first. Worked well. Here are a couple of photos.Rick Schreiber> [Original Message]
Steve:I made mine out of 2 sheets of 1/16" plywood. Bent the first one cold andepoxied it in place. I let it cure overnight then laminated a second pieceto the first. Worked well. Here are a couple of photos.Rick Schreiber> [Original Message]
Original Posted By: chase143
Steve,All my turtle decks are 1/8" mahogany marine plywood. They are also 1 1/2" tallerthan plans, meaning that the radius is actually smaller. No steaming...justfit, glue, clamp and nail. You may see some pics at West Coast Pets, or I cansend some tonight.Gary ------Original Message------
Steve,All my turtle decks are 1/8" mahogany marine plywood. They are also 1 1/2" tallerthan plans, meaning that the radius is actually smaller. No steaming...justfit, glue, clamp and nail. You may see some pics at West Coast Pets, or I cansend some tonight.Gary ------Original Message------
Re: Pietenpol-List: Bending plywood
Original Posted By: "chase143"
I used 1/16" and it bent just fine. no steaming, a few clamps and T-88--Jim Lagowski----- Original Message -----
I used 1/16" and it bent just fine. no steaming, a few clamps and T-88--Jim Lagowski----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending plywood
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Outstanding! Thanks guys. Great pictures and ideas. I'll check out WC Piet as well.But sounds like no steaming and maybe 1/16 is the way to go, hopefully thisweekend.Thanks again,SteveRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:26:41 -0800 (PST)
Outstanding! Thanks guys. Great pictures and ideas. I'll check out WC Piet as well.But sounds like no steaming and maybe 1/16 is the way to go, hopefully thisweekend.Thanks again,SteveRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:26:41 -0800 (PST)
Pietenpol-List: Re: Re Static port
Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
Any info on position of Pitot Static ports please.Is just using a drilled plug on the back of the ASI/Altimeter OK for an opencockpit?Regards Graham________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Re Static port
Any info on position of Pitot Static ports please.Is just using a drilled plug on the back of the ASI/Altimeter OK for an opencockpit?Regards Graham________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Re Static port
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending plywood
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Steve,Here a couple pics of turtle decks made out of 1/8" Plywood.no steaming!Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair Conversion, mountedTail done, Fuselage on gear(15 ribs down.)-----Original Message-----
Steve,Here a couple pics of turtle decks made out of 1/8" Plywood.no steaming!Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair Conversion, mountedTail done, Fuselage on gear(15 ribs down.)-----Original Message-----
Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
Should be... it's also ok for use in a closed non-pressurized cockpit. At leastthat is where backup static pressure is located. Right?--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Should be... it's also ok for use in a closed non-pressurized cockpit. At leastthat is where backup static pressure is located. Right?--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Bending plywood
Original Posted By: Robert Ray
Sorry, but I gave the wrong email address in the previous message regarding theHegy prop for sale. My correct address is dutchman77(at)gmail.com Contactme at the corrected address if you are interested in buying the Hegy 66X30Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 22:25:30 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Bending plywood
Sorry, but I gave the wrong email address in the previous message regarding theHegy prop for sale. My correct address is dutchman77(at)gmail.com Contactme at the corrected address if you are interested in buying the Hegy 66X30Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 22:25:30 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Bending plywood
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Original Posted By: jorge lizarraga
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending plywood
Original Posted By: Gary Boothe
Here's what I did. First I filled in and contoured the areawith really light and thick balsa then, using water basedcontact cement, glued on 1/32 ply for a hard surface. My thinking was that I was going to be putting weighton that area every time I got in or out so I wanted thesolidity of bulk but I also wanted the thinness where theply overlay the stringers so there wouldn't be a significantbump in the fabric. Yes I know, there's a certain amountof anal involved! I just can't help it. :-)Clif ----- Original Message -----
Here's what I did. First I filled in and contoured the areawith really light and thick balsa then, using water basedcontact cement, glued on 1/32 ply for a hard surface. My thinking was that I was going to be putting weighton that area every time I got in or out so I wanted thesolidity of bulk but I also wanted the thinness where theply overlay the stringers so there wouldn't be a significantbump in the fabric. Yes I know, there's a certain amountof anal involved! I just can't help it. :-)Clif ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending plywood
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending plywood
Original Posted By: Gary Boothe
Here's what I did. First I filled in and contoured the area with really light and thick balsa then, using water based contact cement, glued on 1/32 ply for a hard surface. My thinking was that I was going to be putting weight on that area every time I got in or out so I wanted the solidity of bulk but I also wanted the thinness where the ply overlay the stringers so there wouldn't be a significant bump in the fabric. Yes I know, there's a certain amount of anal involved! I just can't help it. Clif ----- Original Message -----
Here's what I did. First I filled in and contoured the area with really light and thick balsa then, using water based contact cement, glued on 1/32 ply for a hard surface. My thinking was that I was going to be putting weight on that area every time I got in or out so I wanted the solidity of bulk but I also wanted the thinness where the ply overlay the stringers so there wouldn't be a significant bump in the fabric. Yes I know, there's a certain amount of anal involved! I just can't help it. Clif ----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending plywood
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Re Static port
Original Posted By: "Dan Yocum"
Or.......If you want to see how fast (or slow) your going you can..... look down and see how fast things are going past, or, hold your hand out into the slip stream and judge your speed by the force of the wind. Not sure why 5 or even 10 mph makes any difference in a Piet. Fly the plane, fly the plane, fly the plane. Enjoy the plane, enjoy the plane, enjoy the plane.Just my 2 cents worthGeneN502R----- Original Message -----
Or.......If you want to see how fast (or slow) your going you can..... look down and see how fast things are going past, or, hold your hand out into the slip stream and judge your speed by the force of the wind. Not sure why 5 or even 10 mph makes any difference in a Piet. Fly the plane, fly the plane, fly the plane. Enjoy the plane, enjoy the plane, enjoy the plane.Just my 2 cents worthGeneN502R----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending plywood.exelent
Original Posted By: jorge lizarraga
Thanks Jorge. So the tank is vinyl ester resin. Apparently the only onethat is fuel proof. The guage is a very uniquely designed oil tank one.The dial and the float assembly have no physical connection whatsoever,The dial pointer and the floatshaft are magnetic. The hand follows thefloat arm magneticaly through the dividing wall.Oh, I forgot to mention before and didn't take pics but the tank has fourbaffles in it, two fore and aft and two across. They are glassed into thebottom but not the top.Clif ----- Original Message -----
Thanks Jorge. So the tank is vinyl ester resin. Apparently the only onethat is fuel proof. The guage is a very uniquely designed oil tank one.The dial and the float assembly have no physical connection whatsoever,The dial pointer and the floatshaft are magnetic. The hand follows thefloat arm magneticaly through the dividing wall.Oh, I forgot to mention before and didn't take pics but the tank has fourbaffles in it, two fore and aft and two across. They are glassed into thebottom but not the top.Clif ----- Original Message -----
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Bending plywood
Original Posted By: gboothe5(at)comcast.net
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Bending plywood>>> Working on my turtle back and looking ahead to attaching a 4-5" piece of1/8" plywood over the stingers behind the cockpit, and at the rear wherethey meet. Do these need to be steamed, or does ply (Finnish Birch orOkoume) bend well enough not to require steaming? Just curious, not havingcut the pieces yet.> Thanks,> Steve>>> Read this topic online here:>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Bending plywood
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Bending plywood>>> Working on my turtle back and looking ahead to attaching a 4-5" piece of1/8" plywood over the stingers behind the cockpit, and at the rear wherethey meet. Do these need to be steamed, or does ply (Finnish Birch orOkoume) bend well enough not to require steaming? Just curious, not havingcut the pieces yet.> Thanks,> Steve>>> Read this topic online here:>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Bending plywood
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Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending plywood
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Pietenpol-List: Sky Scout First Flight
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