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Pietenpol-List: Wonder why this never caught on?

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:11 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: helspersew(at)aol.com
I don't have any pictures of the modification. Sorry. Here's a photo of the locationI'm talking about. And yes, I'm talking about wrapping metal over thetop of these lugs and down the gear legs 1.5" or so. Obviously the metal reinforcementis clearanced between the lugs.If you're a good welder you probably wouldn't need to worry about it. I'm an amateurand I've had well-documented problems with these welds so I took the FAAman's advice.--------Kevin "Axel" PurteeNX899KPAustin/Georgetown, TXRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/land ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wonder why this never caught on?

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:13 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: "C N Campbell"
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Wonder why this never caught on?

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:40 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: helspersew(at)aol.com
Dan, if I didn't already have a set of wheels I might investigate this. Is this an old ad? Is the wheel still available? Chuck ----- Original Message -----

Re: Pietenpol-List: Wonder why this never caught on?

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:01 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: Ryan Mueller
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Pietenpol-List: Re: Wonder why this never caught on?

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:36 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: "RickBright"
'Axel' wrote->On the advice of the FAA, I wrapped and welded thin steel finger reinforcements>over the top of the lugs and then down onto the gear legs. That gives several>inches of welded support to the lugs instead of approximately 1.5" of welded>support in the case of the cantilevered arrangement. > > There's a reason I point this out.And there's a reason for builders to take heed. Don't ask me how I know, but let'sjust say it has to do with having your airplane up on sawhorses with the gearleg attach bracket weldments in pieces in your hand. It's not a very beefy designin the original setup.Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket"Medford, ORwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net/rogueairparts ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wonder why this never caught on?

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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:59 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: "tools"
Looks like the ones on the Indian were used with solid tires, maybe the introductionof pneumatic tires made the design not so popular? Cool idea and look, it amazes me some of the designs of the past that are forgotten.Really look good on the Indian, a polished functional pair would lookgreat on a Piet....RickRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wonder why this never caught on?

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:13 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Probably because of either materials/mfg methods of the time... or advertising.Recall the generally considered more better beta got beat by vhs, and the AllisChalmers snap coupler fell prey to the (ford or deere?) 3pt hitch.Doesn't mean it wouldn't work really well now. Appears there were all sorts ofrube goldberg methods of doing this, but those ackerman's look pretty good. toolsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 09:30:17 -0800 (PST)

Re: Pietenpol-List: Wonder why this never caught on?

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:32 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: helspersew
Actually some thing like this we will see in the near future.Michellin is testing it as an airless tire, see attachedMight have airplane applications, much lighter than a normal tire/wheel combinationHans-----Original Message-----

Re: Pietenpol-List: Wonder why this never caught on?

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:57 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: Ryan Mueller
Hey! That was even before MY time. C ----- Original Message -----

Re: Pietenpol-List: Instrument Panel?

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:59 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: helspersew(at)aol.com
This might seem like a simple question to some. When you laid out your instrumentpanel did you purchase the instruments first so you could trace them on tothe panel? How did you know what size hole to cut out for each? Thanks, FredRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Instrument Panel?

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:12 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: FandS_Piet
Fred,Instruments are mostly standard sizes, but if I were you, I would wait until I had ALL of the instruments in hand before I cut any holes. Chances are you will change your mind about something along the way. Dan HelsperPuryear, TN-----Original Message-----

Pietenpol-List: Instrument Panel?

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:38 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: John Franklin

Pietenpol-List: Instrument Panel?

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:57 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: Ben Charvet

Pietenpol-List: OLMSTED PROP & ACKERMAN WHEELS

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:52 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Subject: Pietenpol-List: OLMSTED PROP & ACKERMAN WHEELS> Found this photo of an Olmsted prop and Ackerman Wheels on a JN-4________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 12:46:26 -0800 (PST)

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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 5:43 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: jeff wilson

Pietenpol-List: Re: Instrument Panel?

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:39 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB"
As mentioned by others, measurements are standard for most aircraft instruments. The following website has all this information with dimensioning that could be transfered to a DXF file and cut out with a laser for a perfect fit http://www.mikesflightdeck.com/dimensio ... touts.html. Did this on my first Piet project and it worked out pretty good I think. Actuallycopied the look from Mike C. and maybe a few others.--------Adrian MWinnipeg, MBCanadaRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc0 ... __________

Re: Pietenpol-List: OLMSTED PROP & ACKERMAN WHEELS

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 12:44 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: jeff wilson
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: OLMSTED PROP & ACKERMAN WHEELShttp://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/shared/media/ ... 003.jpgthe third prop from the left is an Olmsted prop. Beautiful. ----- Original Message -----