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Pietenpol-List: Throttle Linkage

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:45 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
Does anyone out there have a picture of how their throttle linkage is hookedup? Specifically, I'm thinking of using a rod for control in both cockpits.How does this transition to cable and the carb?Thanks,JackJack TextorDSMNX1929T________________________________________________________________________________

RE: Pietenpol-List: Throttle Linkage

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:17 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Jack,I did not provide throttle control for the front, but it would have beenpossible to weld a small handle on the tubing. The rod transitions to acable with a "wire grip",http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/a ... p.php.Gary BootheNX308MB

RE: Pietenpol-List: Throttle Linkage

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:22 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Jack,Check out http://www.cpc-world.com/images/IMG_1044_JPG.jpg. This shows thefront throttle/Mix etc. The cables have clevis fork rod ends at each end.The rear one (http://www.cpc-world.com/images/IMG_0996_JPG.jpg) is the sameexcept rods/rod ends connect the levers. I had a standard clevis fork rodend on the carb end.I managed to get a clevis pin through the two rod ends and the lever on thefront levers by cutting one of the forks off the rod end making it into asingle connection J shaped as opposed to U shaped. Sorry I don't have anypictures.Hope that helps.PeterWonthaggi Australiahttp://www.cpc-world.com

Re: Pietenpol-List: Throttle Linkage

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:48 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: BRETT PHILLIPS
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Throttle Linkage

RE: Pietenpol-List: Throttle Linkage

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:02 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
That's what Mike Cuy uses as well. Similar to a Taylor Cub. I used the farmore advanced J-3 Cub as my model, with a rod between the two throttlequadrants, and a cable from the front quadrant to the carburetorJack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____

Pietenpol-List: Re: Throttle Linkage

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:32 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: "pineymb"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Throttle LinkageI used an 1/8" 4130 steel rod for my throttle control which is joined to a commercial (ACS or Wicks) throttle cableassembly via an aluminum connector that is threaded on both sides (like a turnbuckle but with locking jamb nuts oneither end) The connector was home made.The wooden ball (a drawer pull knob from Lowe's) is attached with an Adell clamp to the throttle rod.Mike C.(photo is of the passenger cockpit)[cid:image001.png(at)01CCF13C.75BF60F0]________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Throttle Linkage

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:41 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: "C N Campbell"
JackThis is what I did on my first Piet project and although it was a bit of work makingpush-rods and a bell crank, it worked quite well. In hind site I would ofused a different quadrant, but had these two on hand. The purpose of the bell-crankwas twofold, it reversed the action of the throttle lever and also providedthe transition from rod to cable. The throttle cable is a standard push/pullone from ACS with threaded ends.Hope this helps.--------Adrian MWinnipeg, MBCanadaRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dscn ... __________

Re: Pietenpol-List: More wing info

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:39 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]"
Ben, where did you hinge your flop? My ribs have a reinforcing member running from the bottom cap strip forward to the top cap strip, the bottom member is about 18 inches from the trailing edge (see attachment). I was thinking of putting my flop in at that diagonal member. Do you think this would allow room for an OLD man to get in and out of the cockpit? Chuck> I built a flop into mine too. I don't use it getting in, but it sure > helps when its time to get out!>> -- > Ben Charvet, PharmD> Staff Pharmacist> Parrish Medical center>>> ________________________________________________________________________________

Pietenpol-List: Re: Throttle Linkage

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:11 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: "BYD"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tony Bingelis: Firewall Forward Throttle LinkageAs you all know I get royalties every time I mention Tony's books (right!)but once again it dawned on me that these books are perfect for just aboutevery question we face building airplanes including the throttle question. What I love is that Tony gives you two or three ways to tackle a particulartask and then you can adapt whatever is best to your desires, airplane, andexpenses.Mike C.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Throttle Linkage

Pietenpol-List: Re: More wing info

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:56 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: "BYD"
Jack,I obtained a generic choke cable from a local auto parts store and broke the plastichandle off and then flattened that end then drilled a hole in it for a clevispin. The metal rod from the throttle quadrant terminates in a fork endinto which the flattened end fits and a clevis pin goes through to hold them together.The choke cable provides an acceptable firewall penetration with itsnormal mounting hardware and you have a wire ending at the carburetor for mountingto the linkage. A clamp to hold the outer sheathing is simple to make allowingadjustment. Simple and cheap but may not be to standards for some.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: More wing info

Re: Pietenpol-List: Tony Bingelis: Firewall Forward Throttle Linkage

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:58 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Jack(at)textors.com"
Rick,I made the same decision at the same time. BHP has been quoted as stating thata cutout is equivalent to shortening the wings by two feet.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Tony Bingelis: Firewall Forward Throttle Linkage

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:11 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: Ben Charvet
I agree Mike! I did check Tony out but I really appreciate other ideas as well.Thanks!Jack TextorSent from my iPadOn Feb 22, 2012, at 9:11 AM, "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]" wrote:> > As you all know I get royalties every time I mention Tony's books (right!)> but once again it dawned on me that these books are perfect for just about> every question we face building airplanes including the throttle question. > > What I love is that Tony gives you two or three ways to tackle a particular> task and then you can adapt whatever is best to your desires, airplane, and> expenses.> > Mike C.> > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:26:33 -0500

Pietenpol-List: Re: My Flop cutout

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:32 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Clif Dawson"
I did a similar thing with mine... installed a spar where the aileron spar wouldbe, but I really didn't want a flop so I just left it open. One thing I diddo was install a handle (a piece of 1.25x.049 4130 tube that will be pinned),but I'm not actually sure that it will be necessary or even useful. I didn'treally think about using the cabane struts. The hole is no big deal... I suppose I could cover it with fabric and never worryabout it. I'm not sure who all has a handle up there, but for those that do,does anyone find it useful?--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/fp05 ... __________

Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: My Flop cutout

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:33 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: Oscar Zuniga
Well, here's my flop. Open areas will be covered,top and bottom, with thin lexan.As for getting in and out, the process will be toput right foot in step right behind cockpit, swingleft leg onto seat, bring right leg in, turn aroundand sit down. Reverse when necessary. Onecan even stand there and salute if the Majahhappens by.Clif - STILL workin on the d#@ brakes! :-)> I did a similar thing with mine... installed a spar where the aileron spar > would be, but I really didn't want a flop so I just left it open. > Mark > Chouinard________________________________________________________________________________