Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
Here are a couple more.Dan HelsperPuryear, TN________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: More droopiness
RE: Pietenpol-List: More droopiness
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
I don't see any droop here, Dan. I see the illusion of droop, caused by theoutboard edge of the stabilizer not being in line with the outboard edge ofthe elevator.Look at a picture where the horizontal tail is edge-on to the camera. Droopis an illusion, except for perhaps a slight amount due to the downwash fromthe wing.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____
I don't see any droop here, Dan. I see the illusion of droop, caused by theoutboard edge of the stabilizer not being in line with the outboard edge ofthe elevator.Look at a picture where the horizontal tail is edge-on to the camera. Droopis an illusion, except for perhaps a slight amount due to the downwash fromthe wing.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____
RE: Pietenpol-List: More droopiness
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Damn fine looking!!Gary BootheNX308MB
Damn fine looking!!Gary BootheNX308MB
Pietenpol-List: More droopiness
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Pietenpol-List: Re: More droopiness
Original Posted By: "Greg Cardinal"
Hey Dan, I don't care about the slight droop, it just means you have a stableflight Ha. a little control pressure takes out some bumps. I have that beautifulpicture you sent me . It is going on the wall in my work-shop.It will remind me what my goal is, and it will be something to point to when thenon-airplane folks ask me what a pietenpol looks like.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Hey Dan, I don't care about the slight droop, it just means you have a stableflight Ha. a little control pressure takes out some bumps. I have that beautifulpicture you sent me . It is going on the wall in my work-shop.It will remind me what my goal is, and it will be something to point to when thenon-airplane folks ask me what a pietenpol looks like.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: More droopiness
Original Posted By: danhelsper(at)aol.com
A little droopiness is normal.See attached photo of Bob Poore and me.Greg Cardinal ----- Original Message -----
A little droopiness is normal.See attached photo of Bob Poore and me.Greg Cardinal ----- Original Message -----
RE: Pietenpol-List: More droopiness
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Is this where this list has gone now? A bunch of old men talking aboutdroopiness....... Well I think there is a pill that help with that.Do not achieve..
Is this where this list has gone now? A bunch of old men talking aboutdroopiness....... Well I think there is a pill that help with that.Do not achieve..
Pietenpol-List: More droopiness
Original Posted By: jim hyde
Re: Pietenpol-List: More droopiness
Original Posted By: danhelsper(at)aol.com
The slightly down elevator is its normal position in level flight. This due tothe down pressure of the moving air cylinder coming off the wing an applying aslight pressure force of downward moving air on the top of the elevator.WF2--------Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: More droopiness
The slightly down elevator is its normal position in level flight. This due tothe down pressure of the moving air cylinder coming off the wing an applying aslight pressure force of downward moving air on the top of the elevator.WF2--------Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: More droopiness
Re: Pietenpol-List: More droopiness
Original Posted By:> owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li
Hurry up and finish your Piet, so that you're not one of us old men talking about droopiness...GaryNX308MBSent from my iPhone> On Mar 28, 2014, at 10:20 PM, "Chris" wrote:> > Is this where this list has gone now? A bunch of old men talking about droopiness.......> > Well I think there is a pill that help with that.> > Do not achieve>
Hurry up and finish your Piet, so that you're not one of us old men talking about droopiness...GaryNX308MBSent from my iPhone> On Mar 28, 2014, at 10:20 PM, "Chris" wrote:> > Is this where this list has gone now? A bunch of old men talking about droopiness.......> > Well I think there is a pill that help with that.> > Do not achieve>
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: More droopiness
Original Posted By: Marcus Zechini
When I built my wooden gear I didn't feel comfortable with putting rivets throughthe metal plates at the crouch of the vee. I used number 8 fillister head(countersunk) AN509 machine screws. This made the head flush on the outsidebut needed a protruding screw end and nut on the inside plate. I found over timethat the protruding nut would cut into the shock cord. To solve this problemI tried an unconventional use of some hardware. I countered bored from the insideslightly and countersunk the inside plate and used a NAS1330A08-106 countersunkrivet nut. In case you are confused I didn't pull these rivet nuts I justused then as they came. A flush nut so to speak. You can use keyed nuts and cut a slot in the face of the counter sunk hole andthen some lock tight. Alternatively what I did was epoxied the nuts and screwsinto position as I tighten them up. So once completed you have a fastener that is flush on both the inside and outsideand the shock cord likes it.--------Brian KenneyRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 10:08:23 -0400Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: More droopiness
When I built my wooden gear I didn't feel comfortable with putting rivets throughthe metal plates at the crouch of the vee. I used number 8 fillister head(countersunk) AN509 machine screws. This made the head flush on the outsidebut needed a protruding screw end and nut on the inside plate. I found over timethat the protruding nut would cut into the shock cord. To solve this problemI tried an unconventional use of some hardware. I countered bored from the insideslightly and countersunk the inside plate and used a NAS1330A08-106 countersunkrivet nut. In case you are confused I didn't pull these rivet nuts I justused then as they came. A flush nut so to speak. You can use keyed nuts and cut a slot in the face of the counter sunk hole andthen some lock tight. Alternatively what I did was epoxied the nuts and screwsinto position as I tighten them up. So once completed you have a fastener that is flush on both the inside and outsideand the shock cord likes it.--------Brian KenneyRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 10:08:23 -0400Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: More droopiness
Pietenpol-List: Re: More droopiness
Original Posted By: "taildrags"
Maybe it's just me... but isn't the only real factor affecting elevator positionin level flight, the speed? My piet has a pronounced up elevator position... in the flare. Does every time.Pretty sure EVERY piet would have a certain speed where the elevator wouldbe in a neutral position. All these pics are likely taken at different speeds,meaning the elevators would be in different positions.Isn't it really just that simple? Now, if your elevators are somewhat down, and the plane is in trim (no controlstick pressure), and this bothers you (since the elevators are not faired, therewill be more drag than necessary, so you'll be somewhat slower - maybe noteven noticable), you either change the wing incidence, or the horiz stab incidenceto take that out. It's a simple matter of rig. Which you do (the stab orwing) is also a matter of rig, and should be based on keeping the fuse angleof attack at a minimum to reduce frontal area, and decreasing drag.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: More droopiness
Maybe it's just me... but isn't the only real factor affecting elevator positionin level flight, the speed? My piet has a pronounced up elevator position... in the flare. Does every time.Pretty sure EVERY piet would have a certain speed where the elevator wouldbe in a neutral position. All these pics are likely taken at different speeds,meaning the elevators would be in different positions.Isn't it really just that simple? Now, if your elevators are somewhat down, and the plane is in trim (no controlstick pressure), and this bothers you (since the elevators are not faired, therewill be more drag than necessary, so you'll be somewhat slower - maybe noteven noticable), you either change the wing incidence, or the horiz stab incidenceto take that out. It's a simple matter of rig. Which you do (the stab orwing) is also a matter of rig, and should be based on keeping the fuse angleof attack at a minimum to reduce frontal area, and decreasing drag.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: More droopiness
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: More droopiness
Original Posted By: Marcus Zechini
Is it just me (or the photo), or is Three-One-Lima-Alpha one long-legged airplane?It just looks like the main gear legs are longer than most. (Not being critical,by the way... long legs can be attractive).--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 12:34:37 -0400Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: More droopiness
Is it just me (or the photo), or is Three-One-Lima-Alpha one long-legged airplane?It just looks like the main gear legs are longer than most. (Not being critical,by the way... long legs can be attractive).--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 12:34:37 -0400Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: More droopiness
Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair Mounts
Original Posted By: Oscar Zuniga
Thanks Skip, thatll work for me. Ill let WW know to expect you.John--------John FrancisRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Thanks Skip, thatll work for me. Ill let WW know to expect you.John--------John FrancisRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: More droopiness
Original Posted By: jim hyde