Brodhead Pietenpol Association

Original Posted By: "mike danford"
Hey folks,I finally got in touch with the guy who runs Kidventure, and therefore sort of"owns" the Pietenpol hangar during the convention. It was my original suggestion that we visit after Kidventure hours, ends for theday around 3 pm, but he suggested we do it DURING Kidventure and and a lot ofgood reasons why. However, he supports the idea no matter what we decide. I'm reposting his email to me with his ideas, so we can as a group decide whatwe want to do. I do like his idea of using this idea to generate some interestamong kids for the Piet. Who is working on a mass fly in? Andy Ovans was going to check with the guy incharge of Vintage parking today and see if they had room for us, or did we wantto go to homebuilders? He's the guy in charge of the Pavillion, so has quickand easy access to all the guys in charge of whatever areas and hopefully wecan get quick answers from them if it hasn't already been hammered out.Cheers,Tools==In reverse order (cut and paste from Yahoo's new email whatever system) is my originalemail to Dan, his reply and my follow up. Chime in and let me know whatya'll think, and I'll set it all up with Dan and Jim. ==Hey Dan!WOW, GREAT suggestions and that's what we'll do. I can coordinate a key throughJim (work with him every week, so no worries there) and will definitely giveyou a heads on on when everyone is thinking of coming.I'll repost your email to the bulletin board and see if we can't generate someformal volunteer time out of them. THANKS for the offer of letting them joinin on the fun, I'm planning on flying control line again as it is.Thanks for the quick reply, I'll be in touch!MikeOn Friday, May 16, 2014 3:56 PM, "dmajka(at)comcast.net" wrote:Hi Mike,I think this is a wonderful idea to give the builders the feel for the historybehind the airplane.Couple of suggestions / offers.I have NO issue with your group coming in any day but I would suggest you do itwhile KidVenture is open for a few reasons. One is that your presence there mightgenerate interest by KidVenture visitors to your builder's group. Two isthat you will not interfere with KidVenture in anyway by being in that hangarand by doing it when the museum buses are in full operation it might be easierfor your group to get to Pioneer. If they do drive they will need to park inthe museum lot and NOT in the Air Academy parking lot. Three is that we have drinksand food in the Vette for our volunteers and you are more than welcome toshare what we have. Four is that maybe some of your people would like to hangaround the hangar on other days to past on the history to KidVenture guests.Your crew could really bring it to life. Any volunteers who would want to dothis would be welcome to sign up as official KidVenture volunteers and receivewhatever perks their hours rate.Bottom line is please bring your group whenever it is best for you, just give mea heads up because I don't have the key to that hangar and would need to makesure it is open.See you soon,Dan

Original Posted By: "Boatright, Jeffrey"
FWIW... While I volunteered quite a bit more, I found out flying control line withthe kids, that 3 days, with only a 4hr shift per day, earned me a WEEK LONGwrist band.Otherwise, a single day shift, gets you a single day pass. So.... set up a table, build some tail feathers (I've got a "kit" for some tailfeathers, have a wing rib jig up here...) or ribs, talk to the kids (or theirparents), let them help a little... you get the idea. VERY nice of Dan to offer this. I AM NOT EVEN CAPABLE of organizing this. I canhelp, but left to my own devices, the plan WILL FAIL. The words "administrativeacumen" never found their way onto ANY of my military fitness reports. Not once in 24 years... So, if doing something like this appeals, let me know if I can help, as I livelocally and spend a lot of time there. Also, the kid venture volunteer thing is semi formal, in that an application hasto be filled out in advance, they'll give us special red shirts, blah blah blah.You actually sign in and out every day. It's this way to help identifyfolks as they've actually had problems in the past with predators. If there's interest in folks wanting to man the hangar to accumulate hours forperks as Dan mentioned, I can help gather names, forward them, get the apps, andthat sort of thing. I'm trying to get better at organization!Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Original Posted By: John Hofmann
Mike Tools Danford - you are DA MAN! Thanks so much for working thisout. Just to be clear, is there any chance we can fly in to Pioneer andpark our actual, real Piets (some that will have really, actually beenused to CAMP following some AIR travel up to Oshkosh) in front of thePietenpol hangar? I mean really, what the heck do those Bells need withthat nice loooong GRASS runway?--Jeffrey H. Boatright, PhD, FARVOProfessor of OphthalmologyEmory University School of MedicineOn 5/16/14, 5:06 PM, "tools" wrote:>>Hey folks,>>I finally got in touch with the guy who runs Kidventure, and therefore>sort of "owns" the Pietenpol hangar during the convention.>>It was my original suggestion that we visit after Kidventure hours, ends>for the day around 3 pm, but he suggested we do it DURING Kidventure and>and a lot of good reasons why. However, he supports the idea no matter>what we decide.>>I'm reposting his email to me with his ideas, so we can as a group decide>what we want to do. I do like his idea of using this idea to generate>some interest among kids for the Piet.>>Who is working on a mass fly in? Andy Ovans was going to check with the>guy in charge of Vintage parking today and see if they had room for us,>or did we want to go to homebuilders? He's the guy in charge of the>Pavillion, so has quick and easy access to all the guys in charge of>whatever areas and hopefully we can get quick answers from them if it>hasn't already been hammered out.>>Cheers,>>Tools>>==>In reverse order (cut and paste from Yahoo's new email whatever system)>is my original email to Dan, his reply and my follow up. Chime in and>let me know what ya'll think, and I'll set it all up with Dan and Jim.>==>>>Hey Dan!>>WOW, GREAT suggestions and that's what we'll do. I can coordinate a key>through Jim (work with him every week, so no worries there) and will>definitely give you a heads on on when everyone is thinking of coming.>>I'll repost your email to the bulletin board and see if we can't generate>some formal volunteer time out of them. THANKS for the offer of letting>them join in on the fun, I'm planning on flying control line again as it>is.>>Thanks for the quick reply, I'll be in touch!>>Mike>On Friday, May 16, 2014 3:56 PM, "dmajka(at)comcast.net" wrote:>>>Hi Mike,>I think this is a wonderful idea to give the builders the feel for the>history behind the airplane.>Couple of suggestions / offers.>I have NO issue with your group coming in any day but I would suggest you>do it while KidVenture is open for a few reasons. One is that your>presence there might generate interest by KidVenture visitors to your>builder's group. Two is that you will not interfere with KidVenture in>anyway by being in that hangar and by doing it when the museum buses are>in full operation it might be easier for your group to get to Pioneer. If>they do drive they will need to park in the museum lot and NOT in the Air>Academy parking lot. Three is that we have drinks and food in the Vette>for our volunteers and you are more than welcome to share what we have.>Four is that maybe some of your people would like to hang around the>hangar on other days to past on the history to KidVenture guests. Your>crew could really bring it to life. Any volunteers who would want to do>this would be welcome to sign up as official KidVenture volunteers and>receive whatever perks their hours rate.>Bottom line is please bring your group whenever it is best for you, just>give me a heads up because I don't have the key to that hangar and would>need to make sure it is open.>See you soon,>Dan>>>From: "mike danford">To: "Majka, Dan">Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 8:35:45 AM>Subject: Pioneer field field trip during convention>>Dear Dan,>>I'm Mike Danford, we've met a few times around campus (so to speak) but>most memorably was at Paul's room with Tracy N and Bill B shortly before>convention last year.>>I volunteer at Weeks some, Pioneer field flying young eagles, and during>convention with the control line folks at Kidventure.>>I'm also a Pietenpol enthusiast, I own and fly one that I bought>(currently teaching my son to fly it). I think we may get 5 to 10 Piets>to fly to convention together this year for the 85th anniversary of the>Pietenpol. If we can manage that, there'll be another confirmed 10 to 15>guys driving in most likely. This is VERY informal.>>However, a common thread to everyone's thinking is conjuring up something>to do together, is the Pietenpol hangar. Folks (most are currently>building) are EXTREMELY interested in a "behind the ropes" view of the>planes in his hangar, both for nostalgia and the educational value to>someone who's currently building. Essentially a monster picture taking>effort to help document "how Bernie did it" for their records as they>build.>>I offered to help set up such a field trip and went to Jim Casper (whom I>work for as a Young Eagles pilot volunteer). He said that control of the>field is relinquished to you during the convention so that you'd likely>be the governing authority!>>I think it would be best to go visit the hangar AFTER Kidventure is done>for the day, like 4 or 5 in the after noon. All we would need is someone>to let us in, I can lock up behind us (pretty sure it's just pad locked).> It would be a thirty minute to an hour sort of thing accompanied by a>group photo for the website we communicate through. No dismantling of>planes or anything like that. I would be more than willing to officially>offer being the EAA's official chaperon to make sure nothing is taken or>hurt, if I'm in a position to do so.>>Thanks for the consideration, let me know what you think! By the way,>don't let the phone number trick you, I'm now living full time in>Oshkosh, in the old firehouse near the Dockside tavern, right behind the>Brooklyn bar.>>Thanks!>>Mike Danford>n0kkj(at)yahoo.com>423 580 1383>>>Read this topic online here:>>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use ofthe intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privilegedinformation. 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Original Posted By:>> "mike danford"
There is no way to use Pioneer Airport for operations during AirVenture. The FAAwill not allow it.We are looking at a grass runway for Oshkosh in the future. For those of us whoremember, there used to be one between the runway and taxiway on 18/36. Thatarea is now drainage.Two years ago we tried to get one approved on the south end of the field. The FAAnixed it the night before we were to fly the 75 Cubs in.Jack Pelton told me a couple of weeks ago that there is a third option being lookedat that looks very promising. It however will not be available for this year.-john-On May 16, 2014, at 4:53 PM, Boatright, Jeffrey wrote:> > Mike Tools Danford - you are DA MAN! Thanks so much for working this> out. Just to be clear, is there any chance we can fly in to Pioneer and> park our actual, real Piets (some that will have really, actually been> used to CAMP following some AIR travel up to Oshkosh) in front of the> Pietenpol hangar? I mean really, what the heck do those Bells need with> that nice loooong GRASS runway?> > --> > Jeffrey H. Boatright, PhD, FARVO> Professor of Ophthalmology> Emory University School of Medicine> > > > > On 5/16/14, 5:06 PM, "tools" wrote:> >> >> Hey folks,>> >> I finally got in touch with the guy who runs Kidventure, and therefore>> sort of "owns" the Pietenpol hangar during the convention.>> >> It was my original suggestion that we visit after Kidventure hours, ends>> for the day around 3 pm, but he suggested we do it DURING Kidventure and>> and a lot of good reasons why. However, he supports the idea no matter>> what we decide.>> >> I'm reposting his email to me with his ideas, so we can as a group decide>> what we want to do. I do like his idea of using this idea to generate>> some interest among kids for the Piet.>> >> Who is working on a mass fly in? Andy Ovans was going to check with the>> guy in charge of Vintage parking today and see if they had room for us,>> or did we want to go to homebuilders? He's the guy in charge of the>> Pavillion, so has quick and easy access to all the guys in charge of>> whatever areas and hopefully we can get quick answers from them if it>> hasn't already been hammered out.>> >> Cheers,>> >> Tools>> >> ==>> In reverse order (cut and paste from Yahoo's new email whatever system)>> is my original email to Dan, his reply and my follow up. Chime in and>> let me know what ya'll think, and I'll set it all up with Dan and Jim.>> ==>> >> >> Hey Dan!>> >> WOW, GREAT suggestions and that's what we'll do. I can coordinate a key>> through Jim (work with him every week, so no worries there) and will>> definitely give you a heads on on when everyone is thinking of coming.>> >> I'll repost your email to the bulletin board and see if we can't generate>> some formal volunteer time out of them. THANKS for the offer of letting>> them join in on the fun, I'm planning on flying control line again as it>> is.>> >> Thanks for the quick reply, I'll be in touch!>> >> Mike>> On Friday, May 16, 2014 3:56 PM, "dmajka(at)comcast.net" wrote:>> >> >> Hi Mike,>> I think this is a wonderful idea to give the builders the feel for the>> history behind the airplane.>> Couple of suggestions / offers.>> I have NO issue with your group coming in any day but I would suggest you>> do it while KidVenture is open for a few reasons. One is that your>> presence there might generate interest by KidVenture visitors to your>> builder's group. Two is that you will not interfere with KidVenture in>> anyway by being in that hangar and by doing it when the museum buses are>> in full operation it might be easier for your group to get to Pioneer. If>> they do drive they will need to park in the museum lot and NOT in the Air>> Academy parking lot. Three is that we have drinks and food in the Vette>> for our volunteers and you are more than welcome to share what we have.>> Four is that maybe some of your people would like to hang around the>> hangar on other days to past on the history to KidVenture guests. Your>> crew could really bring it to life. Any volunteers who would want to do>> this would be welcome to sign up as official KidVenture volunteers and>> receive whatever perks their hours rate.>> Bottom line is please bring your group whenever it is best for you, just>> give me a heads up because I don't have the key to that hangar and would>> need to make sure it is open.>> See you soon,>> Dan>> >>

Original Posted By: "Barry Davis"
Correct, ZERO chance of ANY operations on Pioneer field. Perhaps for the 100th???? Would probably have to start working that now!For now, something simple and fun. I think some sort of "presence" at the Piethangar is a cool idea. Some sort of small group fly in AS EARLY AS POSSIBLEon Sunday is a good idea. Just grouping who we can is a cool idea.That's about it.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
MikeGood to see you have this worked out for AirVenture 2014. I talked to Dan M.briefly a couple of weeks ago when I was up for the BOD meeting, as Dan andI serve on the Museum Committee. I am really glad to see some activity inthe Pietenpol hangar as this is a very unutilized asset we have. We need away to better tell our Pietenpol history and what could be better thanhands-on with enthusiastic builders.If someone in the group could layout several ( maybe on 20"x30") posterswith the history of the Piet, Bernard, BPA news, Current flying pics, etc. Icould print and mount them up and ship them to the firehouse before theevent. This could add a lot to the Piet hangar and would liven things up abit.And speaking of the firehouse, I really enjoyed our visit. You're living thedream!ThanksBarry Davis NX973BP-----Original Message-----

Original Posted By: "Barry Davis"
All I did was to make sure we could visit and get a pic sort of thing. It wasTOTALLY Dan's idea maybe "man" the hangar and do something along those lines.I hope there's some interest because it does seem like a good idea. While theRV's may be the most prevalent aspect of home building, the Piet really is thegenesis. I agree that the asset is underutilized. What sort of format do you need stuff submitted to make these posters? My daughteris an art director, she could organize pics and stuff into whatever electronicformat you need to print from perhaps. And if someone could even hand drawANY sort of guidance for more informational posters, she could zap it intowhatever to print from as well. There are a couple poster like info boards in the hangar, but they're OLD. I'llbe at Pioneer tomorrow and can check them all out and maybe get some ideas.So who's going to airventure after brodhead?Anyone working on a group fly in?Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
.ai, .cdr, .eps files would work. I can print up to 54" wide x ?? long, butshipping becomes a problem if it is mounted on a rigid board. Up to 24"x36"boards ships cheaply.Barry-----Original Message-----