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Pietenpol-List: prop bolts

Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2015 1:17 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "taildrags"
Not sure why, but it looks like my message got truncated so here it is again. Sorry if it's a repeat:I look for my Piet list digest in the email pretty much first thing every day=2C and have been disappointed to see zero messages in the digest a couple of times lately. I think it's pretty common for this to happen in the winter months=2C what with the holidays and it being too cold to build or fly.I know I comment and post too much=2C so I try not to reply to posts unless I can offer something constructive=2C encouraging=2C or maybe humorous. I also ask questions about things I see on other people's airplanes because I like to learn and as William Wynne says=2C "I reserve the right to get smarter" when it comes to a new and better way to do something. There is never any shortage of things like this coming from the list=2C you just have to wait patiently for it. Actually=2C it's good training for being a good Piet pilot. Patience=2C that is.I may have been part of the 'friction' from last year and after getting punched in the gut by one person and had my engineering pshaw'ed by another=2C I unsubscribed from the list but wasn't able to resist checking the forum at least once a day to keep track of who is doing what. My self-imposed absence lasted a couple of months but there is too much good here for me to stay away.Right now there are a couple of airplanes under construction that I am really anxious to see get completed and start flying. At the top of the list is Aerocar Jake's round-engine=2C steel-frame Piet up in Washington. I was thrilled to see Ken Bickers get his plane finished up in Colorado (how's the testing going=2C Ken?)- and there are others out there that are getting close. I'm really interested in seeing Kenny Crider's Jeep-powered Piet keep coming together. And although I may end up in a wheelchair before it happens=2C I'd sure like to see Steve Dortch finish up "FrankenPiet" and get it flying to close that loop. This is why I stick around=2C along with waiting for the old-timers to drop tasty crumbs of knowledge=2C links to "watch me make smoke!" and "a 10-minute flight around the patch" videos=2C all of it.Not slowly dying... just getting rested up for spring =3Bo)Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerMedford=2C OR--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: prop bolts

Re: Pietenpol-List: prop bolts

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:29 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: Steven Dortch
Four,I love this list and thoroughly enjoy reading its posts every single day. Due to my recent transition from the military, involving a nearly coast to coast move, new career, and building a house, I have yet to get started on my Piet. With no airplane to work on, I don't feel I have much to offer in the way of posts, but For the time being live vicariously through the stories of you who are building and flying such a great airplane. So, please keep the posts coming. I can't wait until I have more Pietenpol knowledge in the future to offer others through the use of this list. The only person I've actually met on this list is Gary Boothe, who graciously showed me and let me sit in his beautiful craft. I'm looking forward to meeting more of you someday at Broadhead or some other gathering. So, long story short (too late) I value this list and hope it continues to thrive.Andy HootsSt Louis Metro EastSent from my iPhone> On Jan 17, 2015, at 11:09, Ray Krause wrote:> > Douwe,> > I think there are times when many of us are doing the rather mundane parts of building and/or maintaining our aircraft. For example, I'm in the covering process and it is rather tedious, repetitive and slow. It's hard to make progress that is too exciting.> > Another point is that we tend to make friends in our own geographical areas where communication comes outside the forum, unfortunately. For example, I communicate with Gary Boothe, Chris Tracy, Jim Boyer, Oscar Zuniga, etc on occasion when I have a quick question on a specific point that I know they have dealt with in the past. This may not be of benefit to the entire group, so maybe it should go through to Forum.> > Several weeks ago, Chris, Gary, Brian Rieger and his father (building a PIET together) and other friends were here to visit, look at my progress and scruff up a free lunch! (I think all my tools are still here!) It was a great day. The next day Gary came back to loan me some of his covering materials that I had failed to order. Then Chris put me in contact with Bill Liimatainen, from near Brodhead who had built a Sky Scout and had great suggestions on the landing gear. Bill called me subsequently and we spoke for nearly an hour about Pietenpols. He is sending me some plans and photos of his gear.> > Also during the visit here, I gave Chris a memory stick from Jake Schultz that had 146 photos of the Sky Scout in a museum in WA. Chris will put these on Westcoat PIET site.> > So, we are active, just not writing too much. But now you have stirred us up and we are writing too much, at least I am!> > Thanks,> > Ray Krause> > Sent from my iPad> >> On Jan 16, 2015, at 7:45 AM, Douwe Blumberg wrote:>> >> Hey all (or whomever is still out there)>> >> Are we witnessing the slow death of our Pietenpol list? It seems that since the ugliness and contention of while back, there has been a drastic and steady =9Cexodus=9D of participants. I for one am less interested in submitting thoughts and ideas. Such a shame, it was always such a great group until the last couple of years. Reading the list was my favorite thing about most mornings and a great way to start the day to say nothing of helping me finish my plane.>> >> And, whatever happened to the BPA?? (Brodhead Pietenpol Association) Is it dead too? Seems that very soon, there will be no Pietenpol =9Cmouthpieces=9D around anymore which will likely impact an already shrinking following.>> >> Is Brodhead next??!!!>> >> Douwe>> >> >> D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D>> ot;">www.aeroelectric.com>> books.com"">www.buildersbooks.com>> quot;">www.homebuilthelp.com>> quot;">www.mypilotstore.com>> ">www.mrrace.com>> ot;">http://www.matronics.com/contribution>> D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D>> npol-List"">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List>> D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D>> //forums.matronics.com>> D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D>> > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D> ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 20:49:48 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: prop bolts

Re: Pietenpol-List: Drag/antiDrag wire

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:57 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: glenschweizer(at)yahoo.com
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Drag/antiDrag wire

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:25 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By:> ----- Original Message -----
Hi Dick thanks for the info! The FWANG method makes a lot of sense. Much likethe TLAR (that looks about right) engineering method, as long as I don't FUBAR,it'll be good! Thanks! I do love this group! BTW, it's alive and kickin,we were just nappin for awhile. GlenSent from my iPhone> On Jan 18, 2015, at 6:20 PM, "Dick N" wrote:> > > The best way of tuning the wires is to simply tighten them all and listen tothe tone of the wires. They should make a FWANG sound. Get them all to do thatand they will be fine.> Dick N.

Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piet list and BPA slowly dying?

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:34 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: Ken Bickers
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piet list and BPA slowly dying?

Pietenpol-List: Re: Piet list and BPA slowly dying? (tools)

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:08 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: Ray Krause
I misspoke. I gave rides to three guys half way through builds or more (one guyactually already done building his piet, signed off and ready for its fly off),who have NEVER been offered a ride. None of them asked for a ride, they merelywanted to talk piets and in about six seconds it was obvious they had neverbeen up in one so I offered. How is that possible? Am I that intuitive?Ya...I gave rides to about ten kids associated with the brodhead chapter. They allbeen picking up our garbage for YEARS. Maybe two have ever been offered a ride.Again, they didn't ask, I found them. I'm REALLY intuitive... Or maybe, I just ran around asking, "have you ever been offered a ride?"It's a great pickup line. Ask ANY of the folks who we're serving two dollar sandwiches if they were offereda ride. That's rhetorical for me.So, who IS the leadership of Piets? Great question, huh? Perhaps we should erecta monument so it isn't so unclear....Tools...addmitedly not written at the normal sixth grade level. In the spirit of Toyotaproduction systems you may have to ask why more than once.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________