Brodhead Pietenpol Association

Original Posted By: Steven Dortch
That's great to hear! Thanks for the update!ToolsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 11:51:25 -0600Subject: Pietenpol-List: Data Plate and airworthiness certificate

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Steve, I put mine in the rear cockpit on the right side wall, under the upper longeron. It is readily visible while standing outside the rear cockpit.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia

Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
Jerry, You are a good man for being concerned about G. Lion Mason, and checking in. Youguys probably missed this, but Gardiner wrote into this list 72 hours ago onthe story of continental parts for sale. He is here and on duty, and I am guessingreading this thread with a smile thinking "reports of my demise may be premature".A number of us on the Corvair side have been kept informed by Terry Hand. He livesnear Gardiner and shares the USMC / Delta pilot connections. A number of monthsback Terry picked up Gardiners Corvair after he opted to a Continental 85,and Terry had kept us informed under the radar of Gardiner's good progress..For Piet builders who are yet to meet him, he is a genuine character. He came to a number of Colleges and flew in to several of the Barnwell events. He had the misfortune of having his bird on the very bottom of the 2011 Piet n Pile at the SnF tornado, but got it back flying with hard work. I have a long story about eyebrow cooling systems on our site centered on Gardiners plane: http://www.flycorvair.com/pietengineissue.html The last four paragraphs are about his life in aviation and how he was down at our place when our neighbors were hosting an Naval Attack pilots reunion, a nice coincidence and how it was great to see Gardiner suddenly in the company of real peers. -ww.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Original Posted By: Steven Dortch
Steve,The dataplate on NX18235 was installed on the forward face of the turtledeck, between my shoulder blades, just like Scott Liefield's.The DAR said we needed an additional dataplate aft of the cockpit so one was installed on the aft fuselage just below the stabilizer.The airworthiness certificate is in a ziplock baggie, along with the W&B and operating limitations, in the helmet box behind the pilot's back.It's never been questioned.Greg Cardinal ----- Original Message -----

Original Posted By: "Bill Church"
Aircraft Data Plate ....One thing to add, the data plate cannot be Aluminum (stainless steel is the choicematerial) and the aircraft information must be stamped into or engraved onthe data plate. This requirement is so the data plate and its information canbe read after being in a fire.WF2--------Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piet list and BPA slowly dying?

Original Posted By: airlion2(at)gmail.com
I'll be there on Sat. Driving from Tellico Plains, TN if anyone wants to sharea ride. Had a blast last year. I'll probably bring a few pieces parts from myPiet project.LorenzoRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Data Plate and airworthiness certificate

Original Posted By: glenschweizer(at)yahoo.com
Got several mills and lathes in operation and would be happy to teach you anythingI can. There will be a number of accomplished machinists there as mentors.I recommend you bring something along you need machined, or have a project in mindwe might be able to help you with.You have to be proactive and just ask! It's a hectic weekend... easy to get lostin the crowd. So don't feel weird about just stepping up and asking. Don'twait until... there's a slow period, the machine isn't being used, whatever...just wade into the middle of everything and make yourself known! If anything around there tickles your fancy and you just want to play with it,again, just ask. If you see someone struggling, offer to help. There isn't a schedule of "things", we all just go with the flow. Hope to see you there!ToolsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Data Plate and airworthiness certificate

Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
Well? Is it any good? Probably get a bottle anyway.I do love old fashions... A bar up the street from me has a nice old fashionedmenu, one which is rye based (which I think is the original basis anyway), andgot me started drinking rye. This stuff really peaked my interest.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Data Plate and airworthiness certificate

Original Posted By: "Jack Philips"
Hi Gardiner,I'm really glad to see you posting again and feeling better.I love my C-85. I'm not too sure which numbers you would like to see but heregoes. I would like to recommend that you try a 72-42 prop. The 72-44 recommendedfor the 85 works good at sea level, but if you fly anywhere in high densityaltitude the 42 in pitch is a lot better. The Piet is just too slow and draggyfor the 44 inch prop to work good. The 42 inch also helps with those heavypassengers if you take them. My take off roll at sea level, solo and no wind can be as short as 130 feet. At4,000 feet the take off will be closer to 300 feet. I believe that the rateof climb difference you will see flying solo will be negligible. Your rate ofclimb should be better than mine because of the under-camber wing you have.Remember that I have a Cub airfoil and I have only a 27' wingspan. My stall andcruise speeds are higher then yours. This reminds me, last June while flying home from the Frazier Lake Gathering Iwas flying two ship with Mike Groah. He has a Corvair in his. He could out climbme by a fair amount due to the airfoil and length. Mike's cruise speed wasquite a bit slower then mine too. If I slowed down to where he was flying,I would slowly start sinking. I kept having to climb back up to his alt. I guess that I am saying that outright numbers would be impossible to compare.Here are my numbers anyway. All numbers are MPH.Stall 40 Cruise between 70 and 90. Redline is 120.Cruising at 70 wil get me about 5.4 GPH.Cruising at 85-90 gets me about 5.7 GPH.I have never measured the rate of climb but I do know a Corvair powered Piet climbsbetter than me.The rate of descent? Well just throw a brick out and see where you are going toland. We are equal when it come to this one. If you want something more specific, maybe I can try to figure that out for you.I think we are truthfully comparing Oranges and Tangerines. The wing beingthe big difference. Come on out to California and we will go fly mine. See if you like it.Oh, One more thing. When you do the change, off-set the vertical to the otherside cause the Cont. turns backwards when compared to the Corvair.Does this help?--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________