Original Posted By: "Jack Philips"
Hello Piet friends! Finally got the cockpit varnish to my satisfaction,moving forward! Planning on leaving the sides off till the last minute.The panels, turtle-deck and firewall are not glued. Was thinking I willinstall, pedals, rudder bar and bell-crank first with AN hardware. Then getit on the gear with hardware store nuts and bolts. Then on to gluing theturtle-deck and panels. Install the nose tank. Then cut and install thecomings. If I remember Oscar cut a small panel between the rudder pedals,good idea? Any thoughts or ideas are certainly welcome. Took my firstpassenger up, Granddaughter, Hannah.Thanks!Jack TextorWest Des Moines, IA515-490-5177________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Order of Things, Fuselage Assembly
RE: Pietenpol-List: Order of Things, Fuselage Assembly
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Looks really nice, Jack.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia
Looks really nice, Jack.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia
Pietenpol-List: Re: Order of Things, Fuselage Assembly
Original Posted By: "Barry Davis"
Beautiful work, Jack. I hope I can catch up with you.SemihRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Beautiful work, Jack. I hope I can catch up with you.SemihRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Order of Things, Fuselage Assembly
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Looks Great!Barry Davis
Looks Great!Barry Davis
Pietenpol-List: Re: Order of Things, Fuselage Assembly
Original Posted By: "tools"
What a thing of beauty - a true piece of art. Not sure about what assembly sequence would work best for a wood fuselage as Iam building the steel-tube version. I imagine adding the plywood sides would beone of the LAST things you would do. I made my instrument panel removable so I can work on it as a unit on the bench,and then install it after the turtle deck is completed. I see you have a hatchsimilar to Mike Cuy's approach.Beautiful grain on your wood sides/structure.....--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Order of Things, Fuselage Assembly
What a thing of beauty - a true piece of art. Not sure about what assembly sequence would work best for a wood fuselage as Iam building the steel-tube version. I imagine adding the plywood sides would beone of the LAST things you would do. I made my instrument panel removable so I can work on it as a unit on the bench,and then install it after the turtle deck is completed. I see you have a hatchsimilar to Mike Cuy's approach.Beautiful grain on your wood sides/structure.....--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Order of Things, Fuselage Assembly
Pietenpol-List: Re: Order of Things, Fuselage Assembly
Original Posted By: "Jeff Boatright"
Having basically done it exactly opposite to that, I can fairly positively sayit sounds like a pretty good plan to me!However, having done it.... I can also attest to the fact should you forget something,not all is lost as it can be done the other way around, just quite a bitmore tedious.In my case it was a repair that had me installing the cockpit floor last and theninstalling all the fittings and controls, so I didn't really have any choice.Love your work, but that grand daughter is really something! I have a similarpicture of my daughter about that age in my fathers Hatz when it was about thatfar along. She was in the front seat and her legs reached the back seat rudderpedals perfectly. Priceless photo!Cheers,ToolsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Order of Things, Fuselage Assembly
Having basically done it exactly opposite to that, I can fairly positively sayit sounds like a pretty good plan to me!However, having done it.... I can also attest to the fact should you forget something,not all is lost as it can be done the other way around, just quite a bitmore tedious.In my case it was a repair that had me installing the cockpit floor last and theninstalling all the fittings and controls, so I didn't really have any choice.Love your work, but that grand daughter is really something! I have a similarpicture of my daughter about that age in my fathers Hatz when it was about thatfar along. She was in the front seat and her legs reached the back seat rudderpedals perfectly. Priceless photo!Cheers,ToolsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Order of Things, Fuselage Assembly
Pietenpol-List: Re: Order of Things, Fuselage Assembly
Original Posted By: "taildrags"
Looks great! Congratulations!Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Order of Things, Fuselage Assembly
Looks great! Congratulations!Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Order of Things, Fuselage Assembly
Original Posted By: Yahoo! Account Service
Jack: it wasn't me that installed an observation/access port in the floor... itwas Kevin "Axel" Purtee. I just did a quick check and there is at least onegood picture of his observation port on Westcoastpiet. I really wish I had hadone on mine when I had to replace the fuel shutoff valve and actuating cable.It is a royal pain working down under there, folded over the front cockpitcoaming or -worse yet- committing to a full slide down into the front cockpithead-first with feet tangled up in the cabane X-bracing and then needing a toolyou don't have. You will exercise your full 'street slang' vocabulary tryingto get back out to get a tool and then getting back in. I'll bet I did it 100times, dropping a small washer or cotter pin and having to get another, needinga thin washer but only having a standard thickness one down there, needingthe dykes, needing to take a part back off and put just a slight bend in itin the vise, etc. etc.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 08:19:30 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Jack: it wasn't me that installed an observation/access port in the floor... itwas Kevin "Axel" Purtee. I just did a quick check and there is at least onegood picture of his observation port on Westcoastpiet. I really wish I had hadone on mine when I had to replace the fuel shutoff valve and actuating cable.It is a royal pain working down under there, folded over the front cockpitcoaming or -worse yet- committing to a full slide down into the front cockpithead-first with feet tangled up in the cabane X-bracing and then needing a toolyou don't have. You will exercise your full 'street slang' vocabulary tryingto get back out to get a tool and then getting back in. I'll bet I did it 100times, dropping a small washer or cotter pin and having to get another, needinga thin washer but only having a standard thickness one down there, needingthe dykes, needing to take a part back off and put just a slight bend in itin the vise, etc. etc.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 08:19:30 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing Heavy
Original Posted By: "taildrags"
Probably 5 years ago, Dick Navrotil did a talk at Brodhead on aircraft rigging.His position was that there are a significant number of aircraft, not just Piets,that are poor flyers because they were not rigged properly. As others havesaid, do it right, take your time, and measure everything twice. The other piece of advice he had from that talk was that if things aren't goingright, put your tools away and get a frosty cold one. Mistakes made while frustratedhave a tendency to be permanent. DaveRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing Heavy
Probably 5 years ago, Dick Navrotil did a talk at Brodhead on aircraft rigging.His position was that there are a significant number of aircraft, not just Piets,that are poor flyers because they were not rigged properly. As others havesaid, do it right, take your time, and measure everything twice. The other piece of advice he had from that talk was that if things aren't goingright, put your tools away and get a frosty cold one. Mistakes made while frustratedhave a tendency to be permanent. DaveRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing Heavy
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing Heavy
Original Posted By: Peter Johnson
Say, Peter- your airplane is looking very nice! Looks like you've got a passengercockpit door. I see no lift strut X-brace cables or jury struts. Since you'vejust fitted the wings to the fuselage, does that mean you haven't yet installedthe cables and struts? And how strict are the government regulationsabout adherence to Mr. Pietenpol's plans? Do they permit any deviations? I seethat you have the Stearman-style flat windshields, nicely done.Taxi tests soon, eh mate-?--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 16:14:01 +1100Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing Heavy
Say, Peter- your airplane is looking very nice! Looks like you've got a passengercockpit door. I see no lift strut X-brace cables or jury struts. Since you'vejust fitted the wings to the fuselage, does that mean you haven't yet installedthe cables and struts? And how strict are the government regulationsabout adherence to Mr. Pietenpol's plans? Do they permit any deviations? I seethat you have the Stearman-style flat windshields, nicely done.Taxi tests soon, eh mate-?--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 16:14:01 +1100Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing Heavy
Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing Heavy
Original Posted By: "TriScout"
I haven't been around for a while and here is the final condition of the fuselage.Started to look more like a Piet. In the meanwhile, I finished the rudderpedals and elevator bellcrank (metal work).Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_ ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing Heavy
I haven't been around for a while and here is the final condition of the fuselage.Started to look more like a Piet. In the meanwhile, I finished the rudderpedals and elevator bellcrank (metal work).Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_ ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing Heavy
Original Posted By: Semih Oksay
..or..put some buckshot in the lighter wing..--------KLNCA65-8N2308CSlick 4330'sAN HardwareAirframe 755TTW72CK-42 SensenichStandard Factory GN-1Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
..or..put some buckshot in the lighter wing..--------KLNCA65-8N2308CSlick 4330'sAN HardwareAirframe 755TTW72CK-42 SensenichStandard Factory GN-1Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Order of Things, Fuselage Assembly
Original Posted By:> Jack Textor
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Order of Things, Fuselage AssemblyWhat do you access through this access panel?Semih=8B2015-10-16 15:19 GMT+03:00 Yahoo! Account Service :> Jack,>> Really nice work.>> Yes, the small access panel between rudder pedals is a good idea. Felix> the GN1 had one and I put one in my project.> Skip>> -----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Order of Things, Fuselage AssemblyWhat do you access through this access panel?Semih=8B2015-10-16 15:19 GMT+03:00 Yahoo! Account Service :> Jack,>> Really nice work.>> Yes, the small access panel between rudder pedals is a good idea. Felix> the GN1 had one and I put one in my project.> Skip>> -----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Order of Things, Fuselage Assembly
Original Posted By: Ray Krause
Semih;>From this access panel you can inspect and work on the front rudder pedals, thefuel tank outlet (if you have a fuel tank in the nose), the fuel shutoff valve(also if you have a fuel tank in the nose), and anything that goes throughthe lower part of the firewall. If you do not have a fuel tank in the nose, itwill only be of limited use although your passengers will be amused to watchthe runway stripes as they view them through the clear acrylic or polycarbonateaccess panel.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Semih;>From this access panel you can inspect and work on the front rudder pedals, thefuel tank outlet (if you have a fuel tank in the nose), the fuel shutoff valve(also if you have a fuel tank in the nose), and anything that goes throughthe lower part of the firewall. If you do not have a fuel tank in the nose, itwill only be of limited use although your passengers will be amused to watchthe runway stripes as they view them through the clear acrylic or polycarbonateaccess panel.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: TC Piet progress
Original Posted By: Semih Oksay
Beautiful welding and super nice wood work. But maybe you have spent too much time building model airplanes!Ray KrauseCovering last section of SkyScout wing.Sent from my iPad> On Oct 18, 2015, at 9:23 AM, oldbird wrote:> > > I haven't been around for a while and here is the final condition of the fuselage. Started to look more like a Piet. In the meanwhile, I finished the rudder pedals and elevator bellcrank (metal work).> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 046#448046> > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_2940_101.jpg> http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_2975_145.jpg> > > > ============================================================================================================================================> > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Beautiful welding and super nice wood work. But maybe you have spent too much time building model airplanes!Ray KrauseCovering last section of SkyScout wing.Sent from my iPad> On Oct 18, 2015, at 9:23 AM, oldbird wrote:> > > I haven't been around for a while and here is the final condition of the fuselage. Started to look more like a Piet. In the meanwhile, I finished the rudder pedals and elevator bellcrank (metal work).> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 046#448046> > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_2940_101.jpg> http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_2975_145.jpg> > > > ============================================================================================================================================> > > ________________________________________________________________________________
