Original Posted By: "Jeff Boatright"
When I was younger I might have tried all of those contaminants, but now I'm prettymuch limited to beer, wine, and the occasional martini. Hey now, I thinkI DO need to test whether olives or lemon twists float better.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Slightly OT: Video of friend's Pup
Pietenpol-List: Slightly OT: Video of friend's Pup
Pietenpol-List: Re: Slightly OT: Video of friend's Pup
Original Posted By: "taildrags"
Jeff,Was it a vintage shellac coated float you epoxy coated? If possible my guess wouldbe that while epoxy coated, there was a pinhole hole in the coating somewhere.Alcohol, being more viscous than either fuel or water made it's way in,and attacked the shellac. Being coated, it deformed the expoxy and bubbled upunderneath, creating more holes and the system went south pretty quick.It would create quite a gunk, a bimaterial layer of shellac/epoxy being attackedfrom underneath. It's really hard to coat a porous surface like cork. Shellac merely slows theingress of fuel to the cork, it's not a impenetrable coating. Neither is epoxyunless really carefully applied. If the surface isn't smooth and shiny like a plastic casting, there are holes somewhere.Also, alcohol has an affinity for water, which is what rusted the coat hangar.Gas doesn't, they don't mix and the water sits on the bottom of the tank andcorrodes it there. Alcohol dissolved in the fuel, holds the water and presentsit to the coat hangar so to speak. Dot 4 and older brake fluid, has alcohol and does the same thing inside brake systems.Dot 5 is silicone based and mnch better.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Slightly OT: Video of friend's Pup
Jeff,Was it a vintage shellac coated float you epoxy coated? If possible my guess wouldbe that while epoxy coated, there was a pinhole hole in the coating somewhere.Alcohol, being more viscous than either fuel or water made it's way in,and attacked the shellac. Being coated, it deformed the expoxy and bubbled upunderneath, creating more holes and the system went south pretty quick.It would create quite a gunk, a bimaterial layer of shellac/epoxy being attackedfrom underneath. It's really hard to coat a porous surface like cork. Shellac merely slows theingress of fuel to the cork, it's not a impenetrable coating. Neither is epoxyunless really carefully applied. If the surface isn't smooth and shiny like a plastic casting, there are holes somewhere.Also, alcohol has an affinity for water, which is what rusted the coat hangar.Gas doesn't, they don't mix and the water sits on the bottom of the tank andcorrodes it there. Alcohol dissolved in the fuel, holds the water and presentsit to the coat hangar so to speak. Dot 4 and older brake fluid, has alcohol and does the same thing inside brake systems.Dot 5 is silicone based and mnch better.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Slightly OT: Video of friend's Pup
Original Posted By: Ray Krause
Well of course he noticed that he dropped a phone or radio or something as he exitedthe aircraft? So what's up with the fuel venting out of the starboard fillercap in flight? Just a full tank? Couldn't have been the fuel warming upin the sun.Wish he would have provided a side shot of the Pup...--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Well of course he noticed that he dropped a phone or radio or something as he exitedthe aircraft? So what's up with the fuel venting out of the starboard fillercap in flight? Just a full tank? Couldn't have been the fuel warming upin the sun.Wish he would have provided a side shot of the Pup...--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Slightly OT: Video of friend's Pup
Original Posted By: "Jeff Boatright"
Very nice, thanks!Ray KrauseSent from my iPad> On Jan 3, 2016, at 3:43 PM, Jeff Boatright wrote:> > > While the Piet is down, we shifted the action cam over to another low-n-slowplane. This is a link to a video of a flight my friend took yesterday in his Pup(I flew it after him; no video of that). He rebuilt this plane while recoveringfrom his THIRD round of cancer. He says the Pup, his wife, and his docs andnurses saved him -- he's just not sure in which order on any particular day!> > https://youtu.be/23O9_06ku9M> > > .> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 681#451681> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Slightly OT: Video of friend's Pup
Very nice, thanks!Ray KrauseSent from my iPad> On Jan 3, 2016, at 3:43 PM, Jeff Boatright wrote:> > > While the Piet is down, we shifted the action cam over to another low-n-slowplane. This is a link to a video of a flight my friend took yesterday in his Pup(I flew it after him; no video of that). He rebuilt this plane while recoveringfrom his THIRD round of cancer. He says the Pup, his wife, and his docs andnurses saved him -- he's just not sure in which order on any particular day!> > https://youtu.be/23O9_06ku9M> > > .> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 681#451681> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Slightly OT: Video of friend's Pup
Re: Pietenpol-List: BPA Newsletter PDF
Original Posted By: Tony Crawford
taildrags wrote:> Well of course he noticed that he dropped a phone or radio or something as heexited the aircraft? So what's up with the fuel venting out of the starboardfiller cap in flight? Just a full tank? Couldn't have been the fuel warmingup in the sun.Yep, he came back for it. I don't think that fuel was venting -- we were justsloppy adding fuel at the beginning of the day. It shows up so well because Ronneeds to wash his plane!Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 20:45:04 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: BPA Newsletter PDF
taildrags wrote:> Well of course he noticed that he dropped a phone or radio or something as heexited the aircraft? So what's up with the fuel venting out of the starboardfiller cap in flight? Just a full tank? Couldn't have been the fuel warmingup in the sun.Yep, he came back for it. I don't think that fuel was venting -- we were justsloppy adding fuel at the beginning of the day. It shows up so well because Ronneeds to wash his plane!Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 20:45:04 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: BPA Newsletter PDF
Re: Pietenpol-List: BPA Newsletter PDF
Original Posted By:> > owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Hi Tony,Yes you are on the list for a few more newsletters. T-Shirts at Brodhead are usually either sold by the Pietenpol family or by Pat Weeden. If you are thinking of the red Sky Scout shirt, Pat told me he only had 18 of those printed up. Best,-john-> On Jan 3, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Tony Crawford wrote:> > Hello John,> I was wondering where I stand with news letters? I did get my last one back in September or so off the Matronics web site. And the one before that from you. Am I on the list to receive the current and the next one that will come out in March???? Question?? I did make it to Brodhead this year. I did buy 2 T-shirts while there. I did not look at them until I got back to Alabama. They are great shirts but they are not the ones i had seen on the Brodhead website. I was looking for the T-shirt with the Sky Scout design. Do you know if they are still available?? Thank You!> > Tony> > Tony Crawford > > On Sat, Jan 2, 2016 at 12:12 PM, John Hofmann > wrote:>> > Thanks Jack,> > Have a Happy New Year.> > New newsletter issue this week. Nice carburetor article by Bob Kachergius. You are good for three more issues. I think we are in a bit of a lull for family members dying and becoming quadriplegics. Lost a niece at Thanksgiving on the side of the family that is allergic to work. She left two nice little kids my wife and I are trying to deal with.> > We are using your engine builder to to overhaul a C-85 stroker for one of the training Cubs. That one swallowed a valve. We had a C-90 on it but a local IA was doing some work and decided to start the engine without the throttle cable attached. It went to half throttle, rocked forward on the chocks and made a nice curly cue out of the propeller. Worse was it trashed the crankshaft and the accessory case. We found a crank for 7K and decided it would be faster and easier to overhaul the 85.> > Say Hi to Susan!> > Best,> -john-> > > > > On Jan 2, 2016, at 9:09 AM, Jack Textor > wrote:> >>> >> > Happy New Year Hof! Our address has changed:> > 2400 SE Walnut Woods Ct> > West Des Moines, IA 50265> >> > Am I current on dues?> > Thanks> > Jack Textor> > 515-490-5177 > >> > -----Original Message-----
Hi Tony,Yes you are on the list for a few more newsletters. T-Shirts at Brodhead are usually either sold by the Pietenpol family or by Pat Weeden. If you are thinking of the red Sky Scout shirt, Pat told me he only had 18 of those printed up. Best,-john-> On Jan 3, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Tony Crawford wrote:> > Hello John,> I was wondering where I stand with news letters? I did get my last one back in September or so off the Matronics web site. And the one before that from you. Am I on the list to receive the current and the next one that will come out in March???? Question?? I did make it to Brodhead this year. I did buy 2 T-shirts while there. I did not look at them until I got back to Alabama. They are great shirts but they are not the ones i had seen on the Brodhead website. I was looking for the T-shirt with the Sky Scout design. Do you know if they are still available?? Thank You!> > Tony> > Tony Crawford > > On Sat, Jan 2, 2016 at 12:12 PM, John Hofmann > wrote:>> > Thanks Jack,> > Have a Happy New Year.> > New newsletter issue this week. Nice carburetor article by Bob Kachergius. You are good for three more issues. I think we are in a bit of a lull for family members dying and becoming quadriplegics. Lost a niece at Thanksgiving on the side of the family that is allergic to work. She left two nice little kids my wife and I are trying to deal with.> > We are using your engine builder to to overhaul a C-85 stroker for one of the training Cubs. That one swallowed a valve. We had a C-90 on it but a local IA was doing some work and decided to start the engine without the throttle cable attached. It went to half throttle, rocked forward on the chocks and made a nice curly cue out of the propeller. Worse was it trashed the crankshaft and the accessory case. We found a crank for 7K and decided it would be faster and easier to overhaul the 85.> > Say Hi to Susan!> > Best,> -john-> > > > > On Jan 2, 2016, at 9:09 AM, Jack Textor > wrote:> >>> >> > Happy New Year Hof! Our address has changed:> > 2400 SE Walnut Woods Ct> > West Des Moines, IA 50265> >> > Am I current on dues?> > Thanks> > Jack Textor> > 515-490-5177 > >> > -----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Slightly OT: Video of friend's Pup
Original Posted By: "Boatright, Jeffrey"
Jeff: thanks. I was just watching the video and as the flight progresses, fuelstreaks back farther and farther aft from the cap as if it was streaming out.I'd like to know more about what he powers it with. A 1/2VW? When he pulls itthrough to start the engine, it seems to have pretty good compression. He seemsto fly the approach "down the slot" at about the same rate as your Piet, ifnot maybe just a bit faster! Must be that enclosed cockpit, eh? ;o)--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Jeff: thanks. I was just watching the video and as the flight progresses, fuelstreaks back farther and farther aft from the cap as if it was streaming out.I'd like to know more about what he powers it with. A 1/2VW? When he pulls itthrough to start the engine, it seems to have pretty good compression. He seemsto fly the approach "down the slot" at about the same rate as your Piet, ifnot maybe just a bit faster! Must be that enclosed cockpit, eh? ;o)--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: BPA Newsletter PDF
Original Posted By: Tony Crawford
Yep, 1/2VWGreat compression on one cylinder, ok on other.He carries about 1500 rpm and about 55-60 mph all the way to flare. Similar speedto Piet with closed throttle. It is a little slower in rool than the Piet.Definitely a leaf in the wind feeling.Jeffrey H. Boatright, PhD, FARVOProfessor of OphthalmologyEmory University School of MedicineSent from an iPad with a spelling problem> On Jan 4, 2016, at 12:33 AM, "taildrags" wrote:>>> Jeff: thanks. I was just watching the video and as the flight progresses, fuelstreaks back farther and farther aft from the cap as if it was streaming out.>> I'd like to know more about what he powers it with. A 1/2VW? When he pullsit through to start the engine, it seems to have pretty good compression. Heseems to fly the approach "down the slot" at about the same rate as your Piet,if not maybe just a bit faster! Must be that enclosed cockpit, eh? ;o)>> --------> Oscar Zuniga> Medford, OR> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"> A75 power>>> Read this topic online here:>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use ofthe intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privilegedinformation. If the reader of this message is not the intendedrecipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distributionor copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictlyprohibited.If you have received this message in error, please contactthe sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of theoriginal message (including attachments).________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 04:31:58 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: BPA Newsletter PDF
Yep, 1/2VWGreat compression on one cylinder, ok on other.He carries about 1500 rpm and about 55-60 mph all the way to flare. Similar speedto Piet with closed throttle. It is a little slower in rool than the Piet.Definitely a leaf in the wind feeling.Jeffrey H. Boatright, PhD, FARVOProfessor of OphthalmologyEmory University School of MedicineSent from an iPad with a spelling problem> On Jan 4, 2016, at 12:33 AM, "taildrags" wrote:>>> Jeff: thanks. I was just watching the video and as the flight progresses, fuelstreaks back farther and farther aft from the cap as if it was streaming out.>> I'd like to know more about what he powers it with. A 1/2VW? When he pullsit through to start the engine, it seems to have pretty good compression. Heseems to fly the approach "down the slot" at about the same rate as your Piet,if not maybe just a bit faster! Must be that enclosed cockpit, eh? ;o)>> --------> Oscar Zuniga> Medford, OR> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"> A75 power>>> Read this topic online here:>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use ofthe intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privilegedinformation. If the reader of this message is not the intendedrecipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distributionor copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictlyprohibited.If you have received this message in error, please contactthe sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of theoriginal message (including attachments).________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 04:31:58 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: BPA Newsletter PDF
Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Leather Helmet For Sale
Original Posted By: Marcus Zechini
I=99m selling this for a person that wanted to build a Piet, but cannot.Brand New =93 Never Worn =93 Top QualityPerrone Leather Helmet listed for $75 in catalog. He will take $60Picture AttachedBarry DavisNX973BP________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 13:10:08 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Leather Helmet For Sale
I=99m selling this for a person that wanted to build a Piet, but cannot.Brand New =93 Never Worn =93 Top QualityPerrone Leather Helmet listed for $75 in catalog. He will take $60Picture AttachedBarry DavisNX973BP________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 13:10:08 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Leather Helmet For Sale
RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Leather Helmet For Sale
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
SOLD, but he thinks he bought another one. I=99ll post in a couple of days if he finds it.Thanks
SOLD, but he thinks he bought another one. I=99ll post in a couple of days if he finds it.Thanks