Brodhead Pietenpol Association

Original Posted By: "Jack Philips"
Hi Pieters,In joining the two fuselage sides, I placed the =BD in x 1in struts and braces in the vertical, ie, with the =91thin=92 side to the gusset. I=92ve been told this is incorrect as there is only half the surface area to the gusset compared with the other way round. Looking at various construction photos on West Coast Piet and this forum, I have noticed that others have appeared to do the same as I have.Is there a =91correct=92 way?Do I need to re-do the construction? I=92d rather do it before I go any further, if it needs to be done.Regards, David Boarder (Tasmania)________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
David,I did mine as you did, with the 1=94 dimension aligned with the width of thelongerons. This is the correct way to do it so that gussets on the interiorof the fuselage can be applied across the longerons and the braces andverticals. See photo below:Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia

Original Posted By:> owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li
I added space blocks inside of the "v"shape and 1/8"ply gussets top and bottom of the fuse. Ain't goin no whereGlen> On Sep 18, 2016, at 4:22 AM, Jack Philips wrote:> > David,> > I did mine as you did, with the 1=9D dimension aligned with the width of the longerons. This is the correct way to do it so that gussets on the interior of the fuselage can be applied across the longerons and the braces and verticals. See photo below:> > > > Jack Phillips> NX899JP> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia>

Original Posted By: cessna7226g(at)aol.com

Original Posted By: MacBook Pro
David;On a different note, what type of wood are you building your structural memberswith? I've heard people say that spruce is not available down under, and thatbuilders there use hoop pine. Looking at the physical properties of hoop pine,it looks to be quite similar to spruce, stronger but a bit heavier. Verysimilar to Douglas fir but not quite as heavy.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 power, 72x36 Culver propRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage joining

Original Posted By:> "taildrags"
Oscar,Im building the ship out of Douglas Fir, called Oregon Pine here. Spruce is notavailable commercially. Hoop pine comes from Queensland on the Big Island and is expensive compared withthe DF which is imported into the state from Canada or Alaska. There is alsothe extra cost of having it freighted to Tasmania. I managed to buy a lot ofDF from a local importer/supplier that had been cut for another plane builderand been racked for over 12 months. The original order lapsed, so I bought it.Very fine grained and straight. I must admit I enjoy working with DF. I havenot cut back on the sizing of the pieces. There is a weight difference, but Imon a diet.I did buy some hoop pine when I was up in Queensland a year or so ago, but it didntseem to have any grain structure, if that makes sense. I understand thatthe hoop pine cut now is farmed; all the good stuff being taken long ago. I readsomewhere it was used to make banana boxes!Instead of Ash I am using some eucalypt, known in Aus. as Tasmanian Oak. This canbe from a whole range of eucalyptus species but is plenty strong and lightif you select the right piece (one of the species is known as Mountain Ash).Unfortunately, being an island state (smaller than West Virginia with a populationless than Wyoming), everything has to come across a stretch of water and noneof the local businesses stock items such as AN graded bolts and 4130 chromolysteel. Beautiful place to live, though.David> > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: fuselage joining

Original Posted By: Steven Dortch
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: rib jigOscarYour explanation is poeticalSemihOn Wednesday, October 5, 2016, Ray Krause wrote:> raykrause(at)frontiernet.net >>> Oscar,>> I agree!>> Ray Krause>> Sent from my iPad>> > On Oct 4, 2016, at 9:12 PM, taildrags > wrote:> >> >> >> > It's impossible to grow tired of seeing ribs and rib jigs. They seem to> capture the essence of flight just by virtue of the airfoil shape combined> with the trussed structure, the wood, and the glue. Not even sitting in a> bare wood fuselage gives me the same feeling of flight as seeing bare wing> ribs. Sitting in a fuselage always makes me think of lining it up for> landing with an imaginary runway centerline straight ahead, but wing ribs> always say "flying" and "airplane" to me.> >> > --------> > Oscar Zuniga> > Medford, OR> > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"> > A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop> >> >> >> >> > Read this topic online here:> >> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 952#460952> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>-- Semih Oksay________________________________________________________________________________