Original Posted By: Steven Dortch
Subject: Pietenpol-List: VERY OT my recent Instrument training.Hit delete NOW. This is a long winded OT report on my Instrument training.None of it is Pietenpol related. Don=99t Bitch about having read it if youdon't want to, just hit delete.Yesterday, I completed my IFR checkride and did quite well. After 25 plusyears as an off and on VFR pilot who had dabbled at IFR training, I decidedto use my GI Bill for a post Army retirement flying career. I just wantsomeone else to pay for my flying hobby. Step one was to get a instrumentticket.After looking at quite a few schools, I selected of Tempus TrainingSolutions in San Marcos, Texas. I wanted a school with a good reputationand they had to be able to do Part 141 training and be able to get GI Billapproval. Redbird Proflight Academy moved Flight training operations toTempus Training. (BTW there is a CFI shortage that has affected mostschools.) Tempus met these requirements and was $3500 cheaper than theother part 141 programs due to extensive Sim use.Tempus is the flight training laboratory for Redbird and uses Redbird fullmotion flight simulators and has an agreement with the FAA that allows themto do a majority of the training in the Sim with the student proving hisknowledge in the aircraft. The flight sim closely replicates the 2006Cessna 172Ses used by the flight academy, including the G1000. The aircraftare well maintained. The Chief pilot for Tempus (a retired F16 driver) hasbeen able to attract good CFIs by understanding that they were going tomove on and by helping them get ratings and resume enhancing jobs. (IE myinstructor took a break from teaching to fly a Pilatus PC12 from Nairobi,Back to Virginia via Europe and then North sea.) He also treats them asprofessionals and expects them to act accordingly. Several instructors whobecame Airline or Corporate pilots come back on their days off to teach(and earn a little change.)The first thing I had to overcome was 25 years of lazy VFR habits such assimply getting close to an altitude or letting the plane drift off heading.I did however get complements on my ability to fly the plane, do cross windlandingsAt week two, I started having equilibrium problems (Dizzy) , more in thesim than in the plane. I had to cancel several flights and end some simsessions early. I called a retired Army National Guard buddy who had beenthe Flight Surgeon for the Texas Army National Guard and told him myproblem. He told me several things to try. There has been a huge moldproblem in South Texas and the mold count was so high that even those notallergic were having problems. So he told me to take Allegra (NOTAllegra-D) and use Flonase on my nose every day. Also to Shower often toget the mold off of me. He told me to start wearing my reading glasses forevery IFR session and any time I read or used a computer. I had not usedthem early in the day since I could focus, but as my eyes got tired andwould not focus, I would put them on. I had been swimming with my grandsonsand he told me not to get my head more than three feet below the surface. Heended by saying sleep and eat at the right times and drink water. I thinkit was a combination of the mold and my aging eyesight. Though I am notsure which one it was, it worked. In two days I was fine.I felt really good about my learning curve at first, but after about 3weeks I simply felt like I would never get it. If I looked away from theAttitude Inidcator, I climbed, dove, turned or a combination of all three.Taking time to write things down, read them, change frequencies, set upthe GPS flight plan, get my tablet set up on an approach procedure, changea freq, check the engine gauges or anything else resulted in a deviationfrom heading and/or altitude.I called Vernon Foster, a 99 year old buddy. Vern was once a pilot forUnited Airlines and became their manager of flight simulator engineeringand maintenance. He did my tailwheel signoff two years ago at the young ageof 97. I told Vern of my problems and how I would never get it. He listenedpatiently and then laughed and said "you are at the right place in yourtraining. Every pilot thinks that they just aren't going to figure outInstrument flight! It will start to come together and when it does it willget easier." He questioned me about what I was doing and his pearl ofwisdom was. "Let Go of the yoke when you look away from the AI!. If theplane is trimmed and flying level it will continue on course while you take5 seconds to do something. So just let go!" That fixed my problem. I wassteering the way I was looking!This school uses iPads to manage the Simulators and all of the instructorshave drank the Foreflight Koolaide. So I had to get an iPad, buy foreflightand learn to use it. (I joined NAFI and got a good enough foreflightdiscount that it almost paid for the NAFI membership.)It took me a while to get down the G1000 buttonology. This High tech devicewill do a lot of things including providing IFR certified GPS guidance forthe pilot (or an autopilot), show a moving map. display all the neededinstruments for IFR flight, Show required altitudes, and so on and soforth. I spent many hours in the sim just figuring out how to do simplethings like activating the next leg on an approach, or how to delete andadd an approach. I finally learned to use all the needed functions of aG1000 but it has MANY functions that I have not figured out.I had to learn the balance between trying to get ahead of the plane (IEsetting the next approach up) and just flying with what I needed to get toheading and altitude. For example, I had to not try to extract more infofrom the G1000 while on approaching an ILS approach, "just intercept andfly the localizer and glide slope."About two and a half weeks ago, I had to cancel my scheduled IFR checkridedue to a lot of Cumulus activity in our area. Also, I felt marginallyready. Then there was a sudden shortage of DPEs. Many students in theHouston area were scheduling with "our" DPEs. It took me until yesterday toget my checkride and that was on a Sunday morning.My checkride went very well. Even with trainee ATC controllers and the PTTon the DPE side failing 10 minutes into the flight. I asked for a RNAVapproach to 31 with a circle to runway 13. But the controller told me wehad to use 13 and we could circle at ORALE (confusing a circle with a holdpattern). My DPE explained I had to explain that I was on a checkride andhad to do an approach and circle to a different runway. This confused themand the DPE PTT quit right then. So I requested an approach to 13, holdingat the IAF and a circle to 31 and proposed that I to do a low approach. Iwas able to take all this in stride, the DPE was pleased with my ability tocommunicate and execute. My Checkride was much easier than my "pre checkride" with the Tempus chief pilot. The DPE said he wished all checkrideswent so well.All in all, a good experience and glad I did it. I did not enjoy instrumenttraining though I did get comfortable doing it. It is not near as fun VFRflight, but it sure adds to my ability. Next Step is my commercial ticket.BTW I was driving back from lunch and saw the distinctive curve of aPietenpol wing in a hangar. Slammed on the brakes and who do I find but ourown "Axle" working on his AirCamper. Man it sure looks purty! He is a truecraftsman. (Pietenpol Content!)Blue Skies,Steve D________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: VERY OT my recent Instrument training.
Pietenpol-List: Re: VERY OT my recent Instrument training.
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Original Posted By: "tools"
I'm responding to this OT post with more OT material in the context of severalthings: (1) Steve is one of the few individuals with the nerve to have gone upwith me in Scout, (2) Steve is one of the few individuals who came out to helpme disassemble and help load Scout into the big yellow Penske truck for the2100 mile journey from Texas to Oregon, (3) all of my instrument time has beenat the same time extremely enjoyable and extremely challenging, and (4) my lastflight review was in a C172 with the Garmin G1000 full glass panel and I wasso impressed with it that my eyeballs nearly fell out.Moving right along, I don't care to talk about items (1), (2) or (4) other thanto again tip my hat to Steve for always being ready to lend a hand and to tipmy already-tipped hat to anyone who can learn the dials and buttons on the G1000so as to use even 1/10th of its capabilities. If not for the fact that theG1000 panel costs about as much as four or five nice Air Campers, it would befun to keep writing about it but that's not my world anymore, I'm finally conceding.So now to comment on item (3). Every moment that I've spent under the hood orin 'actual' has been some of the most enjoyable and rewarding time that I've everspent in airplanes, but it was about as different a flying experience froman open-cockpit Air Camper as you can imagine. I am an engineer with a completelylogical outlook and mindset and I completely 'get' instrument flying. Ican visualize everything about instrument flying in my head, and I can almostalways translate that to the instrument actions as I manipulate the controls,but it's a completely different flying experience, period. I've flown jet andprop sims and I've flown real single and twin hardware, and I always love thechallenge. I envy those who have the rating and wish I had gotten mine too,but now my flying is all about stick and rudder and just the sensations of flightand the airplane. Nothing much on the instrument panel is of interest tome anymore if it does nothing to keep the airplane in the air or help me keepit so. Every now and then I have a weak moment when I open the latest AOPA Pilotmagazine (I get the Turbine Edition!) and see the super cool panels and instruments,but then it passes and I remember that I much prefer the smell oftoo-rich Continental exhaust to looking at a glass panel.Sometimes I regret not going for my instrument. As Marlon Brando said in the classicmovie "On The Waterfront": "You don't understand. I coulda had class. Icoulda been a contender. I coulda been somebody, instead of a bum, which is whatI am, let's face it."--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 power, 72x36 Culver propRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: VERY OT my recent Instrument training.
I'm responding to this OT post with more OT material in the context of severalthings: (1) Steve is one of the few individuals with the nerve to have gone upwith me in Scout, (2) Steve is one of the few individuals who came out to helpme disassemble and help load Scout into the big yellow Penske truck for the2100 mile journey from Texas to Oregon, (3) all of my instrument time has beenat the same time extremely enjoyable and extremely challenging, and (4) my lastflight review was in a C172 with the Garmin G1000 full glass panel and I wasso impressed with it that my eyeballs nearly fell out.Moving right along, I don't care to talk about items (1), (2) or (4) other thanto again tip my hat to Steve for always being ready to lend a hand and to tipmy already-tipped hat to anyone who can learn the dials and buttons on the G1000so as to use even 1/10th of its capabilities. If not for the fact that theG1000 panel costs about as much as four or five nice Air Campers, it would befun to keep writing about it but that's not my world anymore, I'm finally conceding.So now to comment on item (3). Every moment that I've spent under the hood orin 'actual' has been some of the most enjoyable and rewarding time that I've everspent in airplanes, but it was about as different a flying experience froman open-cockpit Air Camper as you can imagine. I am an engineer with a completelylogical outlook and mindset and I completely 'get' instrument flying. Ican visualize everything about instrument flying in my head, and I can almostalways translate that to the instrument actions as I manipulate the controls,but it's a completely different flying experience, period. I've flown jet andprop sims and I've flown real single and twin hardware, and I always love thechallenge. I envy those who have the rating and wish I had gotten mine too,but now my flying is all about stick and rudder and just the sensations of flightand the airplane. Nothing much on the instrument panel is of interest tome anymore if it does nothing to keep the airplane in the air or help me keepit so. Every now and then I have a weak moment when I open the latest AOPA Pilotmagazine (I get the Turbine Edition!) and see the super cool panels and instruments,but then it passes and I remember that I much prefer the smell oftoo-rich Continental exhaust to looking at a glass panel.Sometimes I regret not going for my instrument. As Marlon Brando said in the classicmovie "On The Waterfront": "You don't understand. I coulda had class. Icoulda been a contender. I coulda been somebody, instead of a bum, which is whatI am, let's face it."--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 power, 72x36 Culver propRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: VERY OT my recent Instrument training.
Original Posted By: Jack
My hat is off to ya! Light civil instrument flying is quite a handful...My first exposure was being a safety pilot for a bud in a 172 in about 1995. Theglide slope and azimuth were different instruments! Not even built into theattitude gyro! Wow.The second was my ATP check ride in a very old Beech Travel Air twin in 1998. To this day the only time I've ever even sat in a light civil twin. First, mytwo hours in that 172 meant nothing as everything was so different. Second,turns out it can't fly on one engine... What? My third, this is quite funny, was as a CFII giving a lesson about two years ago!Again, despite my other two forays and about a DOZEN military and commercialinstrument capable plane types, NOTHING was the same. Isn't there any realstandardization out there? The instrument part of flying, pitch power and attitudeare quite similar, but the stuff that gives you situational awareness horizontallyand vertically are not. Not even close. In the last two years I've been flying some trips with a bud who's company ownsa couple citations and rents one. Again, everything is SO different betweenthe planes. Trust me, you've gutted through the worst of it. When you get a paying job withdecent equipment, your life will get better. Can't imagine anything less funthan manipulating the controls of an underpowered marginal flying 172 underthe hood on a hot summer bumpy day. When you get decent aerodynamics and somepower, it is a lot more fun, useful and in my opinion, safe. Light civil equipmentteaches habits and the ability to formulate a scan pattern. Also, and probably the most relevant aspect, is you'll be able to maintain somereal proficiency. After five years of dabbling in light civil aviation, I'mfinally to the point where I'm flying weekly as I have access to a number of planes,doing some instructing, BFRs, etc. for the first time I feel really proficient.It's a nice feeling, even better than the proficiency of being a student.Congratulations! Let us know how the commercial is going! ToolsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
My hat is off to ya! Light civil instrument flying is quite a handful...My first exposure was being a safety pilot for a bud in a 172 in about 1995. Theglide slope and azimuth were different instruments! Not even built into theattitude gyro! Wow.The second was my ATP check ride in a very old Beech Travel Air twin in 1998. To this day the only time I've ever even sat in a light civil twin. First, mytwo hours in that 172 meant nothing as everything was so different. Second,turns out it can't fly on one engine... What? My third, this is quite funny, was as a CFII giving a lesson about two years ago!Again, despite my other two forays and about a DOZEN military and commercialinstrument capable plane types, NOTHING was the same. Isn't there any realstandardization out there? The instrument part of flying, pitch power and attitudeare quite similar, but the stuff that gives you situational awareness horizontallyand vertically are not. Not even close. In the last two years I've been flying some trips with a bud who's company ownsa couple citations and rents one. Again, everything is SO different betweenthe planes. Trust me, you've gutted through the worst of it. When you get a paying job withdecent equipment, your life will get better. Can't imagine anything less funthan manipulating the controls of an underpowered marginal flying 172 underthe hood on a hot summer bumpy day. When you get decent aerodynamics and somepower, it is a lot more fun, useful and in my opinion, safe. Light civil equipmentteaches habits and the ability to formulate a scan pattern. Also, and probably the most relevant aspect, is you'll be able to maintain somereal proficiency. After five years of dabbling in light civil aviation, I'mfinally to the point where I'm flying weekly as I have access to a number of planes,doing some instructing, BFRs, etc. for the first time I feel really proficient.It's a nice feeling, even better than the proficiency of being a student.Congratulations! Let us know how the commercial is going! ToolsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: VERY OT my recent Instrument training.
Original Posted By: "jarheadpilot82"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: VERY OT my recent Instrument training.Oscar,You have a great way of describing things. I, as well, am a MEII and have considerable experience behind the panel in instrument conditions. But, I agree with you that flying my Piet (Abe's Babe II) ( my wife is Abe's Babe I) just to clarify, is absolutely the most fun and full of satisfaction I've ever had in an airplane. It redefines the flying experience. I have a radio in my airplane but rarely turn it on. Thanks for the reminder of what and why we fly our beloved Piets.I do have a question about you last post. Please clarify how Steve flew with you in your Scout? Surely he didn't share the cockpit with you=F0=9F=98=89As always, thanks for your input. I enjoy your posts.JackN144JFModel AWire wheelsSent from my iPad> On Sep 20, 2016, at 12:55 AM, taildrags wrote:> > > I'm responding to this OT post with more OT material in the context of several things: (1) Steve is one of the few individuals with the nerve to have gone up with me in Scout, (2) Steve is one of the few individuals who came out to help me disassemble and help load Scout into the big yellow Penske truck for the 2100 mile journey from Texas to Oregon, (3) all of my instrument time has been at the same time extremely enjoyable and extremely challenging, and (4) my last flight review was in a C172 with the Garmin G1000 full glass panel and I was so impressed with it that my eyeballs nearly fell out.> > Moving right along, I don't care to talk about items (1), (2) or (4) other than to again tip my hat to Steve for always being ready to lend a hand and to tip my already-tipped hat to anyone who can learn the dials and buttons on the G1000 so as to use even 1/10th of its capabilities. If not for the fact that the G1000 panel costs about as much as four or five nice Air Campers, it would be fun to keep writing about it but that's not my world anymore, I'm finally conceding.> > So now to comment on item (3). Every moment that I've spent under the hood or in 'actual' has been some of the most enjoyable and rewarding time that I've ever spent in airplanes, but it was about as different a flying experience from an open-cockpit Air Camper as you can imagine. I am an engineer with a completely logical outlook and mindset and I completely 'get' instrument flying. I can visualize everything about instrument flying in my head, and I can almost always translate that to the instrument actions as I manipulate the controls, but it's a completely different flying experience, period. I've flown jet and prop sims and I've flown real single and twin hardware, and I always love the challenge. I envy those who have the rating and wish I had gotten mine too, but now my flying is all about stick and rudder and just the sensations of flight and the airplane. Nothing much on the instrument panel is of interest to me anymore if it does nothing to keep the airplane !> in the air or help me keep it so. Every now and then I have a weak moment when I open the latest AOPA Pilot magazine (I get the Turbine Edition!) and see the super cool panels and instruments, but then it passes and I remember that I much prefer the smell of too-rich Continental exhaust to looking at a glass panel.> > Sometimes I regret not going for my instrument. As Marlon Brando said in the classic movie "On The Waterfront": "You don't understand. I coulda had class. I coulda been a contender. I coulda been somebody, instead of a bum, which is what I am, let's face it."> > --------> Oscar Zuniga> Medford, OR> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"> A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 606#460606> > > > > > > ===============================================================================================================================================================================> > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: VERY OT my recent Instrument training.
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: VERY OT my recent Instrument training.Oscar,You have a great way of describing things. I, as well, am a MEII and have considerable experience behind the panel in instrument conditions. But, I agree with you that flying my Piet (Abe's Babe II) ( my wife is Abe's Babe I) just to clarify, is absolutely the most fun and full of satisfaction I've ever had in an airplane. It redefines the flying experience. I have a radio in my airplane but rarely turn it on. Thanks for the reminder of what and why we fly our beloved Piets.I do have a question about you last post. Please clarify how Steve flew with you in your Scout? Surely he didn't share the cockpit with you=F0=9F=98=89As always, thanks for your input. I enjoy your posts.JackN144JFModel AWire wheelsSent from my iPad> On Sep 20, 2016, at 12:55 AM, taildrags wrote:> > > I'm responding to this OT post with more OT material in the context of several things: (1) Steve is one of the few individuals with the nerve to have gone up with me in Scout, (2) Steve is one of the few individuals who came out to help me disassemble and help load Scout into the big yellow Penske truck for the 2100 mile journey from Texas to Oregon, (3) all of my instrument time has been at the same time extremely enjoyable and extremely challenging, and (4) my last flight review was in a C172 with the Garmin G1000 full glass panel and I was so impressed with it that my eyeballs nearly fell out.> > Moving right along, I don't care to talk about items (1), (2) or (4) other than to again tip my hat to Steve for always being ready to lend a hand and to tip my already-tipped hat to anyone who can learn the dials and buttons on the G1000 so as to use even 1/10th of its capabilities. If not for the fact that the G1000 panel costs about as much as four or five nice Air Campers, it would be fun to keep writing about it but that's not my world anymore, I'm finally conceding.> > So now to comment on item (3). Every moment that I've spent under the hood or in 'actual' has been some of the most enjoyable and rewarding time that I've ever spent in airplanes, but it was about as different a flying experience from an open-cockpit Air Camper as you can imagine. I am an engineer with a completely logical outlook and mindset and I completely 'get' instrument flying. I can visualize everything about instrument flying in my head, and I can almost always translate that to the instrument actions as I manipulate the controls, but it's a completely different flying experience, period. I've flown jet and prop sims and I've flown real single and twin hardware, and I always love the challenge. I envy those who have the rating and wish I had gotten mine too, but now my flying is all about stick and rudder and just the sensations of flight and the airplane. Nothing much on the instrument panel is of interest to me anymore if it does nothing to keep the airplane !> in the air or help me keep it so. Every now and then I have a weak moment when I open the latest AOPA Pilot magazine (I get the Turbine Edition!) and see the super cool panels and instruments, but then it passes and I remember that I much prefer the smell of too-rich Continental exhaust to looking at a glass panel.> > Sometimes I regret not going for my instrument. As Marlon Brando said in the classic movie "On The Waterfront": "You don't understand. I coulda had class. I coulda been a contender. I coulda been somebody, instead of a bum, which is what I am, let's face it."> > --------> Oscar Zuniga> Medford, OR> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"> A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 606#460606> > > > > > > ===============================================================================================================================================================================> > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: VERY OT my recent Instrument training.
Original Posted By: Steven Dortch
Jack,"Scout" is Oscar's name for his Pietenpol Air Camper, not the name of his aircraftmodel.--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GARead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Jack,"Scout" is Oscar's name for his Pietenpol Air Camper, not the name of his aircraftmodel.--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GARead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: VERY OT my recent Instrument training.
Original Posted By: Fastnaught John
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: VERY OT my recent Instrument training.Jack, Oscar and I are quite comfortable with each other. Scout is the nameof Oscars AirCamper! two holes. (we ain't that comfortable with each other!)Bleu Skies,Steve DOn Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 9:07 AM, Jack wrote:> Oscar,> You have a great way of describing things. I, as well, am a MEII and have> considerable experience behind the panel in instrument conditions. But, I> agree with you that flying my Piet (Abe's Babe II) ( my wife is Abe's Babe> I) just to clarify, is absolutely the most fun and full of satisfaction> I've ever had in an airplane. It redefines the flying experience. I have a> radio in my airplane but rarely turn it on. Thanks for the reminder of what> and why we fly our beloved Piets.> I do have a question about you last post. Please clarify how Steve flew> with you in your Scout? Surely he didn't share the cockpit with you=F0=9F=98=89> As always, thanks for your input. I enjoy your posts.> Jack> N144JF> Model A> Wire wheels>> Sent from my iPad>> On Sep 20, 2016, at 12:55 AM, taildrags wrote:>>> I'm responding to this OT post with more OT material in the context of> several things: (1) Steve is one of the few individuals with the nerve to> have gone up with me in Scout, (2) Steve is one of the few individuals who> came out to help me disassemble and help load Scout into the big yellow> Penske truck for the 2100 mile journey from Texas to Oregon, (3) all of my> instrument time has been at the same time extremely enjoyable and extremely> challenging, and (4) my last flight review was in a C172 with the Garmin> G1000 full glass panel and I was so impressed with it that my eyeballs> nearly fell out.>> Moving right along, I don't care to talk about items (1), (2) or (4) other> than to again tip my hat to Steve for always being ready to lend a hand and> to tip my already-tipped hat to anyone who can learn the dials and buttons> on the G1000 so as to use even 1/10th of its capabilities. If not for the> fact that the G1000 panel costs about as much as four or five nice Air> Campers, it would be fun to keep writing about it but that's not my world> anymore, I'm finally conceding.>> So now to comment on item (3). Every moment that I've spent under the> hood or in 'actual' has been some of the most enjoyable and rewarding time> that I've ever spent in airplanes, but it was about as different a flying> experience from an open-cockpit Air Camper as you can imagine. I am an> engineer with a completely logical outlook and mindset and I completely> 'get' instrument flying. I can visualize everything about instrument> flying in my head, and I can almost always translate that to the instrument> actions as I manipulate the controls, but it's a completely different> flying experience, period. I've flown jet and prop sims and I've flown> real single and twin hardware, and I always love the challenge. I envy> those who have the rating and wish I had gotten mine too, but now my flying> is all about stick and rudder and just the sensations of flight and the> airplane. Nothing much on the instrument panel is of interest to me> anymore if it does nothing to keep the airplane !> in the air or help me keep it so. Every now and then I have a weak moment> when I open the latest AOPA Pilot magazine (I get the Turbine Edition!) and> see the super cool panels and instruments, but then it passes and I> remember that I much prefer the smell of too-rich Continental exhaust to> looking at a glass panel.>> Sometimes I regret not going for my instrument. As Marlon Brando said in> the classic movie "On The Waterfront": "You don't understand. I coulda had> class. I coulda been a contender. I coulda been somebody, instead of a bum,> which is what I am, let's face it.">> --------> Oscar Zuniga> Medford, OR> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"> A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop>>> Read this topic online here:>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 606#460606>>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pieten=============> =======================================bsp; -> NEW MATRONICS LIST WIK=========================> http://www.matronics.com/contr==================>>-- Blue Skies,Steve D________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: VERY OT my recent Instrument training.
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: VERY OT my recent Instrument training.Jack, Oscar and I are quite comfortable with each other. Scout is the nameof Oscars AirCamper! two holes. (we ain't that comfortable with each other!)Bleu Skies,Steve DOn Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 9:07 AM, Jack wrote:> Oscar,> You have a great way of describing things. I, as well, am a MEII and have> considerable experience behind the panel in instrument conditions. But, I> agree with you that flying my Piet (Abe's Babe II) ( my wife is Abe's Babe> I) just to clarify, is absolutely the most fun and full of satisfaction> I've ever had in an airplane. It redefines the flying experience. I have a> radio in my airplane but rarely turn it on. Thanks for the reminder of what> and why we fly our beloved Piets.> I do have a question about you last post. Please clarify how Steve flew> with you in your Scout? Surely he didn't share the cockpit with you=F0=9F=98=89> As always, thanks for your input. I enjoy your posts.> Jack> N144JF> Model A> Wire wheels>> Sent from my iPad>> On Sep 20, 2016, at 12:55 AM, taildrags wrote:>>> I'm responding to this OT post with more OT material in the context of> several things: (1) Steve is one of the few individuals with the nerve to> have gone up with me in Scout, (2) Steve is one of the few individuals who> came out to help me disassemble and help load Scout into the big yellow> Penske truck for the 2100 mile journey from Texas to Oregon, (3) all of my> instrument time has been at the same time extremely enjoyable and extremely> challenging, and (4) my last flight review was in a C172 with the Garmin> G1000 full glass panel and I was so impressed with it that my eyeballs> nearly fell out.>> Moving right along, I don't care to talk about items (1), (2) or (4) other> than to again tip my hat to Steve for always being ready to lend a hand and> to tip my already-tipped hat to anyone who can learn the dials and buttons> on the G1000 so as to use even 1/10th of its capabilities. If not for the> fact that the G1000 panel costs about as much as four or five nice Air> Campers, it would be fun to keep writing about it but that's not my world> anymore, I'm finally conceding.>> So now to comment on item (3). Every moment that I've spent under the> hood or in 'actual' has been some of the most enjoyable and rewarding time> that I've ever spent in airplanes, but it was about as different a flying> experience from an open-cockpit Air Camper as you can imagine. I am an> engineer with a completely logical outlook and mindset and I completely> 'get' instrument flying. I can visualize everything about instrument> flying in my head, and I can almost always translate that to the instrument> actions as I manipulate the controls, but it's a completely different> flying experience, period. I've flown jet and prop sims and I've flown> real single and twin hardware, and I always love the challenge. I envy> those who have the rating and wish I had gotten mine too, but now my flying> is all about stick and rudder and just the sensations of flight and the> airplane. Nothing much on the instrument panel is of interest to me> anymore if it does nothing to keep the airplane !> in the air or help me keep it so. Every now and then I have a weak moment> when I open the latest AOPA Pilot magazine (I get the Turbine Edition!) and> see the super cool panels and instruments, but then it passes and I> remember that I much prefer the smell of too-rich Continental exhaust to> looking at a glass panel.>> Sometimes I regret not going for my instrument. As Marlon Brando said in> the classic movie "On The Waterfront": "You don't understand. I coulda had> class. I coulda been a contender. I coulda been somebody, instead of a bum,> which is what I am, let's face it.">> --------> Oscar Zuniga> Medford, OR> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"> A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop>>> Read this topic online here:>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 606#460606>>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pieten=============> =======================================bsp; -> NEW MATRONICS LIST WIK=========================> http://www.matronics.com/contr==================>>-- Blue Skies,Steve D________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: VERY OT my recent Instrument training.
Pietenpol-List: Re: VERY OT my recent Instrument training.
Original Posted By: "jarheadpilot82"
Thanks Charlie all the hardware is temporary at this point.Jack TextorSent from my iPad> On Sep 22, 2016, at 2:31 PM, charles mcfarland wrote:> > > Jack,> > I know you aren't at the finishing stage in these photos, but shouldn't the> nuts be castle nuts with cotter pins? Looks like there could be a tendancy> for the nut to eventually unscrew itself as the elevator moved up and down.> > Just a thought.> > Charlie> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 675#460675> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: VERY OT my recent Instrument training.
Thanks Charlie all the hardware is temporary at this point.Jack TextorSent from my iPad> On Sep 22, 2016, at 2:31 PM, charles mcfarland wrote:> > > Jack,> > I know you aren't at the finishing stage in these photos, but shouldn't the> nuts be castle nuts with cotter pins? Looks like there could be a tendancy> for the nut to eventually unscrew itself as the elevator moved up and down.> > Just a thought.> > Charlie> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 675#460675> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: VERY OT my recent Instrument training.
Original Posted By: Rick Schreiber
Steve,Congratulations on getting the instrument ticket. I am a firm believer that eachrating achieved makes you a better overall pilot. Your understanding of theairspace system, approach criteria, weather, all of that makes you a better VFRpilot. Now that you have it, use it. Go fly IFR, and keep your skills up. Don'tlose that scan.Again, congratulations. That is a huge achievement.--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GARead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Steve,Congratulations on getting the instrument ticket. I am a firm believer that eachrating achieved makes you a better overall pilot. Your understanding of theairspace system, approach criteria, weather, all of that makes you a better VFRpilot. Now that you have it, use it. Go fly IFR, and keep your skills up. Don'tlose that scan.Again, congratulations. That is a huge achievement.--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GARead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________