Original Posted By: Jack Textor
Has anyone built and flown the 612 riblett wing. What are the pros and cons comparedwith the Piet wing. I would appreciate some discussion on this topic.ThanksCorkySent from my iPad________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Wing ribs
Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing ribs
Original Posted By: Claude Corbetti
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing ribsCorky take a look at the archives, lots of testing was done a couple years ago.If I recall there were few performance differences. But don't trust my memory.Jack TextorSent from my iPad> On Nov 16, 2016, at 1:24 PM, Claude Corbetti wrote:> > > Has anyone built and flown the 612 riblett wing. What are the pros and cons comparedwith the Piet wing. I would appreciate some discussion on this topic.> Thanks> Corky> > > Sent from my iPad> > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing ribsCorky take a look at the archives, lots of testing was done a couple years ago.If I recall there were few performance differences. But don't trust my memory.Jack TextorSent from my iPad> On Nov 16, 2016, at 1:24 PM, Claude Corbetti wrote:> > > Has anyone built and flown the 612 riblett wing. What are the pros and cons comparedwith the Piet wing. I would appreciate some discussion on this topic.> Thanks> Corky> > > Sent from my iPad> > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing ribs
Original Posted By: Jack Textor
I would If I knew hour to operate this thing. Have heard o.f the archives but haveno clue in which direction to go. I'm kinDa dumb..CorkySent from my iPad> On Nov 16, 2016, at 3:11 PM, Jack Textor wrote:> > > Corky take a look at the archives, lots of testing was done a couple years ago.If I recall there were few performance differences. But don't trust my memory.> > Jack Textor> > Sent from my iPad> >> On Nov 16, 2016, at 1:24 PM, Claude Corbetti wrote:>> >> >> Has anyone built and flown the 612 riblett wing. What are the pros and conscompared with the Piet wing. I would appreciate some discussion on this topic.>> Thanks>> Corky>> >> >> Sent from my iPad>> >> >> >> > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
I would If I knew hour to operate this thing. Have heard o.f the archives but haveno clue in which direction to go. I'm kinDa dumb..CorkySent from my iPad> On Nov 16, 2016, at 3:11 PM, Jack Textor wrote:> > > Corky take a look at the archives, lots of testing was done a couple years ago.If I recall there were few performance differences. But don't trust my memory.> > Jack Textor> > Sent from my iPad> >> On Nov 16, 2016, at 1:24 PM, Claude Corbetti wrote:>> >> >> Has anyone built and flown the 612 riblett wing. What are the pros and conscompared with the Piet wing. I would appreciate some discussion on this topic.>> Thanks>> Corky>> >> >> Sent from my iPad>> >> >> >> > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing ribs
Original Posted By: Steven Dortch
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing ribsCorky use your internet browser and go here http://www.matronics.com/searching/search.htmlSelect Pietenpol at the top.In the search string box type in riblett 612 and hit search.It will bring up any past message with riblett 612 in the body or subject areas.Try different search words and experiment, you will find lots of infoGood luck!JackJack TextorSent from my iPad> On Nov 16, 2016, at 4:11 PM, Claude Corbetti wrote:> > > I would If I knew hour to operate this thing. Have heard o.f the archives but have no clue in which direction to go. I'm kinDa dumb..> Corky> > Sent from my iPad> >> On Nov 16, 2016, at 3:11 PM, Jack Textor wrote:>> >> >> Corky take a look at the archives, lots of testing was done a couple years ago. If I recall there were few performance differences. But don't trust my memory.>> >> Jack Textor>> >> Sent from my iPad>> >>> On Nov 16, 2016, at 1:24 PM, Claude Corbetti wrote:>>> m>>>> >>> Has anyone built and flown the 612 riblett wing. What are the pros and cons compared with the Piet wing. I would appreciate some discussion on this topic.>>> Thanks>>> Corky>>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPad>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > ==================================================================================================================================================================================================================> > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing ribsCorky use your internet browser and go here http://www.matronics.com/searching/search.htmlSelect Pietenpol at the top.In the search string box type in riblett 612 and hit search.It will bring up any past message with riblett 612 in the body or subject areas.Try different search words and experiment, you will find lots of infoGood luck!JackJack TextorSent from my iPad> On Nov 16, 2016, at 4:11 PM, Claude Corbetti wrote:> > > I would If I knew hour to operate this thing. Have heard o.f the archives but have no clue in which direction to go. I'm kinDa dumb..> Corky> > Sent from my iPad> >> On Nov 16, 2016, at 3:11 PM, Jack Textor wrote:>> >> >> Corky take a look at the archives, lots of testing was done a couple years ago. If I recall there were few performance differences. But don't trust my memory.>> >> Jack Textor>> >> Sent from my iPad>> >>> On Nov 16, 2016, at 1:24 PM, Claude Corbetti wrote:>>> m>>>> >>> Has anyone built and flown the 612 riblett wing. What are the pros and cons compared with the Piet wing. I would appreciate some discussion on this topic.>>> Thanks>>> Corky>>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPad>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > ==================================================================================================================================================================================================================> > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing ribs
Original Posted By: "wheelharp"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing ribs I sometimes shortcut the search by googling,"Pietenpol, matronics andriblett." or whatever I am looking for. It usually gives me more than Ineed.Blue Skies,Steve DOn Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 4:59 PM, Jack Textor wrote:> Corky use your internet browser and go here http://www.matronics.com/> searching/search.html> Select Pietenpol at the top.> In the search string box type in riblett 612 and hit search.> It will bring up any past message with riblett 612 in the body or subject> areas.> Try different search words and experiment, you will find lots of info> Good luck!> Jack>> Jack Textor>> Sent from my iPad>> On Nov 16, 2016, at 4:11 PM, Claude Corbetti wrote:>>> I would If I knew hour to operate this thing. Have heard o.f the archives> but have no clue in which direction to go. I'm kinDa dumb..> Corky>> Sent from my iPad>> On Nov 16, 2016, at 3:11 PM, Jack Textor wrote:>>> Corky take a look at the archives, lots of testing was done a couple years> ago. If I recall there were few performance differences. But don't trust my> memory.>>> Jack Textor>>> Sent from my iPad>>> On Nov 16, 2016, at 1:24 PM, Claude Corbetti wrote:>>> Has anyone built and flown the 612 riblett wing. What are the pros and> cons compared with the Piet wing. I would appreciate some discussion on> this topic.>> Thanks>> Corky>>> Sent from my iPad>>> ====================================================nbsp; (And> Get Some AWEnbsp; the Contribution link below to find out more about> www.homebuilthelp.co= * Race Consulting http://wp; -Matt> Dralle, List Admin.> ========================== - The Pietenpol-List> Ematronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.> matronics.com/Navigator?P====================================================; -> MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -> http://www.matronics.com/============== ... ======>>-- Blue Skies,Steve D________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing ribs
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing ribs I sometimes shortcut the search by googling,"Pietenpol, matronics andriblett." or whatever I am looking for. It usually gives me more than Ineed.Blue Skies,Steve DOn Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 4:59 PM, Jack Textor wrote:> Corky use your internet browser and go here http://www.matronics.com/> searching/search.html> Select Pietenpol at the top.> In the search string box type in riblett 612 and hit search.> It will bring up any past message with riblett 612 in the body or subject> areas.> Try different search words and experiment, you will find lots of info> Good luck!> Jack>> Jack Textor>> Sent from my iPad>> On Nov 16, 2016, at 4:11 PM, Claude Corbetti wrote:>>> I would If I knew hour to operate this thing. Have heard o.f the archives> but have no clue in which direction to go. I'm kinDa dumb..> Corky>> Sent from my iPad>> On Nov 16, 2016, at 3:11 PM, Jack Textor wrote:>>> Corky take a look at the archives, lots of testing was done a couple years> ago. If I recall there were few performance differences. But don't trust my> memory.>>> Jack Textor>>> Sent from my iPad>>> On Nov 16, 2016, at 1:24 PM, Claude Corbetti wrote:>>> Has anyone built and flown the 612 riblett wing. What are the pros and> cons compared with the Piet wing. I would appreciate some discussion on> this topic.>> Thanks>> Corky>>> Sent from my iPad>>> ====================================================nbsp; (And> Get Some AWEnbsp; the Contribution link below to find out more about> www.homebuilthelp.co= * Race Consulting http://wp; -Matt> Dralle, List Admin.> ========================== - The Pietenpol-List> Ematronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.> matronics.com/Navigator?P====================================================; -> MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -> http://www.matronics.com/============== ... ======>>-- Blue Skies,Steve D________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing ribs
Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing ribs
Original Posted By: "wheelharp"
Corky, Good to see you back! I don't know if you remember me...but you kept me up to speedon Chuck Gantzer's 04 tour, and he wound up staying at my house in Mo. I believe P.F. Beck of Barnwell S.C. and a friend built identical Piets, otherthan the airfoil. They did a traditional Piet airfoil, and I THINK a riblett airfoilon Corvair powered ships. They tested a number of different aspects underas close to identical conditions as possible. The results were nearly identicalfrom what I recall. I will try to find more info.Jon--------Jon JonesIronton, MORead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing ribs
Corky, Good to see you back! I don't know if you remember me...but you kept me up to speedon Chuck Gantzer's 04 tour, and he wound up staying at my house in Mo. I believe P.F. Beck of Barnwell S.C. and a friend built identical Piets, otherthan the airfoil. They did a traditional Piet airfoil, and I THINK a riblett airfoilon Corvair powered ships. They tested a number of different aspects underas close to identical conditions as possible. The results were nearly identicalfrom what I recall. I will try to find more info.Jon--------Jon JonesIronton, MORead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing ribs
Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing ribs
Original Posted By: "wheelharp"
Corky, Good to see you back! I don't know if you remember me...but you kept me up to speedon Chuck Gantzer's 04 tour, and he wound up staying at my house in Mo. I believe P.F. Beck of Barnwell S.C. and a friend built identical Piets, otherthan the airfoil. They did a traditional Piet airfoil, and I THINK a riblett airfoilon Corvair powered ships. They tested a number of different aspects underas close to identical conditions as possible. The results were nearly identicalfrom what I recall. I will try to find more info.Jon--------Jon JonesIronton, MORead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing ribs
Corky, Good to see you back! I don't know if you remember me...but you kept me up to speedon Chuck Gantzer's 04 tour, and he wound up staying at my house in Mo. I believe P.F. Beck of Barnwell S.C. and a friend built identical Piets, otherthan the airfoil. They did a traditional Piet airfoil, and I THINK a riblett airfoilon Corvair powered ships. They tested a number of different aspects underas close to identical conditions as possible. The results were nearly identicalfrom what I recall. I will try to find more info.Jon--------Jon JonesIronton, MORead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing ribs
Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing ribs
Original Posted By: "wheelharp"
Corky,Found it I think. Here's a link.http://pietenpols.org/id18.html--------Jon JonesIronton, MORead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing ribs
Corky,Found it I think. Here's a link.http://pietenpols.org/id18.html--------Jon JonesIronton, MORead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing ribs
Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing ribs
Original Posted By: "wheelharp"
Corky,Found it I think. Here's a link.http://pietenpols.org/id18.html--------Jon JonesIronton, MORead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing ribs
Corky,Found it I think. Here's a link.http://pietenpols.org/id18.html--------Jon JonesIronton, MORead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing ribs
Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing ribs
Original Posted By: "wheelharp"
Corky,Found it I think. Here's a link.http://pietenpols.org/id18.html--------Jon JonesIronton, MORead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing ribs
Corky,Found it I think. Here's a link.http://pietenpols.org/id18.html--------Jon JonesIronton, MORead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing ribs
Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing ribs
Original Posted By: "wheelharp"
Corky,Found it I think. Here's a link.http://pietenpols.org/id18.html--------Jon JonesIronton, MORead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing ribs
Corky,Found it I think. Here's a link.http://pietenpols.org/id18.html--------Jon JonesIronton, MORead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing ribs
Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing ribs
Original Posted By: Timothy Willis
Just to add to this discussion, a bit about the Riblett airfoil nomenclature. I'm no expert on the subject, but my understanding is that the "612" is Riblett'sGA30-612 (and modifications thereof). By Riblett's terminology, the "30"means that the maximum thickness occurs at 30% of the wing chord or 18" aft ofthe wing leading edge for the 60" chord Piet wing. The "-12" indicates thatthe wing depth (thickness) is 12% of the chord, or 7.2". The stock FC-10 airfoilis about an inch less deep than the 612 and it also has undercamber, whichthe Riblett does not. Other considerations aside, including performance, a deeperspar can carry the same loads with lighter construction than a shorter one...if properly engineered. A thicker wing section can provide more room forlarger fuel tanks or a baggage compartment, if that's a consideration.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 power, 72x36 Culver propRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Just to add to this discussion, a bit about the Riblett airfoil nomenclature. I'm no expert on the subject, but my understanding is that the "612" is Riblett'sGA30-612 (and modifications thereof). By Riblett's terminology, the "30"means that the maximum thickness occurs at 30% of the wing chord or 18" aft ofthe wing leading edge for the 60" chord Piet wing. The "-12" indicates thatthe wing depth (thickness) is 12% of the chord, or 7.2". The stock FC-10 airfoilis about an inch less deep than the 612 and it also has undercamber, whichthe Riblett does not. Other considerations aside, including performance, a deeperspar can carry the same loads with lighter construction than a shorter one...if properly engineered. A thicker wing section can provide more room forlarger fuel tanks or a baggage compartment, if that's a consideration.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 power, 72x36 Culver propRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________