Original Posted By: "Dave'sPiet"
https://www.google.ca/search?q=Gas+weld ... aLgCAClif1. There are two kinds of people in this world:1)Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data Where can I find these videos on gas welding? Joe R Just watch these videos and some others that relate to gas welding 4130 tubing for a start ... Gas welding the Legal Eagle Ultralight #1 of 6. WF2________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
That is some very nice craftsmanship... I'm curious- what engine do you plan onrunning? The wood fairings on the cabanes is something I have not seen before-could you post more pictures of your process with those? I really like them.DavidRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
That is some very nice craftsmanship... I'm curious- what engine do you plan onrunning? The wood fairings on the cabanes is something I have not seen before-could you post more pictures of your process with those? I really like them.DavidRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Original Posted By: "Boatright, Jeffrey"
I like it. Can't wait to see more. It reminds me of the Corbin Ace I like somuch. Do the red seat belts give away your interior color choice? The old outriggerlanding gear would look really cool too. Or tall thin tires with largewheel pants like the old racers had. You opened up a whole bunch of ideas.Just amazing Paul.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
I like it. Can't wait to see more. It reminds me of the Corbin Ace I like somuch. Do the red seat belts give away your interior color choice? The old outriggerlanding gear would look really cool too. Or tall thin tires with largewheel pants like the old racers had. You opened up a whole bunch of ideas.Just amazing Paul.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Original Posted By: Ray Krause
The woodwork is just absolutely amazing! Wish I had the skills and patience thatPaul has. I really like the cabane struts and the wide center section, very"rakish" , speedy looking. Thanks for sharing,Ray KrauseBuilding a SkyScoutSent from my iPad> On Mar 9, 2016, at 1:51 PM, AircamperN11MS wrote:> > > I like it. Can't wait to see more. It reminds me of the Corbin Ace I like somuch. Do the red seat belts give away your interior color choice? The oldoutrigger landing gear would look really cool too. Or tall thin tires with largewheel pants like the old racers had. You opened up a whole bunch of ideas.> > Just amazing Paul.> > --------> Scott Liefeld> Flying N11MS since March 1972> Steel Tube> C-85-12> Wire Wheels> Brodhead in 1996> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 607#453607> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
The woodwork is just absolutely amazing! Wish I had the skills and patience thatPaul has. I really like the cabane struts and the wide center section, very"rakish" , speedy looking. Thanks for sharing,Ray KrauseBuilding a SkyScoutSent from my iPad> On Mar 9, 2016, at 1:51 PM, AircamperN11MS wrote:> > > I like it. Can't wait to see more. It reminds me of the Corbin Ace I like somuch. Do the red seat belts give away your interior color choice? The oldoutrigger landing gear would look really cool too. Or tall thin tires with largewheel pants like the old racers had. You opened up a whole bunch of ideas.> > Just amazing Paul.> > --------> Scott Liefeld> Flying N11MS since March 1972> Steel Tube> C-85-12> Wire Wheels> Brodhead in 1996> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 607#453607> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Original Posted By: "Dave'sPiet"
Mail=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97Jeffrey H. Boatright, PhD, FARVOProfessor of OphthalmologyEmory University School of MedicineSent from an iPad with a spelling problemOn Mar 9, 2016, at 5:21 PM, "Jack" > wrote:Jeff was the newsletter via email or mail I have not received it. Would certainly like to get it ASAP John if you can please email, thanks so much bye.JackSent from my iPhoneOn Mar 9, 2016, at 3:51 PM, Boatright, Jeffrey > wrote:Hi John,Great issue of the BPA Newsletter, and fine tribute to Dick.Thanks,Jeff________________________________This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use ofthe intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privilegedinformation. If the reader of this message is not the intendedrecipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distributionor copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictlyprohibited.If you have received this message in error, please contactthe sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of theoriginal message (including attachments).________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Mail=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97Jeffrey H. Boatright, PhD, FARVOProfessor of OphthalmologyEmory University School of MedicineSent from an iPad with a spelling problemOn Mar 9, 2016, at 5:21 PM, "Jack" > wrote:Jeff was the newsletter via email or mail I have not received it. Would certainly like to get it ASAP John if you can please email, thanks so much bye.JackSent from my iPhoneOn Mar 9, 2016, at 3:51 PM, Boatright, Jeffrey > wrote:Hi John,Great issue of the BPA Newsletter, and fine tribute to Dick.Thanks,Jeff________________________________This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use ofthe intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privilegedinformation. If the reader of this message is not the intendedrecipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distributionor copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictlyprohibited.If you have received this message in error, please contactthe sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of theoriginal message (including attachments).________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Original Posted By: "Bill Church"
Bill,It sounds to me like your Bragging again.
Is the Canadian postal service justthat much better than the one in the USA? I've been waiting for my issue as well. I was getting worried that my subscriptionran out. Waiting and watching for the postal folks in So CA. Like Steve Martin and thephone book scene.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Bill,It sounds to me like your Bragging again.
Is the Canadian postal service justthat much better than the one in the USA? I've been waiting for my issue as well. I was getting worried that my subscriptionran out. Waiting and watching for the postal folks in So CA. Like Steve Martin and thephone book scene.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet BuildOriginal Posted By: "Barry Davis"
Paul,Why in the world would you... just kidding.Very nice woodwork.Just be careful about watching the weight.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Paul,Why in the world would you... just kidding.Very nice woodwork.Just be careful about watching the weight.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Original Posted By: "braywood"
The engine in this link is unidentified as to exact type, but from the pics, it'sa small Continental, and might be worth bidding on.Here's the link:http://www.ebay.com/itm/222019966172?_t ... -------Tom KreinerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
The engine in this link is unidentified as to exact type, but from the pics, it'sa small Continental, and might be worth bidding on.Here's the link:http://www.ebay.com/itm/222019966172?_t ... -------Tom KreinerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Pietenpol-List: Re: Small Continental on EBAY
Original Posted By: "taildrags"
Gorgeous!! I am very jealous of your workmanship!! Keep us posted on progress!!MarkRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Small Continental on EBAY
Gorgeous!! I am very jealous of your workmanship!! Keep us posted on progress!!MarkRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Small Continental on EBAY
Pietenpol-List: Re: Small Continental on EBAY
Original Posted By: "taildrags"
Definitely a small Continental with tapered shaft, no data plate, and without aphoto of the rear of the engine it's hard to tell all the details. If what theseller is saying is correct, that it came out of a Piper, it could be an A65-8out of a Cub, maybe an A75, it does have two sets of plugs so it would definitelyhave had dual magnetos. He's advertising it for $1100 with free shipping.It would probably be worth that just in parts/cores unless it's trashedinside.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Small Continental on EBAY
Definitely a small Continental with tapered shaft, no data plate, and without aphoto of the rear of the engine it's hard to tell all the details. If what theseller is saying is correct, that it came out of a Piper, it could be an A65-8out of a Cub, maybe an A75, it does have two sets of plugs so it would definitelyhave had dual magnetos. He's advertising it for $1100 with free shipping.It would probably be worth that just in parts/cores unless it's trashedinside.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Small Continental on EBAY
Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
Hi Tony,Sorry for a very slow reply, I have enough trouble finding time to make anythingfor myself let alone anyone else so cannot help with your request unfortunately.Thank you for the interest though!RegardsEnglish JohnnyStill building the wings--------The only way is UPRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Hi Tony,Sorry for a very slow reply, I have enough trouble finding time to make anythingfor myself let alone anyone else so cannot help with your request unfortunately.Thank you for the interest though!RegardsEnglish JohnnyStill building the wings--------The only way is UPRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
RE: Pietenpol-List: Pauls Piet Build
Original Posted By: "Fairfield, Mike"
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Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Original Posted By: "PatrickW"
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Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
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Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Original Posted By: Marcus Zechini
Paul,I just spotted something you should address before you break your rudder. I seeyou have rudder peddles for the rear cockpit. You should add a balance cableto the system to prevent the chance of putting pressure on both rudder hornsat the same time. Imagine pushing both rudder peddles at the same time as ifapplying toe brakes. The rudder horns can't take that type of load and willpull away from the rudder's front spar. The easy way is to attach a cable to each of the rear rudder peddles connectingthe two together. The cable should be routed under the front seat and to therear of the seat. In a "U" shape while looking from above. So that if you pushforward on the left peddle, the right one will move to the rear. I hope I have explain it well enough. The rudder bar does not require the balancecable since the pilot cannot push forward on both sides at the same time.Respectfully,--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 13:10:27 -0400Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Paul,I just spotted something you should address before you break your rudder. I seeyou have rudder peddles for the rear cockpit. You should add a balance cableto the system to prevent the chance of putting pressure on both rudder hornsat the same time. Imagine pushing both rudder peddles at the same time as ifapplying toe brakes. The rudder horns can't take that type of load and willpull away from the rudder's front spar. The easy way is to attach a cable to each of the rear rudder peddles connectingthe two together. The cable should be routed under the front seat and to therear of the seat. In a "U" shape while looking from above. So that if you pushforward on the left peddle, the right one will move to the rear. I hope I have explain it well enough. The rudder bar does not require the balancecable since the pilot cannot push forward on both sides at the same time.Respectfully,--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 13:10:27 -0400Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Hah! By the way, over the winter I finally made a new rudder bar pivot and installed it with two braces. The field repair was working fine, but the new pivot works better. I brazed the pivot bolt per the plans this time.I also made new diagonal cabane struts and installed them. The originals had turnbuckles in order to make adjustments to the wing for C.G. purposes and would probably not have survived a crash if the plane turned turtle, which means the pilot would likely not survive. The new struts are much stronger.William Wynne should be proud. He had commented years ago that my diagonals would never withstand a crash. I agreed with him, but it took me a few years to get around to it.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia
Hah! By the way, over the winter I finally made a new rudder bar pivot and installed it with two braces. The field repair was working fine, but the new pivot works better. I brazed the pivot bolt per the plans this time.I also made new diagonal cabane struts and installed them. The originals had turnbuckles in order to make adjustments to the wing for C.G. purposes and would probably not have survived a crash if the plane turned turtle, which means the pilot would likely not survive. The new struts are much stronger.William Wynne should be proud. He had commented years ago that my diagonals would never withstand a crash. I agreed with him, but it took me a few years to get around to it.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Original Posted By:> owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li
Jack, I'm very close to the stage of fabricating the diagonals. Yours look great! What kind of streamlined material did you use? Scott Knowlton Sent from my iPhone> On Mar 22, 2016, at 2:54 PM, Jack Philips wrote:> > Hah! By the way, over the winter I finally made a new rudder bar pivot and installed it with two braces. The field repair was working fine, but the new pivot works better. I brazed the pivot bolt per the plans this time.> > I also made new diagonal cabane struts and installed them. The originals had turnbuckles in order to make adjustments to the wing for C.G. purposes and would probably not have survived a crash if the plane turned turtle, which means the pilot would likely not survive. The new struts are much stronger.> > > > William Wynne should be proud. He had commented years ago that my diagonals would never withstand a crash. I agreed with him, but it took me a few years to get around to it.> > Jack Phillips> NX899JP> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia> > >
Jack, I'm very close to the stage of fabricating the diagonals. Yours look great! What kind of streamlined material did you use? Scott Knowlton Sent from my iPhone> On Mar 22, 2016, at 2:54 PM, Jack Philips wrote:> > Hah! By the way, over the winter I finally made a new rudder bar pivot and installed it with two braces. The field repair was working fine, but the new pivot works better. I brazed the pivot bolt per the plans this time.> > I also made new diagonal cabane struts and installed them. The originals had turnbuckles in order to make adjustments to the wing for C.G. purposes and would probably not have survived a crash if the plane turned turtle, which means the pilot would likely not survive. The new struts are much stronger.> > > > William Wynne should be proud. He had commented years ago that my diagonals would never withstand a crash. I agreed with him, but it took me a few years to get around to it.> > Jack Phillips> NX899JP> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia> > >
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Original Posted By: Marcus Zechini
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
It is streamlined steel (4130) tubing. I'm not sure what size but I'llmeasure it tomorrow.Jack Phillips NX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia
It is streamlined steel (4130) tubing. I'm not sure what size but I'llmeasure it tomorrow.Jack Phillips NX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia
Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Original Posted By: "Bill Church"
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Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
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Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Original Posted By: "Douwe Blumberg"
Paul,The phenomenon Scott was referring to doesn't have anything to do with the typeof brakes you have (or don't have). What he's talking about is the all too realpossibility of pushing forward on both rudder pedals at the same time - especiallyin situations like those experienced with gusty crosswinds, when therudder gets a workout, or in a moment of panic. Without the balance cable thatScott referred to, there's a very good chance that you'll end up over stressingthe rudder horn at the other ends of the cables that are attached to the pedals.With a rudder bar, as per the plans, it isn't a concern, since the rudder bar doesn'tbend (or at least, it isn't supposed to), so, when you push on one side,the bar pivots in the middle, avoiding having the cable pulling on both sides.It will be a lot easier to add the cable loop now than it will after the planeis finished.Something to seriously think about.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Paul,The phenomenon Scott was referring to doesn't have anything to do with the typeof brakes you have (or don't have). What he's talking about is the all too realpossibility of pushing forward on both rudder pedals at the same time - especiallyin situations like those experienced with gusty crosswinds, when therudder gets a workout, or in a moment of panic. Without the balance cable thatScott referred to, there's a very good chance that you'll end up over stressingthe rudder horn at the other ends of the cables that are attached to the pedals.With a rudder bar, as per the plans, it isn't a concern, since the rudder bar doesn'tbend (or at least, it isn't supposed to), so, when you push on one side,the bar pivots in the middle, avoiding having the cable pulling on both sides.It will be a lot easier to add the cable loop now than it will after the planeis finished.Something to seriously think about.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
With the original rudder bar, the only pressure that can be transferred tothe rudder horn is the pressure intended by the foot to pull the rudderover. IF/when pressure is placed on both sides of the bar, the pivot pointtakes the stress and it isn't transferred to the horn. If rudder pedals areinstalled instead of the bar, one could press on both pedals and thosestresses to straight to the rudder horn, not good. Pressure from both feethappens more than one would expect. As mentioned, during rough landings, weoften inadvertently push both sides. Even cruising around, I find both feetputting some pressure on the bar. IF replacing the rudder bar with pedals, there absolutely must be some sortof cable system as mentioned to eliminate this issue.Another option is to use a rudder bar up front and run hook your back pedalsto the bar and let the bar's pivot point take the stress.I feel this is a must.Douwe________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
With the original rudder bar, the only pressure that can be transferred tothe rudder horn is the pressure intended by the foot to pull the rudderover. IF/when pressure is placed on both sides of the bar, the pivot pointtakes the stress and it isn't transferred to the horn. If rudder pedals areinstalled instead of the bar, one could press on both pedals and thosestresses to straight to the rudder horn, not good. Pressure from both feethappens more than one would expect. As mentioned, during rough landings, weoften inadvertently push both sides. Even cruising around, I find both feetputting some pressure on the bar. IF replacing the rudder bar with pedals, there absolutely must be some sortof cable system as mentioned to eliminate this issue.Another option is to use a rudder bar up front and run hook your back pedalsto the bar and let the bar's pivot point take the stress.I feel this is a must.Douwe________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Original Posted By: "Jack Philips"
Paul,Even if you just put pressure on both pedals at the same time to re-arrange yourbutt in the seat, you could break the rudder horns from the structure. It'snot that it can happen but more of it WILL happen should you not install thecables. It's just a matter of time. I have seen it happen. The other way toaddress it is to put a slave horn in the fuselage somewhere behind the pilotsseat but this only adds to the tail heavy/complexity issues most have.Very Highly recommended.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Paul,Even if you just put pressure on both pedals at the same time to re-arrange yourbutt in the seat, you could break the rudder horns from the structure. It'snot that it can happen but more of it WILL happen should you not install thecables. It's just a matter of time. I have seen it happen. The other way toaddress it is to put a slave horn in the fuselage somewhere behind the pilotsseat but this only adds to the tail heavy/complexity issues most have.Very Highly recommended.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
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Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Douwe (and Paul),Putting a rudder bar in the front cockpit only alleviates the potentialproblem of putting tension on both rudder horns if pushrods are used toconnect the rear rudder pedals to the front rudder bar. If cables andsprings are used, the rear pedals can still both be pushed and put tensionon both rudder horns. The crossover cable suggested by Scott is a bettersolution, if for some reason rudder pedals simply have to be used in therear cockpit. This seems like another area where one simple change from theoriginal, time-tested design causes other changes to ripple through theproject, adding weight and complication. SIMPLICATE AND ADD LIGHTNESS!As Marcus Zechinni hinted, I broke the rudder bar pivot bolt in mine lastspring, which definitely shows that it is possible to put a good deal ofstress on the pedals/bar. It turned out that the bolt broke due to crackscaused by welding without removing the cadmium plating, with Hydrogenembrittlement the likely culprit. I brazed the new one (after removing thecad plating with muriatic acid) per the plans.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia
Douwe (and Paul),Putting a rudder bar in the front cockpit only alleviates the potentialproblem of putting tension on both rudder horns if pushrods are used toconnect the rear rudder pedals to the front rudder bar. If cables andsprings are used, the rear pedals can still both be pushed and put tensionon both rudder horns. The crossover cable suggested by Scott is a bettersolution, if for some reason rudder pedals simply have to be used in therear cockpit. This seems like another area where one simple change from theoriginal, time-tested design causes other changes to ripple through theproject, adding weight and complication. SIMPLICATE AND ADD LIGHTNESS!As Marcus Zechinni hinted, I broke the rudder bar pivot bolt in mine lastspring, which definitely shows that it is possible to put a good deal ofstress on the pedals/bar. It turned out that the bolt broke due to crackscaused by welding without removing the cadmium plating, with Hydrogenembrittlement the likely culprit. I brazed the new one (after removing thecad plating with muriatic acid) per the plans.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Original Posted By: Steven Dortch
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RE: Pietenpol-List: paul's build
Original Posted By: Steven Dortch
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RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Scott, I just measured the cabane diagonal struts and they are made ofstreamlined 4130 steel tubing with a major axis of 1.349", minor axis .571",wall thickness .049.Here are some pictures showing their construction:First step was to accurately locate the holes to match the adjustablediagonals which they are to replace.Then, steel tubing was inserted in the holes.The tubes were then welded in place and cut to length.Then the ends of the struts were cut and trimmed to fit the existingfittings. This is the top end of the diagonal, which has to fit over a tabwelded to the front of the forward Cabane strut.Here is the bottom end of the diagonal. Note the length of tubing requiredto fill the space between the top engine mounts, where the diagonal strutattaches.To see how I made my forward cabane struts to attach the diagonals, look atthe next two pictures:This is the top of the forward cabane strut. The slotted tab fits into aslot at the front of the strut and is "pinned" by the tube which runsthrough the strut, then the whole assembly is welded together. Simple,lightweight and strong.Here you can see how the tube pins the tab for the diagonal.Here is the final assembly, installed on the airplane:Sorry to bore you with so many pictures, but it occurred to me that if youare about to build your cabane struts this might be of interest to you.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia
Scott, I just measured the cabane diagonal struts and they are made ofstreamlined 4130 steel tubing with a major axis of 1.349", minor axis .571",wall thickness .049.Here are some pictures showing their construction:First step was to accurately locate the holes to match the adjustablediagonals which they are to replace.Then, steel tubing was inserted in the holes.The tubes were then welded in place and cut to length.Then the ends of the struts were cut and trimmed to fit the existingfittings. This is the top end of the diagonal, which has to fit over a tabwelded to the front of the forward Cabane strut.Here is the bottom end of the diagonal. Note the length of tubing requiredto fill the space between the top engine mounts, where the diagonal strutattaches.To see how I made my forward cabane struts to attach the diagonals, look atthe next two pictures:This is the top of the forward cabane strut. The slotted tab fits into aslot at the front of the strut and is "pinned" by the tube which runsthrough the strut, then the whole assembly is welded together. Simple,lightweight and strong.Here you can see how the tube pins the tab for the diagonal.Here is the final assembly, installed on the airplane:Sorry to bore you with so many pictures, but it occurred to me that if youare about to build your cabane struts this might be of interest to you.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Original Posted By: Scott Knowlton
1965 GN-1 plans Do show a diagonal brace.--------Curt MerdanFlower Mound, TXRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/imag ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
1965 GN-1 plans Do show a diagonal brace.--------Curt MerdanFlower Mound, TXRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/imag ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Original Posted By: Steven Dortch
Steve,The balance cable needs to run backwards, then turn around 180 degrees, back tothe other rudder pedal. You will need to use pulleys for directional changeslike that - not just a phenolic block.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 16:02:37 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Steve,The balance cable needs to run backwards, then turn around 180 degrees, back tothe other rudder pedal. You will need to use pulleys for directional changeslike that - not just a phenolic block.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 16:02:37 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Re: Pietenpol-List: paul's build
Original Posted By: Steven Dortch
Steve,Yeah, I guess I am too serious and nitpicky. That happens to one after being a high school teacher for too many years.I sure had fun with my Piet, though. It was a great sportplane, but the climate here in central Alberta, Canada, is suitablefor open cockpit flying only about five months of the year. The other seven months were not much fun and I put only about 860 hours on it because I always had other more comfortable airplanes to fly in winter.BTW, I had rudder pedals for the rear seat and a rudder bar for the front seat, connected by cables. There never was a problem with this setup. However, the idea of using a balance cable to avoid overstressing the rudder horn is a good one.Graham
Steve,Yeah, I guess I am too serious and nitpicky. That happens to one after being a high school teacher for too many years.I sure had fun with my Piet, though. It was a great sportplane, but the climate here in central Alberta, Canada, is suitablefor open cockpit flying only about five months of the year. The other seven months were not much fun and I put only about 860 hours on it because I always had other more comfortable airplanes to fly in winter.BTW, I had rudder pedals for the rear seat and a rudder bar for the front seat, connected by cables. There never was a problem with this setup. However, the idea of using a balance cable to avoid overstressing the rudder horn is a good one.Graham
Re: Pietenpol-List: paul's build
Original Posted By: Steven Dortch
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: paul's build
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: paul's build
Re: Pietenpol-List: paul's build
Original Posted By: Steven Dortch
Steve,Oh, I did fly it on skis! In fact, the initial test flight November 15, 1970 was done with skis. I used to fly it at least once every month of the year and, in winter, was so heavily dressed that the cockpit was a tight fit=94even though I had made the fuselage two inches wider in the cockpit area than the plans specified. It was an excellent skiplane, but had a lousy heater. In later years, I rarely flew it during the winter because I wasn=99t as tough as I once was (just as crazy, though). I toyed with the idea of building a canopy for the rear cockpit, but never got around to doing so. However, nobody was interested in winter flying with me so I made a cover for the front pit and that helped some.I remember reading about the fellow in Texas who flew his on skis and rescued some blizzard-bound people. He must have been a tough and resourceful individual!Cheers,Graham
Steve,Oh, I did fly it on skis! In fact, the initial test flight November 15, 1970 was done with skis. I used to fly it at least once every month of the year and, in winter, was so heavily dressed that the cockpit was a tight fit=94even though I had made the fuselage two inches wider in the cockpit area than the plans specified. It was an excellent skiplane, but had a lousy heater. In later years, I rarely flew it during the winter because I wasn=99t as tough as I once was (just as crazy, though). I toyed with the idea of building a canopy for the rear cockpit, but never got around to doing so. However, nobody was interested in winter flying with me so I made a cover for the front pit and that helped some.I remember reading about the fellow in Texas who flew his on skis and rescued some blizzard-bound people. He must have been a tough and resourceful individual!Cheers,Graham
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Original Posted By: Marcus Zechini
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Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Original Posted By: "jarheadpilot82"
Paul,It doesn't necessarily need to be under the passenger seat. You could put it behindthe pilots seat and tie the rudder cables together there. Then you wouldnot even see them when looking in the cockpits. As clean as your plane is Ithink I would not want to see the extra stuff in the cockpit when looking at it.Again, your plane is top notch.I attached a sketch of a way to accomplish the task and still hide it from view.Good luck with it Sir,--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/slaf ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Paul,It doesn't necessarily need to be under the passenger seat. You could put it behindthe pilots seat and tie the rudder cables together there. Then you wouldnot even see them when looking in the cockpits. As clean as your plane is Ithink I would not want to see the extra stuff in the cockpit when looking at it.Again, your plane is top notch.I attached a sketch of a way to accomplish the task and still hide it from view.Good luck with it Sir,--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/slaf ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Original Posted By: "jarheadpilot82"
Paul,Nice work. The only question I have is about vertical stab offset. Here is a linkto an earlier discussion of the topic, so you will understand what I am gettingat-http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... rtoffsetIt appears that you may have some offset already built in, but you do not havethe ability to adjust your vertical stabilizer (see screenshot). Did you alreadyput in some offset, and, if so, how much? How do you plan to adjust it if itis too much/not enough?Like I said, really nice work. Just that question.--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GARead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/scre ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Paul,Nice work. The only question I have is about vertical stab offset. Here is a linkto an earlier discussion of the topic, so you will understand what I am gettingat-http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... rtoffsetIt appears that you may have some offset already built in, but you do not havethe ability to adjust your vertical stabilizer (see screenshot). Did you alreadyput in some offset, and, if so, how much? How do you plan to adjust it if itis too much/not enough?Like I said, really nice work. Just that question.--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GARead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/scre ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Original Posted By: "taildrags"
Paul,Thanks for the explanation. Your woodworking skills make me look like piker. I think you are the cabinet makeron the job site and I am just the framer's assistant, not even the framer.--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GARead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Paul,Thanks for the explanation. Your woodworking skills make me look like piker. I think you are the cabinet makeron the job site and I am just the framer's assistant, not even the framer.--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GARead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
Scott: nice little sketch of how to do the run-around loop. If a builder installsa belly access panel like Corky did on 41CC, and if the run-around loop isrun either behind the pilot's seat or just aft of the belly panel, it will makeinspection and installation of the run-around cable and pulleys much easier.I know the panel really helps when working on or inspecting the elevator bellcrankback there.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Scott: nice little sketch of how to do the run-around loop. If a builder installsa belly access panel like Corky did on 41CC, and if the run-around loop isrun either behind the pilot's seat or just aft of the belly panel, it will makeinspection and installation of the run-around cable and pulleys much easier.I know the panel really helps when working on or inspecting the elevator bellcrankback there.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
Oscar, All your points are good ones too. Easy access is always a good thing. Especiallyif you can't see it from the top or sides of the plane. Thank you,--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Oscar, All your points are good ones too. Easy access is always a good thing. Especiallyif you can't see it from the top or sides of the plane. Thank you,--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Original Posted By: Ray Krause
Paul,I have seen it bend similar to your description and I have seen the spar whereit is attached incur damage as well. The french valley piet received damage afterthey converted to rudder peddles. When I made the first flight on that planit had a rudder bar. Those guys made a heavier control horn to replace thebent one. I think the cable is the best and easiest way to prevent damage.On a side note. I have 4130 steel tail surfaces and rudder peddles without anybalance cable. Mine has been fine for 44 years now. No brakes to push on either.The wood structure is what concerns me when looking at peoples projects. BTW, I am an EAA Tech Counselor.Cheers,--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Paul,I have seen it bend similar to your description and I have seen the spar whereit is attached incur damage as well. The french valley piet received damage afterthey converted to rudder peddles. When I made the first flight on that planit had a rudder bar. Those guys made a heavier control horn to replace thebent one. I think the cable is the best and easiest way to prevent damage.On a side note. I have 4130 steel tail surfaces and rudder peddles without anybalance cable. Mine has been fine for 44 years now. No brakes to push on either.The wood structure is what concerns me when looking at peoples projects. BTW, I am an EAA Tech Counselor.Cheers,--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
Scott,Since you have no brakes, how do you do a run up? Do you use the "Whoa Stick" regularly?How is it anchored to the fuselage? You have a steel tube fuselage,right? Guess the would make the "Whoa Stick" easier to install.I have installed brakes, but they are just 6" Azusa drum brakes that "might" holdthe 19" wheels for a modest runup? To be seen.Lots of questions!Thanks,Ray KrauseSent from my iPad> On Mar 25, 2016, at 2:13 PM, AircamperN11MS wrote:> > > Paul,> > I have seen it bend similar to your description and I have seen the spar whereit is attached incur damage as well. The french valley piet received damageafter they converted to rudder peddles. When I made the first flight on thatplan it had a rudder bar. Those guys made a heavier control horn to replacethe bent one. I think the cable is the best and easiest way to prevent damage.> > On a side note. I have 4130 steel tail surfaces and rudder peddles without anybalance cable. Mine has been fine for 44 years now. No brakes to push on either.> > The wood structure is what concerns me when looking at peoples projects. > > BTW, I am an EAA Tech Counselor.> > Cheers,> > --------> Scott Liefeld> Flying N11MS since March 1972> Steel Tube> C-85-12> Wire Wheels> Brodhead in 1996> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 147#454147> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Scott,Since you have no brakes, how do you do a run up? Do you use the "Whoa Stick" regularly?How is it anchored to the fuselage? You have a steel tube fuselage,right? Guess the would make the "Whoa Stick" easier to install.I have installed brakes, but they are just 6" Azusa drum brakes that "might" holdthe 19" wheels for a modest runup? To be seen.Lots of questions!Thanks,Ray KrauseSent from my iPad> On Mar 25, 2016, at 2:13 PM, AircamperN11MS wrote:> > > Paul,> > I have seen it bend similar to your description and I have seen the spar whereit is attached incur damage as well. The french valley piet received damageafter they converted to rudder peddles. When I made the first flight on thatplan it had a rudder bar. Those guys made a heavier control horn to replacethe bent one. I think the cable is the best and easiest way to prevent damage.> > On a side note. I have 4130 steel tail surfaces and rudder peddles without anybalance cable. Mine has been fine for 44 years now. No brakes to push on either.> > The wood structure is what concerns me when looking at peoples projects. > > BTW, I am an EAA Tech Counselor.> > Cheers,> > --------> Scott Liefeld> Flying N11MS since March 1972> Steel Tube> C-85-12> Wire Wheels> Brodhead in 1996> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 147#454147> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
Ray,Let's see, I rarely use the Whoa Stick. Only if the wind is blowing me somewhereI don't want to be. I will check my mags during taxi although I can hold theplane with the Whoa Stick for a 1200RPM run up. I keep the air pressure verylow in my tires to help slow me after landing and during taxi. Ever try to pusha car with flat tires? The stick is attached to the torque tube for my elevatorcontrols. I will show you how the stick is attached in June.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Ray,Let's see, I rarely use the Whoa Stick. Only if the wind is blowing me somewhereI don't want to be. I will check my mags during taxi although I can hold theplane with the Whoa Stick for a 1200RPM run up. I keep the air pressure verylow in my tires to help slow me after landing and during taxi. Ever try to pusha car with flat tires? The stick is attached to the torque tube for my elevatorcontrols. I will show you how the stick is attached in June.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Original Posted By: Jim Boyer
Your welcome Paul. I like that we all help each other. It keeps us safe and hopefullyprevents doing the work more than one time. Cheers,--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2016 13:51:17 +0000 (UTC)
Your welcome Paul. I like that we all help each other. It keeps us safe and hopefullyprevents doing the work more than one time. Cheers,--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2016 13:51:17 +0000 (UTC)
Pietenpol-List: Re: First fight of the season
Original Posted By: "taildrags"
Just got in the first flight of the season this afternoon. Absolutelygorgeous early spring day. Shook her out for thirty minutes all's good.Didn't feel rusty at all, even with a little crosswind on the asphalt.Keep building, it's worth it!!!Happy Resurrection day!!Douwe________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: First fight of the season
Just got in the first flight of the season this afternoon. Absolutelygorgeous early spring day. Shook her out for thirty minutes all's good.Didn't feel rusty at all, even with a little crosswind on the asphalt.Keep building, it's worth it!!!Happy Resurrection day!!Douwe________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: First fight of the season
Original Posted By: Ray Krause
Sure looks like a lovely day in the photographs there! We're still in the coldand cloudy time just before spring kicks in and gets going. Won't be long now!As soon as I can get Scout primed up and flying, I'll check the angle of thelongerons in level flight.And a blessed Resurrection Sunday to you too, Douwe! Thanks for posting.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Sure looks like a lovely day in the photographs there! We're still in the coldand cloudy time just before spring kicks in and gets going. Won't be long now!As soon as I can get Scout primed up and flying, I'll check the angle of thelongerons in level flight.And a blessed Resurrection Sunday to you too, Douwe! Thanks for posting.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Original Posted By: Ray Krause
Jim,They are rounded off, but I did not do it. My friend, Merle did it with his milling machine. I had to make "U" joints to attach them to the wing because the wing is not lined up with the bottom attach points on the fuselage. I can get a picture of these, if you want. Merle could have made fancy ones on the milling machine, but Bernard would have frowned on that!You only need the "U" joints if the wing is not vertical on the cabanes, mine are slanted back 5.5".I only have to paint one more side of the left wing panel, should finish Tuesday. The clear coat did not work out on the fabric because the cement turned dark brown with time. It looked like shit! All the clear coated fabric is now BRIGHT yellow...with red trim! If they don't see me coming, it's their fault!My smoke system is done, but only a 1 gallon tank, for now.Sent from my iPad> On Mar 26, 2016, at 6:51 AM, Jim Boyer wrote:> > Hi Ray, I have a question about your wing strut aluminium fittings. Where they bolt to the wing did you leave them square at that end or did you round them off? If rounded them off how did you round them.> Thanks, just doing lots of little stuff waiting for less humidity to finish painting.> Jim B.________________________________________________________________________________
Jim,They are rounded off, but I did not do it. My friend, Merle did it with his milling machine. I had to make "U" joints to attach them to the wing because the wing is not lined up with the bottom attach points on the fuselage. I can get a picture of these, if you want. Merle could have made fancy ones on the milling machine, but Bernard would have frowned on that!You only need the "U" joints if the wing is not vertical on the cabanes, mine are slanted back 5.5".I only have to paint one more side of the left wing panel, should finish Tuesday. The clear coat did not work out on the fabric because the cement turned dark brown with time. It looked like shit! All the clear coated fabric is now BRIGHT yellow...with red trim! If they don't see me coming, it's their fault!My smoke system is done, but only a 1 gallon tank, for now.Sent from my iPad> On Mar 26, 2016, at 6:51 AM, Jim Boyer wrote:> > Hi Ray, I have a question about your wing strut aluminium fittings. Where they bolt to the wing did you leave them square at that end or did you round them off? If rounded them off how did you round them.> Thanks, just doing lots of little stuff waiting for less humidity to finish painting.> Jim B.________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: First fight of the season
Original Posted By: "Rock-a-Wing"
Beautiful! I could be flying this Summer...maybe!Ray KrauseBuilding SkyScoutSent from my iPad> On Mar 26, 2016, at 6:40 PM, Douwe Blumberg wrote:> > Just got in the first flight of the season this afternoon. Absolutely> gorgeous early spring day. Shook her out for thirty minutes all's good.> Didn't feel rusty at all, even with a little crosswind on the asphalt.> > Keep building, it's worth it!!!> > Happy Resurrection day!!> > Douwe> > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: First fight of the season
Beautiful! I could be flying this Summer...maybe!Ray KrauseBuilding SkyScoutSent from my iPad> On Mar 26, 2016, at 6:40 PM, Douwe Blumberg wrote:> > Just got in the first flight of the season this afternoon. Absolutely> gorgeous early spring day. Shook her out for thirty minutes all's good.> Didn't feel rusty at all, even with a little crosswind on the asphalt.> > Keep building, it's worth it!!!> > Happy Resurrection day!!> > Douwe> > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: First fight of the season
Original Posted By: Oscar Zuniga
Love the color scheme!Happy Resurrection day, indeed!! John in PittsburghRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Love the color scheme!Happy Resurrection day, indeed!! John in PittsburghRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Original Posted By: Steven Dortch
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Original Posted By: Ray Krause
Steve;Unless I'm mistaken, those aluminum pieces of Ray's are just the strut ends, notthe struts themselves. If I recall correctly, those aluminum square stock partsslide up into the inside of Carlson aluminum streamline tube struts and providea way to attach the upper ends of the struts to the wing attach fittings(with bolts), and the lower ends of the struts to the lower attach points (withadjustable fork ends). You can see the Carlson strut material here:http://www.carlsonaircraft.com/struts.htmlNote that they have small, large, heavy duty, and jury strut material as well asstandard round and square shapes as well.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Steve;Unless I'm mistaken, those aluminum pieces of Ray's are just the strut ends, notthe struts themselves. If I recall correctly, those aluminum square stock partsslide up into the inside of Carlson aluminum streamline tube struts and providea way to attach the upper ends of the struts to the wing attach fittings(with bolts), and the lower ends of the struts to the lower attach points (withadjustable fork ends). You can see the Carlson strut material here:http://www.carlsonaircraft.com/struts.htmlNote that they have small, large, heavy duty, and jury strut material as well asstandard round and square shapes as well.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: First fight of the season
Original Posted By: "Charles N. Campbell"
Oscar and Steve,That is correct. Those are my set of strut ends, made by my very good friend, MerleReppert. As Oscar said, they fit into the ends of the Carlson aluminum struts...attachedby two AN-3 bolts each.I thought I was responding only to Jim with a private email, did not know everyoneon the Forum would receive it!Thanks,Ray KrauseSent from my iPad> On Mar 27, 2016, at 8:29 PM, taildrags wrote:> > > Steve;> > Unless I'm mistaken, those aluminum pieces of Ray's are just the strut ends,not the struts themselves. If I recall correctly, those aluminum square stockparts slide up into the inside of Carlson aluminum streamline tube struts andprovide a way to attach the upper ends of the struts to the wing attach fittings(with bolts), and the lower ends of the struts to the lower attach points(with adjustable fork ends). You can see the Carlson strut material here:> > http://www.carlsonaircraft.com/struts.html> > Note that they have small, large, heavy duty, and jury strut material as wellas standard round and square shapes as well.> > --------> Oscar Zuniga> Medford, OR> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"> A75 power> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 254#454254> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 06:05:57 -0400Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: First fight of the season
Oscar and Steve,That is correct. Those are my set of strut ends, made by my very good friend, MerleReppert. As Oscar said, they fit into the ends of the Carlson aluminum struts...attachedby two AN-3 bolts each.I thought I was responding only to Jim with a private email, did not know everyoneon the Forum would receive it!Thanks,Ray KrauseSent from my iPad> On Mar 27, 2016, at 8:29 PM, taildrags wrote:> > > Steve;> > Unless I'm mistaken, those aluminum pieces of Ray's are just the strut ends,not the struts themselves. If I recall correctly, those aluminum square stockparts slide up into the inside of Carlson aluminum streamline tube struts andprovide a way to attach the upper ends of the struts to the wing attach fittings(with bolts), and the lower ends of the struts to the lower attach points(with adjustable fork ends). You can see the Carlson strut material here:> > http://www.carlsonaircraft.com/struts.html> > Note that they have small, large, heavy duty, and jury strut material as wellas standard round and square shapes as well.> > --------> Oscar Zuniga> Medford, OR> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"> A75 power> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 254#454254> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 06:05:57 -0400Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: First fight of the season
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pauls Piet Build
Original Posted By: "Greg Cardinal"
Jim,When I assembled my SkyScout prior to covering it, the struts would not fit into the wing fittings on the spars. The strut attach hardware on the spars are parallel with the spars, so the struts have to be within a few degrees of parallel with the spars. That means the lower strut attach points have to be pretty much right under the spar. On the SkyScout, the spars are about 6" behind the lower strut attach points. The struts pivot just fine at the lower attach point with the swivel joint. See photo:Note that the bottom of the cabane struts are lined up with the lower attach points for the struts above the gear brackets. But the top of the cabanes (they attach to the spar) are 6" behind the bottom of the cabanes. Therefore, the upper strut attachment hardware will not fit into the spar brackets!Therefore I made the "U-joints" for the top strut attachments.They fit on the wing like this:You may not have this problem on the AirCamper.I hope my explanation is understandable; it's a little hard to explain!Maybe I could explain it better on the phone,RaySent from my iPad> On Mar 28, 2016, at 11:12 AM, Jim Boyer wrote:> > Hi Ray,> I don't know what you mean by U joints because the wings are slanted back 5.5" My wings are back 4" but everything lines up fine for the threaded fork on one end and the drilled blocks on the top end fastened to the wings ligr strut fittings.> > Are the fuselage or wing fittings different on the Sky Scout?> Thanks very much for the photos; that is really what I needed to see to finish mine.> Cheers,> Jim B.________________________________________________________________________________
Jim,When I assembled my SkyScout prior to covering it, the struts would not fit into the wing fittings on the spars. The strut attach hardware on the spars are parallel with the spars, so the struts have to be within a few degrees of parallel with the spars. That means the lower strut attach points have to be pretty much right under the spar. On the SkyScout, the spars are about 6" behind the lower strut attach points. The struts pivot just fine at the lower attach point with the swivel joint. See photo:Note that the bottom of the cabane struts are lined up with the lower attach points for the struts above the gear brackets. But the top of the cabanes (they attach to the spar) are 6" behind the bottom of the cabanes. Therefore, the upper strut attachment hardware will not fit into the spar brackets!Therefore I made the "U-joints" for the top strut attachments.They fit on the wing like this:You may not have this problem on the AirCamper.I hope my explanation is understandable; it's a little hard to explain!Maybe I could explain it better on the phone,RaySent from my iPad> On Mar 28, 2016, at 11:12 AM, Jim Boyer wrote:> > Hi Ray,> I don't know what you mean by U joints because the wings are slanted back 5.5" My wings are back 4" but everything lines up fine for the threaded fork on one end and the drilled blocks on the top end fastened to the wings ligr strut fittings.> > Are the fuselage or wing fittings different on the Sky Scout?> Thanks very much for the photos; that is really what I needed to see to finish mine.> Cheers,> Jim B.________________________________________________________________________________