Original Posted By: Michael D Cuy
Couple of questions on the rivets attaching the hardware to the beams inthe tail feathers. Are these soft or hard aluminum or steel? How do youupset a rivet 1 1/4 inch long without damaging the wood? Anybody usingbolts?The beast is coming along good, with all wing ribs done, tail feathers done(except for rivets) and the fuselage at the point where I have sat in it!Still having lots of fun!Best regards,-=Ian=-________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Rivets
Pietenpol-List: Re: Rivets
Original Posted By: Ian Holland
>Couple of questions on the rivets attaching the hardware to the beams in>the tail feathers. Are these soft or hard aluminum or steel? How do you>upset a rivet 1 1/4 inch long without damaging the wood? Anybody using>bolts?Ian- I've only seen one or two Piets with rivets in those tail fittings. If you have to nicopress new cables to the fittings, recover, etc it seems thatbolts back there are the thing. On another note, I just finished copying a set of Cub cooling bafflesusing 2024-0 soft aluminum for my 65 Cont. (otherwise check outthe $325 they get for them already fabricated $$$) and now finishingthe cowl out of 2024-T3 (both .025" thickness). After all that woodwork the aluminum work has turned out to be alot of fun. I'm copying Frank Pavliga's Sky Gypsy cowl almost to the tee. Found that white posterboard from the store and masking tape workwell for cutting and fitting around the engine and cockpit areas.Makes a nice template that you can magic marker right onto thealuminum sheet and then trim up to fit well. Mike C. ________________________________________________________________________________
>Couple of questions on the rivets attaching the hardware to the beams in>the tail feathers. Are these soft or hard aluminum or steel? How do you>upset a rivet 1 1/4 inch long without damaging the wood? Anybody using>bolts?Ian- I've only seen one or two Piets with rivets in those tail fittings. If you have to nicopress new cables to the fittings, recover, etc it seems thatbolts back there are the thing. On another note, I just finished copying a set of Cub cooling bafflesusing 2024-0 soft aluminum for my 65 Cont. (otherwise check outthe $325 they get for them already fabricated $$$) and now finishingthe cowl out of 2024-T3 (both .025" thickness). After all that woodwork the aluminum work has turned out to be alot of fun. I'm copying Frank Pavliga's Sky Gypsy cowl almost to the tee. Found that white posterboard from the store and masking tape workwell for cutting and fitting around the engine and cockpit areas.Makes a nice template that you can magic marker right onto thealuminum sheet and then trim up to fit well. Mike C. ________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Rivets
Original Posted By:> Michael D Cuy
> Re: Rivets
Original Posted By: Barry Davis
> > >Couple of questions on the rivets attaching the hardware to the beams in> >the tail feathers. Are these soft or hard aluminum or steel? How do you> >upset a rivet 1 1/4 inch long without damaging the wood? Anybody using> >bolts?> > Ian- I've only seen one or two Piets with rivets in those tail fittings. If > you have to nicopress new cables to the fittings, recover, etc it seemsthat> bolts back there are the thing. > On another note, I just finished copying a set of Cub coolingbaffles> using 2024-0 soft aluminum for my 65 Cont. (otherwise check out> the $325 they get for them already fabricated $$$) and now finishing> the cowl out of 2024-T3 (both .025" thickness). After all that wood> work the aluminum work has turned out to be alot of fun. I'm > copying Frank Pavliga's Sky Gypsy cowl almost to the tee. > Found that white posterboard from the store and masking tape work> well for cutting and fitting around the engine and cockpit areas.> Makes a nice template that you can magic marker right onto the> aluminum sheet and then trim up to fit well. Mike C. > Thanks, Michael. I hadn't thought of having to change cables. I will lookat a combination that will be below the fabric after covering. I alsoappreciate the comments on the aluminum work. I am still working on thehardware and cabanes, but eventually will want to top skin the front of thefuselage.I would like to get my hands on a 65 coninental, but not having much luck.Either too far away, or in grim shape. i am starting to look at alternates,even if I have to put a starter and gear box on it. I am also gearing up to put the wings together, but want to do all themetal work before starting. The wife likes her garage (even in the summer).Thanks again,-=Ian=-________________________________________________________________________________
> > >Couple of questions on the rivets attaching the hardware to the beams in> >the tail feathers. Are these soft or hard aluminum or steel? How do you> >upset a rivet 1 1/4 inch long without damaging the wood? Anybody using> >bolts?> > Ian- I've only seen one or two Piets with rivets in those tail fittings. If > you have to nicopress new cables to the fittings, recover, etc it seemsthat> bolts back there are the thing. > On another note, I just finished copying a set of Cub coolingbaffles> using 2024-0 soft aluminum for my 65 Cont. (otherwise check out> the $325 they get for them already fabricated $$$) and now finishing> the cowl out of 2024-T3 (both .025" thickness). After all that wood> work the aluminum work has turned out to be alot of fun. I'm > copying Frank Pavliga's Sky Gypsy cowl almost to the tee. > Found that white posterboard from the store and masking tape work> well for cutting and fitting around the engine and cockpit areas.> Makes a nice template that you can magic marker right onto the> aluminum sheet and then trim up to fit well. Mike C. > Thanks, Michael. I hadn't thought of having to change cables. I will lookat a combination that will be below the fabric after covering. I alsoappreciate the comments on the aluminum work. I am still working on thehardware and cabanes, but eventually will want to top skin the front of thefuselage.I would like to get my hands on a 65 coninental, but not having much luck.Either too far away, or in grim shape. i am starting to look at alternates,even if I have to put a starter and gear box on it. I am also gearing up to put the wings together, but want to do all themetal work before starting. The wife likes her garage (even in the summer).Thanks again,-=Ian=-________________________________________________________________________________