Original Posted By: dswagler(at)cobkf.ang.af.mil
Hello,My name is Jerry Walker. Married to wife Sandy. Two children; Danielle andIan. 48 Years old. Presently 3rd year pharmacy student (six year program).Previously a purchasing agent and later a contractor (primarilyresidential). Got the children out of the house and can now do what I want.One of those things is perhaps build a Pietenpol. Working on a Doctor ofPharmacy degree is not difficult enough at my age, I needed an additionalchallenge. (grin)Are there any builder/owners of Pietenpols in my area (Corinth, MS is inthe very Northeast corner of the state)? I would like to make theiracquaintance, see their planes, and perhaps solicit their help. Kept this brief as I'm sure you'd rather discuss Pietenpols, as would I. Looking forward to hearing from you,Jerry________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Introduction
Pietenpol-List: Introduction
Original Posted By: jkahn(at)picasso.dehavilland.ca (John Kahn)
My name is Mike List and I am a new member of the Buckeye PietenpolAssociation. Steve kindly added me to the chat group and showed me hisproject last month on a trip to Salt Lake City. Just starting on ourPietenpol and waiting on the first batch of spruce to arrive. Our ship is tobe Corvair powered with wire-spoke wheels. This will be a family projectwith the wife and two young daughters eager to help.A bit of background: private pilot with time in Aeronca L-3, Cessna's,Piper's, ultralight and experimentals, design engineer for Lockheed SkunkWorks, kayak builder, EAA Chapter 49 member, WWI aviation enthusiast and opencockpit lover.Agree with Steve that the Pietenpol is a wonderful ship that lends itself tocustomizing provided the basic structure is not compromised. Stay away fromwood lift struts and do add the jury struts. Lots of fun and the wife (orhusband) knows where you are.Saw Ernie is interested in the Facetmobile by Barnaby Wanifan. The October1984 issue of EAA's Sport Aviation magazine has an excellent article on it,provide me your snail mail address and I'll be glad to send you a copy. Also, there is a Facetmobile homepage athttp://users.aol.com/slicklynne/wanifan.htm (or just search "Facetmobile" or"Wanifan").Regarding the biplane Aerial version of the Piet someone inquired about: Iwas also interested in the biplane and got the conversion plans. Have hearddifferent versions of how it flew, with the original builder admitting thatit tended to hunt nose up and down in flight. A bit of a stability problemcreated by the additional wing with no stagger that would require a bit ofmodification to the design, but not as much as one source has indicated suchas negative stagger and lots of nose ballast. If the ship had been that farout of the stability envelope it should have been unable to recover the firsttime it was stalled. I didn't want to get into that much development effortso stayed with the original Piet configuration.Look forward to high-tech chatting on a 1929 design. The Piet does, afterall, have a fly-by-wire control system! ________________________________________________________________________________
My name is Mike List and I am a new member of the Buckeye PietenpolAssociation. Steve kindly added me to the chat group and showed me hisproject last month on a trip to Salt Lake City. Just starting on ourPietenpol and waiting on the first batch of spruce to arrive. Our ship is tobe Corvair powered with wire-spoke wheels. This will be a family projectwith the wife and two young daughters eager to help.A bit of background: private pilot with time in Aeronca L-3, Cessna's,Piper's, ultralight and experimentals, design engineer for Lockheed SkunkWorks, kayak builder, EAA Chapter 49 member, WWI aviation enthusiast and opencockpit lover.Agree with Steve that the Pietenpol is a wonderful ship that lends itself tocustomizing provided the basic structure is not compromised. Stay away fromwood lift struts and do add the jury struts. Lots of fun and the wife (orhusband) knows where you are.Saw Ernie is interested in the Facetmobile by Barnaby Wanifan. The October1984 issue of EAA's Sport Aviation magazine has an excellent article on it,provide me your snail mail address and I'll be glad to send you a copy. Also, there is a Facetmobile homepage athttp://users.aol.com/slicklynne/wanifan.htm (or just search "Facetmobile" or"Wanifan").Regarding the biplane Aerial version of the Piet someone inquired about: Iwas also interested in the biplane and got the conversion plans. Have hearddifferent versions of how it flew, with the original builder admitting thatit tended to hunt nose up and down in flight. A bit of a stability problemcreated by the additional wing with no stagger that would require a bit ofmodification to the design, but not as much as one source has indicated suchas negative stagger and lots of nose ballast. If the ship had been that farout of the stability envelope it should have been unable to recover the firsttime it was stalled. I didn't want to get into that much development effortso stayed with the original Piet configuration.Look forward to high-tech chatting on a 1929 design. The Piet does, afterall, have a fly-by-wire control system! ________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Introduction
Original Posted By: baileys(at)ktis.net (Robert M. Bailey)
POWRACER(at)aol.com wrote:> > My name is Mike List and I am a new member of the Buckeye Pietenpol> Association. Steve kindly added me to the chat group and showed me his> project last month on a trip to Salt Lake City. Just starting on our> Pietenpol and waiting on the first batch of spruce to arrive. Our ship is to> be Corvair powered with wire-spoke wheels. This will be a family project> with the wife and two young daughters eager to help.> A bit of background: private pilot with time in Aeronca L-3, Cessna's,> Piper's, ultralight and experimentals, design engineer for Lockheed Skunk> Works, kayak builder, EAA Chapter 49 member, WWI aviation enthusiast and open> cockpit lover.> Agree with Steve that the Pietenpol is a wonderful ship that lends itself to> customizing provided the basic structure is not compromised. Stay away from> wood lift struts and do add the jury struts. Lots of fun and the wife (or> husband) knows where you are.> Saw Ernie is interested in the Facetmobile by Barnaby Wanifan. The October> 1984 issue of EAA's Sport Aviation magazine has an excellent article on it,> provide me your snail mail address and I'll be glad to send you a copy.> Also, there is a Facetmobile homepage at> http://users.aol.com/slicklynne/wanifan.htm (or just search "Facetmobile" or> "Wanifan").> Regarding the biplane Aerial version of the Piet someone inquired about: I> was also interested in the biplane and got the conversion plans. Have heard> different versions of how it flew, with the original builder admitting that> it tended to hunt nose up and down in flight. A bit of a stability problem> created by the additional wing with no stagger that would require a bit of> modification to the design, but not as much as one source has indicated such> as negative stagger and lots of nose ballast. If the ship had been that far> out of the stability envelope it should have been unable to recover the first> time it was stalled. I didn't want to get into that much development effort> so stayed with the original Piet configuration.> Look forward to high-tech chatting on a 1929 design. The Piet does, after> all, have a fly-by-wire control system!Mike thanks for the info on the facitmobile. Will follow up on it Didnot know it had been around that long. Ernie Hagness 2337 Willow Dr.Portland, Texas 78374 EAA23375________________________________________________________________________________
POWRACER(at)aol.com wrote:> > My name is Mike List and I am a new member of the Buckeye Pietenpol> Association. Steve kindly added me to the chat group and showed me his> project last month on a trip to Salt Lake City. Just starting on our> Pietenpol and waiting on the first batch of spruce to arrive. Our ship is to> be Corvair powered with wire-spoke wheels. This will be a family project> with the wife and two young daughters eager to help.> A bit of background: private pilot with time in Aeronca L-3, Cessna's,> Piper's, ultralight and experimentals, design engineer for Lockheed Skunk> Works, kayak builder, EAA Chapter 49 member, WWI aviation enthusiast and open> cockpit lover.> Agree with Steve that the Pietenpol is a wonderful ship that lends itself to> customizing provided the basic structure is not compromised. Stay away from> wood lift struts and do add the jury struts. Lots of fun and the wife (or> husband) knows where you are.> Saw Ernie is interested in the Facetmobile by Barnaby Wanifan. The October> 1984 issue of EAA's Sport Aviation magazine has an excellent article on it,> provide me your snail mail address and I'll be glad to send you a copy.> Also, there is a Facetmobile homepage at> http://users.aol.com/slicklynne/wanifan.htm (or just search "Facetmobile" or> "Wanifan").> Regarding the biplane Aerial version of the Piet someone inquired about: I> was also interested in the biplane and got the conversion plans. Have heard> different versions of how it flew, with the original builder admitting that> it tended to hunt nose up and down in flight. A bit of a stability problem> created by the additional wing with no stagger that would require a bit of> modification to the design, but not as much as one source has indicated such> as negative stagger and lots of nose ballast. If the ship had been that far> out of the stability envelope it should have been unable to recover the first> time it was stalled. I didn't want to get into that much development effort> so stayed with the original Piet configuration.> Look forward to high-tech chatting on a 1929 design. The Piet does, after> all, have a fly-by-wire control system!Mike thanks for the info on the facitmobile. Will follow up on it Didnot know it had been around that long. Ernie Hagness 2337 Willow Dr.Portland, Texas 78374 EAA23375________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Introduction
Original Posted By: "Woodbridge, Gary"
Hello,Steve mentioned that I should send an Intro (thanks for the list,Steve).I'm a member of a couple of EAA chapters in the Cincinnati, OH area.While learning taildragging skills last summer in a J-3 in prep forflying an RV-6 Ijust started, I learned that I'm a ragwing flying fan.I've been fascinated by the Pietenpol since childhood, and am preparingto switchto an Aircamper project (anyone want to buy an RV-6 tailkit?)Thanks for having me on the list. - jim barlow________________________________________________________________________________
Hello,Steve mentioned that I should send an Intro (thanks for the list,Steve).I'm a member of a couple of EAA chapters in the Cincinnati, OH area.While learning taildragging skills last summer in a J-3 in prep forflying an RV-6 Ijust started, I learned that I'm a ragwing flying fan.I've been fascinated by the Pietenpol since childhood, and am preparingto switchto an Aircamper project (anyone want to buy an RV-6 tailkit?)Thanks for having me on the list. - jim barlow________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Introduction
Original Posted By: mikek(at)intex.net (Michael King)
Jim Barlow wrote:> > Hello,> >> I've been fascinated by the Pietenpol since childhood, and am preparing> to switch> to an Aircamper project (anyone want to buy an RV-6 tailkit?)> > Thanks for having me on the list. - jim barlowHello Jim!Glad to see another Piet fan on the list. Have helped an RV-6A builderhere in CA on his project (on the gear now), and while it is a beautifulplane his engine alone will cost about three times what I expect to putinto our Air Camper! And when he is done he can't even fly with hiselbows out in the breeze!Mike List________________________________________________________________________________
Jim Barlow wrote:> > Hello,> >> I've been fascinated by the Pietenpol since childhood, and am preparing> to switch> to an Aircamper project (anyone want to buy an RV-6 tailkit?)> > Thanks for having me on the list. - jim barlowHello Jim!Glad to see another Piet fan on the list. Have helped an RV-6A builderhere in CA on his project (on the gear now), and while it is a beautifulplane his engine alone will cost about three times what I expect to putinto our Air Camper! And when he is done he can't even fly with hiselbows out in the breeze!Mike List________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Introduction
Original Posted By: Michael D Cuy
I want to build a Pietenpol just as though I was in 1932. What I actually dowill hopfully be close enough. The 200 cubic inch slow rpm A engine must bethe whole heart of oldtime style. I have always admired simplicity ofdesign. I can look at the Piet and see everything doing its job. I've beenbuilding things all my life. Boats, bicycles,cameras. I earn my living as aMachinist. I live near Seattle,in Port Orchard,Washington. I have a 22 footsquare workshop. The usual tools. I'm definetly not experienced at aircraftconstruction but I'm very confident I'll find what is needed. I once had afreind who built a Spencer Aircar. I was expossed to the EAA thru him. Ionce took flying lessons In Chehalis Wa. My instructor was Hugh Wilder. Ionly accuired about 20 hours. A lot of it in the rain and below 1000 feet.It was GRAND. Then I had two kids. Now it's 23 years later. It will be GRANDagain. I have a construction question. On the fuselage sides there is a fairingstrip from end to end to hold out the cloth. On the bottom and behind theplywood flooring is there also a fairing strip? Another question. How canone get access to the bellcrank area behind the rear seat if the seat backis nailed in?Cheers Steve________________________________________________________________________________
I want to build a Pietenpol just as though I was in 1932. What I actually dowill hopfully be close enough. The 200 cubic inch slow rpm A engine must bethe whole heart of oldtime style. I have always admired simplicity ofdesign. I can look at the Piet and see everything doing its job. I've beenbuilding things all my life. Boats, bicycles,cameras. I earn my living as aMachinist. I live near Seattle,in Port Orchard,Washington. I have a 22 footsquare workshop. The usual tools. I'm definetly not experienced at aircraftconstruction but I'm very confident I'll find what is needed. I once had afreind who built a Spencer Aircar. I was expossed to the EAA thru him. Ionce took flying lessons In Chehalis Wa. My instructor was Hugh Wilder. Ionly accuired about 20 hours. A lot of it in the rain and below 1000 feet.It was GRAND. Then I had two kids. Now it's 23 years later. It will be GRANDagain. I have a construction question. On the fuselage sides there is a fairingstrip from end to end to hold out the cloth. On the bottom and behind theplywood flooring is there also a fairing strip? Another question. How canone get access to the bellcrank area behind the rear seat if the seat backis nailed in?Cheers Steve________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: RE: Introduction
Original Posted By: Steve Eldredge
Steve Yahn wrote:> I have a construction question. On the fuselage sides there is a fairing> strip from end to end to hold out the cloth. On the bottom and behind the> plywood flooring is there also a fairing strip? Another question. How can> one get access to the bellcrank area behind the rear seat if the seat back> is nailed in?>> Cheers SteveI came upon the same question and just added two fairing strips along the bottom of the fuse back to the end of the plywood the ends under the rear seat. I have access to the rear bellcrank (walking bar) from an access holes on each side and bottom of the fuse. I have only cut out one on the side and one on the bottom however.Stevee________________________________________________________________________________
Steve Yahn wrote:> I have a construction question. On the fuselage sides there is a fairing> strip from end to end to hold out the cloth. On the bottom and behind the> plywood flooring is there also a fairing strip? Another question. How can> one get access to the bellcrank area behind the rear seat if the seat back> is nailed in?>> Cheers SteveI came upon the same question and just added two fairing strips along the bottom of the fuse back to the end of the plywood the ends under the rear seat. I have access to the rear bellcrank (walking bar) from an access holes on each side and bottom of the fuse. I have only cut out one on the side and one on the bottom however.Stevee________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Introduction
Original Posted By: Graham Hansen
Steve,Mine is held on with 4 screws.Ted BrousseauNaples, FL> Another question. How can>one get access to the bellcrank area behind the rear seat if the seat back>is nailed in?>>Cheers Steve>>________________________________________________________________________________
Steve,Mine is held on with 4 screws.Ted BrousseauNaples, FL> Another question. How can>one get access to the bellcrank area behind the rear seat if the seat back>is nailed in?>>Cheers Steve>>________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Introduction
Original Posted By: Jim Sury
when oyu assemble the set and are ready to install it # 1 don't use nails ,use a good quility woos screw . if you are going to be getting in there oftenput a hinge on the set so it will tilt out of the way when you need to get toit .________________________________________________________________________________
when oyu assemble the set and are ready to install it # 1 don't use nails ,use a good quility woos screw . if you are going to be getting in there oftenput a hinge on the set so it will tilt out of the way when you need to get toit .________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Introduction
Original Posted By: Doug Hunt
You lost me on this one. What in the world are you talking about.>when oyu assemble the set and are ready to install it # 1 don't use nails ,>use a good quility woos screw . if you are going to be getting in there often>put a hinge on the set so it will tilt out of the way when you need to get to>it .>>jimsury(at)fbtc.net________________________________________________________________________________
You lost me on this one. What in the world are you talking about.>when oyu assemble the set and are ready to install it # 1 don't use nails ,>use a good quility woos screw . if you are going to be getting in there often>put a hinge on the set so it will tilt out of the way when you need to get to>it .>>jimsury(at)fbtc.net________________________________________________________________________________