Original Posted By: rdecosta(at)autoeurope.com (Richard DeCosta)
I am currently pulling my fuselage together:) But I am having a problem understanding the 1933 plans regarding the meeting of the rear seat backand the turtle back support. The plans show the rear seat back going all the way flush with the top of the fuselage. It also shows the turtle deck supportgoing 3/4 of an inch below the longeron. Can anyone clarify how this shouldbe built? It is starting to look like an airplane:) I left the plywood sidesoff and I am finding this very helpful. I will leave these off for a while soI can locate my controls. Thanks,________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: Michael D Cuy
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: rear seat back>I am currently pulling my fuselage together:) But I am having a problem>understanding the 1933 plans regarding the meeting of the rear seat back>and the turtle back support. The plans show the rear seat back going allthe>way flush with the top of the fuselage. It also shows the turtle decksupport>going 3/4 of an inch below the longeron. Can anyone clarify how thisshould>be built? It is starting to look like an airplane:) I left the plywoodsides>off and I am finding this very helpful. I will leave these off for a whileso>I can locate my controls.>> Thanks,>________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: rear seat back>I am currently pulling my fuselage together:) But I am having a problem>understanding the 1933 plans regarding the meeting of the rear seat back>and the turtle back support. The plans show the rear seat back going allthe>way flush with the top of the fuselage. It also shows the turtle decksupport>going 3/4 of an inch below the longeron. Can anyone clarify how thisshould>be built? It is starting to look like an airplane:) I left the plywoodsides>off and I am finding this very helpful. I will leave these off for a whileso>I can locate my controls.>> Thanks,>________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: LanhamOS(at)aol.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Re: rear seat back>Hey John,> Thanks for the reply. I did not think the plans were right. I always>thought>that the turtle deck support extended above the rear seat back. How aboutthe>front seat? How does the cowl support attach to the front seat back?The1/2">stifferners are below the plywood stiffener. The front seat back attachesto>the fwd 1/2" stiffener but what does the cowl support attach to?> In addition, I am leaving off the last 1" brace on both sides. I planon>gluing in a solid piece of spruce ripped to fit after I pull the sides>together.>This should save alot of time and hand planing. I will let you know howthis>works out.>> Thanks,> -=Ron=->________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Re: rear seat back>Hey John,> Thanks for the reply. I did not think the plans were right. I always>thought>that the turtle deck support extended above the rear seat back. How aboutthe>front seat? How does the cowl support attach to the front seat back?The1/2">stifferners are below the plywood stiffener. The front seat back attachesto>the fwd 1/2" stiffener but what does the cowl support attach to?> In addition, I am leaving off the last 1" brace on both sides. I planon>gluing in a solid piece of spruce ripped to fit after I pull the sides>together.>This should save alot of time and hand planing. I will let you know howthis>works out.>> Thanks,> -=Ron=->________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: PTNPOL(at)aol.com
Ron,There is a crosspiece that supports the top of the rear seat back. It isBEHIND the top of the rear seat back. The plywood turtledeck support isglued BEHIND the crosspiece ---- glued to the back of it. This also givesa little 'cut-out' for the shoulder blades.John-----Original Message-----
Ron,There is a crosspiece that supports the top of the rear seat back. It isBEHIND the top of the rear seat back. The plywood turtledeck support isglued BEHIND the crosspiece ---- glued to the back of it. This also givesa little 'cut-out' for the shoulder blades.John-----Original Message-----
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Original Posted By: jcmjones
Hey John, Thanks for the reply. I did not think the plans were right. I alwaysthoughtthat the turtle deck support extended above the rear seat back. How about thefront seat? How does the cowl support attach to the front seat back?The 1/2"stifferners are below the plywood stiffener. The front seat back attaches tothe fwd 1/2" stiffener but what does the cowl support attach to? In addition, I am leaving off the last 1" brace on both sides. I plan ongluing in a solid piece of spruce ripped to fit after I pull the sidestogether.This should save alot of time and hand planing. I will let you know how thisworks out. Thanks, -=Ron=-________________________________________________________________________________
Hey John, Thanks for the reply. I did not think the plans were right. I alwaysthoughtthat the turtle deck support extended above the rear seat back. How about thefront seat? How does the cowl support attach to the front seat back?The 1/2"stifferners are below the plywood stiffener. The front seat back attaches tothe fwd 1/2" stiffener but what does the cowl support attach to? In addition, I am leaving off the last 1" brace on both sides. I plan ongluing in a solid piece of spruce ripped to fit after I pull the sidestogether.This should save alot of time and hand planing. I will let you know how thisworks out. Thanks, -=Ron=-________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: PTNPOL(at)aol.com
That front cowl support is more of a problem. I think I glued in someblocks on top of the cross stiffener to glue to the back of the cowlsupport. It seems like the plans were not so clear.The last one inch brace you mentioned must be the tail post. I know minedid not work out so well. I know another builder who did what you describe.Let me know how it comes out.John-----Original Message-----
That front cowl support is more of a problem. I think I glued in someblocks on top of the cross stiffener to glue to the back of the cowlsupport. It seems like the plans were not so clear.The last one inch brace you mentioned must be the tail post. I know minedid not work out so well. I know another builder who did what you describe.Let me know how it comes out.John-----Original Message-----