Pietenpol-List: Ordered my plans, going to build ribs

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Sun Oct 11, 1998 10:16 am

Original Posted By: Mike Cunningham
Dave and Connie wrote:> > Ian,> > About how much is the shipping on wood? One of the notes said that> Jean ships by Delta Air Freight. Does Jean also handle customs> clearance? I would have him ship to Rochester, NY.> Dave> > >I ordered my wood from Jean Peters about two years ago. Wood and service> >were first class! There was a shortage (actually a wrong size) on a> >couple of small pieces and Jean corrected immediately with no charge or> >hassle.> >> >> >Dave & Connie,You might want to try Condon Lumber in White Plains and Stormville NYfor your wood. Condon Bennett was one of my students and runs the place.Telephone (914) 221-0156 or 946-4111, fax (914) 221-4842. They made up aset of spars for a Champ a few years back and I also had them mill thefairings for the Tripacer I did a couple years ago. Prices weren't badand they are a little closer.________________________________________________________________________________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Sat Dec 12, 1998 2:54 am

Original Posted By: Warren Shoun
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Ordered my plans, going to build ribs>The check went off to Don Pietenpol yesterday. Now I have to>start ordering materials. The first order will be for rib>material only. That should carry me to summer at least. This>is not going to be the fastest building job

.>>Richard DeCosta suggests 564' of 1/4 x 1/2 in 6' lengths. Does>this fit in with other people's experiences?>>I think that all I will need for ribs are the 1/4 x 1/2, a quart>of T-88, and about 1 and 1/2 sheets of 1/16 ply. The gussets>will be stapled in place with 1/4" staples that I will pull out>when the epoxy cures. I got good at removing staples by building>a cedar strip canoe. Richard lists a few other sticks that I>don't think are needed until later. Are these the correct>materials to build a set of ribs?>>Aircraft Spruce and Specialty vs. Wicks or who whould I order my>wood from? I am still looking for a local Douglas Fir supplier>but am not having any luck. Since I will have to order wood I>may as well go with Sitka Spruce. I can resaw on a table saw if>needed. A local source in NY State, northeast Ohio or southern>Ontario would really help. Any suggestions?>>Dave Matthews>Retsof, NY>>________________________________________________________________________________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Sat Dec 12, 1998 8:49 am

Original Posted By: Gordon Brimhall
The check went off to Don Pietenpol yesterday. Now I have tostart ordering materials. The first order will be for rib material only. That should carry me to summer at least. Thisis not going to be the fastest building job

.Richard DeCosta suggests 564' of 1/4 x 1/2 in 6' lengths. Doesthis fit in with other people's experiences?I think that all I will need for ribs are the 1/4 x 1/2, a quartof T-88, and about 1 and 1/2 sheets of 1/16 ply. The gussetswill be stapled in place with 1/4" staples that I will pull outwhen the epoxy cures. I got good at removing staples by buildinga cedar strip canoe. Richard lists a few other sticks that I don't think are needed until later. Are these the correct materials to build a set of ribs? Aircraft Spruce and Specialty vs. Wicks or who whould I order mywood from? I am still looking for a local Douglas Fir supplierbut am not having any luck. Since I will have to order wood Imay as well go with Sitka Spruce. I can resaw on a table saw ifneeded. A local source in NY State, northeast Ohio or southern Ontario would really help. Any suggestions?Dave MatthewsRetsof, NY________________________________________________________________________________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Sat Dec 12, 1998 9:14 am

Original Posted By: Gordon Brimhall
Only AFTER I had ordered all of my rib & tail materials from Wicks didI discover this source:Jean Peters at Western Aircraft SuppliesCalgary, Alberta Canada(403)250-1955The guy is super nice and knows the Piet in & out. If you want woodfor your Piet, just tell him what part of the ship your building &he'll send you the right amounts and sizes. I have not ordered fromhim yet, so I can't personally vouch for quality of wood, but hisprices are better than wicks, and he wsa quite adamant on the phonethat when you order from him you get great wood. For an example of hisprices, if you ordered all of the wood for the fuselage from him itwould cost you $575 & $20 for crating (ships Delta Air Freight).Can anyone vouch for the quality? I know someone must be able to,since I got his number from this group. :)Richard---Dave and Connie wrote:>> The check went off to Don Pietenpol yesterday. Now I have to> start ordering materials. The first order will be for rib > material only. That should carry me to summer at least. This> is not going to be the fastest building job

.> > Richard DeCosta suggests 564' of 1/4 x 1/2 in 6' lengths. Does> this fit in with other people's experiences?> > I think that all I will need for ribs are the 1/4 x 1/2, a quart> of T-88, and about 1 and 1/2 sheets of 1/16 ply. The gussets> will be stapled in place with 1/4" staples that I will pull out> when the epoxy cures. I got good at removing staples by building> a cedar strip canoe. Richard lists a few other sticks that I > don't think are needed until later. Are these the correct > materials to build a set of ribs? > > Aircraft Spruce and Specialty vs. Wicks or who whould I order my> wood from? I am still looking for a local Douglas Fir supplier> but am not having any luck. Since I will have to order wood I> may as well go with Sitka Spruce. I can resaw on a table saw if> needed. A local source in NY State, northeast Ohio or southern > Ontario would really help. Any suggestions?> > Dave Matthews> Retsof, NY> > ==http://www.wrld.com/w3builder"All knowledge is of itself of some value. There is nothing so minute or inconsiderable, that I would not rather know it than not." --Samuel, Dr. Johnson________________________________________________________________________________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Sat Dec 12, 1998 10:36 am

Original Posted By: Dave and Connie
Dave, You muust have heard by now that Bernie made his cuts to the center ofthe blade. Therefore, the dim. would be 1/16th smaller than it says in theplans. You should too. The weight you save will a lot overall. It will makeyou happier and allow you to carry more usuable weight.Regards,Domenic-----Original Message-----

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Sat Dec 12, 1998 8:11 pm

Original Posted By:> Richard DeCosta
I bought my spars,leading edge,and trailing edge material from westernaircraft,spars were 19 rings to the inch you can pick a ring and follow itfrom one end to the other. He is only 2 hours by road from me.so i picked it up myself. Doug.....

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Sat Dec 12, 1998 8:29 pm

Original Posted By:> > Richard DeCosta
Thanks for the report. I will be ordering from him next for sure.---"D.J.H." wrote:>> I bought my spars,leading edge,and trailing edge material from western> aircraft,spars were 19 rings to the inch you can pick a ring andfollow it> from one end to the other.> He is only 2 hours by road from me.so i picked it up myself.> Doug.....> > ----------

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Sat Dec 12, 1998 8:39 pm

Original Posted By: TLC62770(at)aol.com
Great!, I have already read it. I am hoping to fly up, dodging thethunderstorms all the way, from Florida Ted,Naples, FLGN-1>Steve:>>Hey! That's right. Flight of Passage should be required reading for all of>you who will make th pilgrimage. NEWS FLASH - All of you planning to make>the trip should get a copy of Flight of Passage, by Rinker Buck, and read it>prior to the trip.>________________________________________________________________________________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Mon Dec 14, 1998 9:25 am

Original Posted By: Michael D Cuy
Ian,About how much is the shipping on wood? One of the notes said thatJean ships by Delta Air Freight. Does Jean also handle customs clearance? I would have him ship to Rochester, NY.Dave>I ordered my wood from Jean Peters about two years ago. Wood and service>were first class! There was a shortage (actually a wrong size) on a>couple of small pieces and Jean corrected immediately with no charge or>hassle.>>________________________________________________________________________________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Mon Dec 14, 1998 10:16 am

Original Posted By: Gordon Brimhall
I ordered my wood from Jean Peters about two years ago. Wood and servicewere first class! There was a shortage (actually a wrong size) on acouple of small pieces and Jean corrected immediately with no charge orhassle.________________________________________________________________________________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Dec 15, 1998 1:10 pm

Original Posted By: William Conway
Not sure how he ships to the States. My wood came in 2 14foot saunatubes about 10 inches in diameter. Best bet is to phone him. Let it ringas it sometimes takes a few.________________________________________________________________________________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:27 pm

Original Posted By: oil can
> > Only AFTER I had ordered all of my rib & tail materials from Wicks did> I discover this source:> > Jean Peters at Western Aircraft Supplies> Calgary, Alberta Canada> (403)250-1955> > The guy is super nice and knows the Piet in & out. If you want wood> for your Piet, just tell him what part of the ship your building &> he'll send you the right amounts and sizes. I have not ordered from> him yet, so I can't personally vouch for quality of wood, but his> prices are better than wicks, and he wsa quite adamant on the phone> that when you order from him you get great wood. For an example of his> prices, if you ordered all of the wood for the fuselage from him it> would cost you $575 & $20 for crating (ships Delta Air Freight).> > Can anyone vouch for the quality? I know someone must be able to,> since I got his number from this group.

> > Richard> > ---Dave and Connie wrote:> >> > The check went off to Don Pietenpol yesterday. Now I have to> > start ordering materials. The first order will be for rib > > material only. That should carry me to summer at least. This> > is not going to be the fastest building job

.> > > > Richard DeCosta suggests 564' of 1/4 x 1/2 in 6' lengths. Does> > this fit in with other people's experiences?> > > > I think that all I will need for ribs are the 1/4 x 1/2, a quart> > of T-88, and about 1 and 1/2 sheets of 1/16 ply. The gussets> > will be stapled in place with 1/4" staples that I will pull out> > when the epoxy cures. I got good at removing staples by building> > a cedar strip canoe. Richard lists a few other sticks that I > > don't think are needed until later. Are these the correct > > materials to build a set of ribs? > > > > Aircraft Spruce and Specialty vs. Wicks or who whould I order my> > wood from? I am still looking for a local Douglas Fir supplier> > but am not having any luck. Since I will have to order wood I> > may as well go with Sitka Spruce. I can resaw on a table saw if> > needed. A local source in NY State, northeast Ohio or southern > > Ontario would really help. Any suggestions?> > > > Dave Matthews> > Retsof, NY> > > > > > ==> http://www.wrld.com/w3builder> "All knowledge is of itself of some value. There > is nothing so minute or inconsiderable, that I would > not rather know it than not." --Samuel, Dr. Johnson> > > > ________________________________________________________________________________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:27 pm

Original Posted By: Ted Brousseau
> > > > Only AFTER I had ordered all of my rib & tail materials from Wicksdid> > I discover this source:> > > > Jean Peters at Western Aircraft Supplies> > Calgary, Alberta Canada> > (403)250-1955> > > > The guy is super nice and knows the Piet in & out. If you want wood> > for your Piet, just tell him what part of the ship your building &> > he'll send you the right amounts and sizes. I have not ordered from> > him yet, so I can't personally vouch for quality of wood, but his> > prices are better than wicks, and he wsa quite adamant on the phone> > that when you order from him you get great wood. For an example ofhis> > prices, if you ordered all of the wood for the fuselage from him it> > would cost you $575 & $20 for crating (ships Delta Air Freight).> > > > Can anyone vouch for the quality? I know someone must be able to,> > since I got his number from this group.

> > > > Richard> > > > ---Dave and Connie wrote:> > >> > > The check went off to Don Pietenpol yesterday. Now I have to> > > start ordering materials. The first order will be for rib > > > material only. That should carry me to summer at least. This> > > is not going to be the fastest building job

.> > > > > > Richard DeCosta suggests 564' of 1/4 x 1/2 in 6' lengths. Does> > > this fit in with other people's experiences?> > > > > > I think that all I will need for ribs are the 1/4 x 1/2, a quart> > > of T-88, and about 1 and 1/2 sheets of 1/16 ply. The gussets> > > will be stapled in place with 1/4" staples that I will pull out> > > when the epoxy cures. I got good at removing staples by building> > > a cedar strip canoe. Richard lists a few other sticks that I > > > don't think are needed until later. Are these the correct > > > materials to build a set of ribs? > > > > > > Aircraft Spruce and Specialty vs. Wicks or who whould I order my> > > wood from? I am still looking for a local Douglas Fir supplier> > > but am not having any luck. Since I will have to order wood I> > > may as well go with Sitka Spruce. I can resaw on a table saw if> > > needed. A local source in NY State, northeast Ohio or southern > > > Ontario would really help. Any suggestions?> > > > > > Dave Matthews> > > Retsof, NY> > > > > > > > > > ==> > http://www.wrld.com/w3builder> > "All knowledge is of itself of some value. There > > is nothing so minute or inconsiderable, that I would > > not rather know it than not." --Samuel, Dr. Johnson> > > > > > > > > ==http://www.wrld.com/w3builder"All knowledge is of itself of some value. There is nothing so minute or inconsiderable, that I would not rather know it than not." --Samuel, Dr. Johnson________________________________________________________________________________

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