Original Posted By: LanhamOS(at)aol.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Holiday Toys>I guess this is the spot where we mention what kind of cool Piet stuff>Santa brought us this year. I ordered the 1/4 scale Piet plans from>RCM. Will put swing wings on it ! Anybody been flying in Montana?>Wind chill is -70>phil>>-->Check out Crusader Toys @>http://www.thegrid.net/crusader/>>_____ ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Holiday Toys
Pietenpol-List: Holiday Toys
Original Posted By: Dave and Connie
I guess this is the spot where we mention what kind of cool Piet stuffSanta brought us this year. I ordered the 1/4 scale Piet plans fromRCM. Will put swing wings on it ! Anybody been flying in Montana?Wind chill is -70phil--Check out Crusader Toys @http://www.thegrid.net/crusader/_______ ... __________
I guess this is the spot where we mention what kind of cool Piet stuffSanta brought us this year. I ordered the 1/4 scale Piet plans fromRCM. Will put swing wings on it ! Anybody been flying in Montana?Wind chill is -70phil--Check out Crusader Toys @http://www.thegrid.net/crusader/_______ ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Holiday Toys
Original Posted By: Michael D Cuy
Dave and Connie wrote:> >I guess this is the spot where we mention what kind of cool Piet stuff> >Santa brought us this year. I ordered the 1/4 scale Piet plans from> >RCM. Will put swing wings on it ! Anybody been flying in Montana?> >Wind chill is -70>I have not got a RCM for a year, how much were the 1/4 scale plans and whatengine size was used? I have a spare old McCoy 40 RC BlueHead New in Box Iwould like to put on an old design.Gordon>________________________________________________________________________________
Dave and Connie wrote:> >I guess this is the spot where we mention what kind of cool Piet stuff> >Santa brought us this year. I ordered the 1/4 scale Piet plans from> >RCM. Will put swing wings on it ! Anybody been flying in Montana?> >Wind chill is -70>I have not got a RCM for a year, how much were the 1/4 scale plans and whatengine size was used? I have a spare old McCoy 40 RC BlueHead New in Box Iwould like to put on an old design.Gordon>________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Holiday Toys
Original Posted By: Mike Cunningham
>I guess this is the spot where we mention what kind of cool Piet stuff>Santa brought us this year. I ordered the 1/4 scale Piet plans from>RCM. Will put swing wings on it ! Anybody been flying in Montana?>Wind chill is -70I ordered my plans from Don Peitenpol - and got them too.Now I am in the process of tracking down my wood source. Dave________________________________________________________________________________
>I guess this is the spot where we mention what kind of cool Piet stuff>Santa brought us this year. I ordered the 1/4 scale Piet plans from>RCM. Will put swing wings on it ! Anybody been flying in Montana?>Wind chill is -70I ordered my plans from Don Peitenpol - and got them too.Now I am in the process of tracking down my wood source. Dave________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Holiday Toys
Original Posted By: Phil Peck
How are those plans from RCM? I have thought about buiding that one, hopingit would make a really cool but quick to build scale model.Are they exact scale or pretty close?-----Original Message-----
How are those plans from RCM? I have thought about buiding that one, hopingit would make a really cool but quick to build scale model.Are they exact scale or pretty close?-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Holiday Toys
Original Posted By: Gordon Brimhall
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Holiday Toys>Gordon,Mike, I expect to get those plans any day now. Will let you>know what I think of them. They where $18.00 plus shipping Which seems>high until you stop to figuare out how much else everything is you drop>in a 1/4 scale model. I have been working on a 1/4 scale cub and its>amazing what you need just for it. But I love RC . And I see it as a way>to fly without getting my feet off the ground. Some people like to just>fly, others like to just build. Though I think a full size Piet will get>this part time pilot off his feet.>The 40 size engine is not big enough. You will probably need a 90.>phil ( Crusader lives at the tip of California where it is only 8>degree right now)>-->Check out Crusader Toys @>http://www.thegrid.net/crusader/>>_____ ... __________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Holiday Toys>Gordon,Mike, I expect to get those plans any day now. Will let you>know what I think of them. They where $18.00 plus shipping Which seems>high until you stop to figuare out how much else everything is you drop>in a 1/4 scale model. I have been working on a 1/4 scale cub and its>amazing what you need just for it. But I love RC . And I see it as a way>to fly without getting my feet off the ground. Some people like to just>fly, others like to just build. Though I think a full size Piet will get>this part time pilot off his feet.>The 40 size engine is not big enough. You will probably need a 90.>phil ( Crusader lives at the tip of California where it is only 8>degree right now)>-->Check out Crusader Toys @>http://www.thegrid.net/crusader/>>_____ ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Holiday Toys
Original Posted By: Dave and Connie
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Holiday Toys>Gordon,Mike, I expect to get those plans any day now. Will let you>know what I think of them. They where $18.00 plus shipping Which seems>high until you stop to figuare out how much else everything is you drop>in a 1/4 scale model. I have been working on a 1/4 scale cub and its>amazing what you need just for it. But I love RC . And I see it as a way>to fly without getting my feet off the ground. Some people like to just>fly, others like to just build. Though I think a full size Piet will get>this part time pilot off his feet.>The 40 size engine is not big enough. You will probably need a 90.>phil ( Crusader lives at the tip of California where it is only 8>degree right now)>-->Check out Crusader Toys @>http://www.thegrid.net/crusader/>>_____ ... __________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Holiday Toys>Gordon,Mike, I expect to get those plans any day now. Will let you>know what I think of them. They where $18.00 plus shipping Which seems>high until you stop to figuare out how much else everything is you drop>in a 1/4 scale model. I have been working on a 1/4 scale cub and its>amazing what you need just for it. But I love RC . And I see it as a way>to fly without getting my feet off the ground. Some people like to just>fly, others like to just build. Though I think a full size Piet will get>this part time pilot off his feet.>The 40 size engine is not big enough. You will probably need a 90.>phil ( Crusader lives at the tip of California where it is only 8>degree right now)>-->Check out Crusader Toys @>http://www.thegrid.net/crusader/>>_____ ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Holiday Toys
Original Posted By: Mike Cunningham
Gordon,Mike, I expect to get those plans any day now. Will let youknow what I think of them. They where $18.00 plus shipping Which seemshigh until you stop to figuare out how much else everything is you dropin a 1/4 scale model. I have been working on a 1/4 scale cub and itsamazing what you need just for it. But I love RC . And I see it as a wayto fly without getting my feet off the ground. Some people like to justfly, others like to just build. Though I think a full size Piet will getthis part time pilot off his feet.The 40 size engine is not big enough. You will probably need a 90.phil ( Crusader lives at the tip of California where it is only 8degree right now)--Check out Crusader Toys @http://www.thegrid.net/crusader/_______ ... __________
Gordon,Mike, I expect to get those plans any day now. Will let youknow what I think of them. They where $18.00 plus shipping Which seemshigh until you stop to figuare out how much else everything is you dropin a 1/4 scale model. I have been working on a 1/4 scale cub and itsamazing what you need just for it. But I love RC . And I see it as a wayto fly without getting my feet off the ground. Some people like to justfly, others like to just build. Though I think a full size Piet will getthis part time pilot off his feet.The 40 size engine is not big enough. You will probably need a 90.phil ( Crusader lives at the tip of California where it is only 8degree right now)--Check out Crusader Toys @http://www.thegrid.net/crusader/_______ ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Holiday Toys
Original Posted By:> Phil Peck
>Philthanks for the info on the 1/4 scale piet. Yes your right about cost no a days.My Son bought me a B24 Bomber kit last year and I think it was 40 bucks and onlya large scale Gallows W48" Wing Span. Static Model.I've been saving this 40 engine for over 44 yrs. I sold off a bunch of stuff twoyrs ago but still have lots of 12/5 12/6 etc props that age.Been pretty slow on RC the last few years but would love to build a Baby Piet togo along with my Ultralite Piet I am building now and then when I build the realPiet I will have 2 Baby's and a Grand Daddy. If I build the 1/4 scale Iwould put a camera in it as it is legal with my Ham Lic. I have the camera andthe Board from PC Electronics is not expensive, would just need a 440 MHZ rec toget the video.Too many projects but that is what keeps the old heart pumping.Gordon> -----Original Message-----
>Philthanks for the info on the 1/4 scale piet. Yes your right about cost no a days.My Son bought me a B24 Bomber kit last year and I think it was 40 bucks and onlya large scale Gallows W48" Wing Span. Static Model.I've been saving this 40 engine for over 44 yrs. I sold off a bunch of stuff twoyrs ago but still have lots of 12/5 12/6 etc props that age.Been pretty slow on RC the last few years but would love to build a Baby Piet togo along with my Ultralite Piet I am building now and then when I build the realPiet I will have 2 Baby's and a Grand Daddy. If I build the 1/4 scale Iwould put a camera in it as it is legal with my Ham Lic. I have the camera andthe Board from PC Electronics is not expensive, would just need a 440 MHZ rec toget the video.Too many projects but that is what keeps the old heart pumping.Gordon> -----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Holiday Toys
Original Posted By: Phil Peck
Guess everything is more costly now a days.With my plans from RagWing for the Ultra piet,( I guess I could scale themdown more for 1/4 scale.) I got 22 11 1/2" x 17" plans and a 24 pagebuilders manual.All for 54.00 Shipping free First Class Mail, if I had not traded a computerfor three sets of plans.So it will be interesting to see what your plans are like.GordonRW1 Ultra Piet (Building)Phil Peck wrote:> Gordon,Mike, I expect to get those plans any day now. Will let you> know what I think of them. They where $18.00 plus shipping Which seems> high until you stop to figuare out how much else everything is you drop> in a 1/4 scale model. I have been working on a 1/4 scale cub and its> amazing what you need just for it. But I love RC . And I see it as a way> to fly without getting my feet off the ground. Some people like to just> fly, others like to just build. Though I think a full size Piet will get> this part time pilot off his feet.> The 40 size engine is not big enough. You will probably need a 90.> phil ( Crusader lives at the tip of California where it is only 8> degree right now)> --> Check out Crusader Toys @> http://www.thegrid.net/crusader/_______ ... __________
Guess everything is more costly now a days.With my plans from RagWing for the Ultra piet,( I guess I could scale themdown more for 1/4 scale.) I got 22 11 1/2" x 17" plans and a 24 pagebuilders manual.All for 54.00 Shipping free First Class Mail, if I had not traded a computerfor three sets of plans.So it will be interesting to see what your plans are like.GordonRW1 Ultra Piet (Building)Phil Peck wrote:> Gordon,Mike, I expect to get those plans any day now. Will let you> know what I think of them. They where $18.00 plus shipping Which seems> high until you stop to figuare out how much else everything is you drop> in a 1/4 scale model. I have been working on a 1/4 scale cub and its> amazing what you need just for it. But I love RC . And I see it as a way> to fly without getting my feet off the ground. Some people like to just> fly, others like to just build. Though I think a full size Piet will get> this part time pilot off his feet.> The 40 size engine is not big enough. You will probably need a 90.> phil ( Crusader lives at the tip of California where it is only 8> degree right now)> --> Check out Crusader Toys @> http://www.thegrid.net/crusader/_______ ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Holiday Toys
Original Posted By: Phil Peck
Ok Phil, I have several plans from RCM in my collection and have built a fewplanes from them. They are always of equally good quality and I don't recallever finding a mistake on any of them. I will definitely add a set of RCPiet plans to go with my full size Piet plans. I would think a lot of Pietowners would want to do a 1/4 scale model of their planes and the RC versionshould have the same relative simplicity and would be easy to fly, even makea good trainer. I too love the RC stuff, been flying 'em since the 70's.Before that did FF and CL.Merry Christmas everyone...-----Original Message-----
Ok Phil, I have several plans from RCM in my collection and have built a fewplanes from them. They are always of equally good quality and I don't recallever finding a mistake on any of them. I will definitely add a set of RCPiet plans to go with my full size Piet plans. I would think a lot of Pietowners would want to do a 1/4 scale model of their planes and the RC versionshould have the same relative simplicity and would be easy to fly, even makea good trainer. I too love the RC stuff, been flying 'em since the 70's.Before that did FF and CL.Merry Christmas everyone...-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Holiday Toys
Original Posted By: UUNet
RCM Did have a forty size piet. As soon as I get my new plans catolagi'll let you know more about it.philGordon Brimhall wrote:> Guess everything is more costly now a days.>> With my plans from RagWing for the Ultra piet,( I guess I could scale> them> down more for 1/4 scale.) I got 22 11 1/2" x 17" plans and a 24 page> builders manual.> All for 54.00 Shipping free First Class Mail, if I had not traded a> computer> for three sets of plans.>> So it will be interesting to see what your plans are like.>> Gordon> RW1 Ultra Piet (Building)>> Phil Peck wrote:>> > Gordon,Mike, I expect to get those plans any day now. Will let> you> > know what I think of them. They where $18.00 plus shipping Which> seems> > high until you stop to figuare out how much else everything is you> drop> > in a 1/4 scale model. I have been working on a 1/4 scale cub and> its> > amazing what you need just for it. But I love RC . And I see it as a> way> > to fly without getting my feet off the ground. Some people like to> just> > fly, others like to just build. Though I think a full size Piet will> get> > this part time pilot off his feet.> > The 40 size engine is not big enough. You will probably need a 90.> > phil ( Crusader lives at the tip of California where it is only 8> > degree right now)> > --> > Check out Crusader Toys @> > http://www.thegrid.net/crusader/--Check out Crusader Toys @http://www.thegrid.net/crusader/_______ ... __________
RCM Did have a forty size piet. As soon as I get my new plans catolagi'll let you know more about it.philGordon Brimhall wrote:> Guess everything is more costly now a days.>> With my plans from RagWing for the Ultra piet,( I guess I could scale> them> down more for 1/4 scale.) I got 22 11 1/2" x 17" plans and a 24 page> builders manual.> All for 54.00 Shipping free First Class Mail, if I had not traded a> computer> for three sets of plans.>> So it will be interesting to see what your plans are like.>> Gordon> RW1 Ultra Piet (Building)>> Phil Peck wrote:>> > Gordon,Mike, I expect to get those plans any day now. Will let> you> > know what I think of them. They where $18.00 plus shipping Which> seems> > high until you stop to figuare out how much else everything is you> drop> > in a 1/4 scale model. I have been working on a 1/4 scale cub and> its> > amazing what you need just for it. But I love RC . And I see it as a> way> > to fly without getting my feet off the ground. Some people like to> just> > fly, others like to just build. Though I think a full size Piet will> get> > this part time pilot off his feet.> > The 40 size engine is not big enough. You will probably need a 90.> > phil ( Crusader lives at the tip of California where it is only 8> > degree right now)> > --> > Check out Crusader Toys @> > http://www.thegrid.net/crusader/--Check out Crusader Toys @http://www.thegrid.net/crusader/_______ ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Holiday Toys
Original Posted By: Phil Peck
That's a good price ($18.00) , it cost me about $65.00 canadian to have aset profesionally re-printed from a set I discovered in Halifax.Domenic-----Original Message-----
That's a good price ($18.00) , it cost me about $65.00 canadian to have aset profesionally re-printed from a set I discovered in Halifax.Domenic-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Holiday Toys
Original Posted By: Gordon Brimhall
Merry Christmas to all !!!In the Dec. issue of Model Airplane News magazine, there is an article about,what else, the Pietenpol Air Camper !! One of the pictures of the fullscale, shows the aileron cables on top, on the exterior of the wing. What'sup with that? I would think it would cause some buzzing noises, as well asdisrupt the airflow over the wing. The tail number is 626...I think this isone of first planes that Bernie built. It also has a hinged cut-out for pilotentry. I'm seriously thinking of doing the cut-out thing in my wing,especially if Bernie says it's alright.Chuck ________________________________________________________________________________
Merry Christmas to all !!!In the Dec. issue of Model Airplane News magazine, there is an article about,what else, the Pietenpol Air Camper !! One of the pictures of the fullscale, shows the aileron cables on top, on the exterior of the wing. What'sup with that? I would think it would cause some buzzing noises, as well asdisrupt the airflow over the wing. The tail number is 626...I think this isone of first planes that Bernie built. It also has a hinged cut-out for pilotentry. I'm seriously thinking of doing the cut-out thing in my wing,especially if Bernie says it's alright.Chuck ________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Holiday Toys
Original Posted By: Michael D Cuy
The RW1 Ultra Pietenpol has the cables come up on top of the wing. Seems not tobother anything at all. But then I have only seen the movies so far. Don'tremember how the real piet does it, will have to look at the plans again.My store for the RCM quit selling it and I only was buying issues that had thingsthat interested me. I hate reading the same adds over and over.Dec would be a keeper.GordonRcaprd(at)aol.com wrote:> Merry Christmas to all !!!>> In the Dec. issue of Model Airplane News magazine, there is an article about,> what else, the Pietenpol Air Camper !! One of the pictures of the full> scale, shows the aileron cables on top, on the exterior of the wing. What's> up with that? I would think it would cause some buzzing noises, as well as> disrupt the airflow over the wing. The tail number is 626...I think this is> one of first planes that Bernie built. It also has a hinged cut-out for pilot> entry. I'm seriously thinking of doing the cut-out thing in my wing,> especially if Bernie says it's alright.>> Chuck________________________________________________________________________________
The RW1 Ultra Pietenpol has the cables come up on top of the wing. Seems not tobother anything at all. But then I have only seen the movies so far. Don'tremember how the real piet does it, will have to look at the plans again.My store for the RCM quit selling it and I only was buying issues that had thingsthat interested me. I hate reading the same adds over and over.Dec would be a keeper.GordonRcaprd(at)aol.com wrote:> Merry Christmas to all !!!>> In the Dec. issue of Model Airplane News magazine, there is an article about,> what else, the Pietenpol Air Camper !! One of the pictures of the full> scale, shows the aileron cables on top, on the exterior of the wing. What's> up with that? I would think it would cause some buzzing noises, as well as> disrupt the airflow over the wing. The tail number is 626...I think this is> one of first planes that Bernie built. It also has a hinged cut-out for pilot> entry. I'm seriously thinking of doing the cut-out thing in my wing,> especially if Bernie says it's alright.>> Chuck________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Holiday Toys
Original Posted By: Mike Cunningham
>Merry Christmas to all !!!>>In the Dec. issue of Model Airplane News magazine, there is an article about,>what else, the Pietenpol Air Camper !! One of the pictures of the full>scale, shows the aileron cables on top, on the exterior of the wing. What's>up with that? Chuck- That's how Bernie ran the aileron cables on the early Air Camper'sand the Scouts. The Scouts are generally still built like that. Earl Myer'snew Scout here in OH has this same configuration. I would think it would cause some buzzing noises, as well as>disrupt the airflow over the wing. The tail number is 626...I think this is>one of first planes that Bernie built. It also has a hinged cut-out for pilot>entry. I'm seriously thinking of doing the cut-out thing in my wing,>especially if Bernie says it's alright.Chuck- No matter who says what about the wing cutout/flop, etc. you certainly will save on your Chiropracter bills by putting one in. The talkabout loss of lift, turbulence over the tail is a bunch of bunk. I have a cutout with a handhold and the plane flies just fine. Build light, climbgood.Mike C. >Chuck ________________________________________________________________________________
>Merry Christmas to all !!!>>In the Dec. issue of Model Airplane News magazine, there is an article about,>what else, the Pietenpol Air Camper !! One of the pictures of the full>scale, shows the aileron cables on top, on the exterior of the wing. What's>up with that? Chuck- That's how Bernie ran the aileron cables on the early Air Camper'sand the Scouts. The Scouts are generally still built like that. Earl Myer'snew Scout here in OH has this same configuration. I would think it would cause some buzzing noises, as well as>disrupt the airflow over the wing. The tail number is 626...I think this is>one of first planes that Bernie built. It also has a hinged cut-out for pilot>entry. I'm seriously thinking of doing the cut-out thing in my wing,>especially if Bernie says it's alright.Chuck- No matter who says what about the wing cutout/flop, etc. you certainly will save on your Chiropracter bills by putting one in. The talkabout loss of lift, turbulence over the tail is a bunch of bunk. I have a cutout with a handhold and the plane flies just fine. Build light, climbgood.Mike C. >Chuck ________________________________________________________________________________
> Holiday Toys
Original Posted By: Gordon Brimhall
> Subject: Holiday Toys>> >Gordon,Mike, I expect to get those plans any day now. Will let you> >know what I think of them. They where $18.00 plus shipping Which seems> >high until you stop to figuare out how much else everything is you drop> >in a 1/4 scale model. I have been working on a 1/4 scale cub and its> >amazing what you need just for it. But I love RC . And I see it as a way> >to fly without getting my feet off the ground. Some people like to just> >fly, others like to just build. Though I think a full size Piet will get> >this part time pilot off his feet.> >The 40 size engine is not big enough. You will probably need a 90.> >phil ( Crusader lives at the tip of California where it is only 8> >degree right now)> >--> >Check out Crusader Toys @> >http://www.thegrid.net/crusader/> >> >________________________________________________________________________________
> Subject: Holiday Toys>> >Gordon,Mike, I expect to get those plans any day now. Will let you> >know what I think of them. They where $18.00 plus shipping Which seems> >high until you stop to figuare out how much else everything is you drop> >in a 1/4 scale model. I have been working on a 1/4 scale cub and its> >amazing what you need just for it. But I love RC . And I see it as a way> >to fly without getting my feet off the ground. Some people like to just> >fly, others like to just build. Though I think a full size Piet will get> >this part time pilot off his feet.> >The 40 size engine is not big enough. You will probably need a 90.> >phil ( Crusader lives at the tip of California where it is only 8> >degree right now)> >--> >Check out Crusader Toys @> >http://www.thegrid.net/crusader/> >> >________________________________________________________________________________