Original Posted By: Dlwoolsey(at)aol.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: hello> I didn't know there was a mailing list for the Piet! Good to see! I've>been building for about 8 months. I've got the ribs, tail feathers and one>side of the fuselage built and have bought two 110 corvair engines. How>can I get previous posts on this mail list? Anyone using a ram air cooled>corvair on their Piet? Don't really like the odds on throwing a fan belt.>Wayne Sippola>Winnipeg________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: hello
Pietenpol-List: hello
Original Posted By: jmcnarry(at)techplus.com (John McNarry)
I didn't know there was a mailing list for the Piet! Good to see! I'vebeen building for about 8 months. I've got the ribs, tail feathers and oneside of the fuselage built and have bought two 110 corvair engines. Howcan I get previous posts on this mail list? Anyone using a ram air cooledcorvair on their Piet? Don't really like the odds on throwing a fan belt.Wayne SippolaWinnipeg ________________________________________________________________________________
I didn't know there was a mailing list for the Piet! Good to see! I'vebeen building for about 8 months. I've got the ribs, tail feathers and oneside of the fuselage built and have bought two 110 corvair engines. Howcan I get previous posts on this mail list? Anyone using a ram air cooledcorvair on their Piet? Don't really like the odds on throwing a fan belt.Wayne SippolaWinnipeg ________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: hello
Original Posted By: wayne <
Hello Wayne Welcome to the list. I am building in Alexander just west of Brandon andhave about the same amount done except not using a corvair. There is a Pietbuilder in the RAAC Winnipeg chapter, Dennis Scarfe,who I heard was buildinga piet. E-mail me back and we can exchange Phone numbers and have a chatabout Piets. A couple of hundred clicks isn't too far away.John McNarry-----Original Message-----
Hello Wayne Welcome to the list. I am building in Alexander just west of Brandon andhave about the same amount done except not using a corvair. There is a Pietbuilder in the RAAC Winnipeg chapter, Dennis Scarfe,who I heard was buildinga piet. E-mail me back and we can exchange Phone numbers and have a chatabout Piets. A couple of hundred clicks isn't too far away.John McNarry-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: washout and stall
Original Posted By: michael list
In response to mike bell and his question on the stall in a piet. my piet stalls very gently and can be held in a full stall with the stick back and the wings held level with just a little bit of rudder. I believe that this is called the "falling leaf maneuver". My piet also spins and recovers very nicely with opposite rudder. I have only spun the piet with the instructor on board but it spins both right and left and recovers very nicely.Duane woolsey Piet NX6398________________________________________________________________________________
In response to mike bell and his question on the stall in a piet. my piet stalls very gently and can be held in a full stall with the stick back and the wings held level with just a little bit of rudder. I believe that this is called the "falling leaf maneuver". My piet also spins and recovers very nicely with opposite rudder. I have only spun the piet with the instructor on board but it spins both right and left and recovers very nicely.Duane woolsey Piet NX6398________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: washout and stall
Original Posted By:> Dlwoolsey(at)aol.com
What is the max. up elevator deflection on your piet?? Doug
What is the max. up elevator deflection on your piet?? Doug
Pietenpol-List: Re: hello
Original Posted By:> Ian Holland
What is the distance from your firewall to the axle centerline?,and thedistance from the firewall to the gear front pivot point? Please.Have seenat least 3 different specs so far. Corvair with fan ,alt but no starter. Doug in Alberta.
What is the distance from your firewall to the axle centerline?,and thedistance from the firewall to the gear front pivot point? Please.Have seenat least 3 different specs so far. Corvair with fan ,alt but no starter. Doug in Alberta.
Pietenpol-List: Re: hello
Original Posted By: Doug
Welcome aboard! I'm in Thunder Bay, Ontario and am looking at the samething, whether to keep the Corvair with the fan, or look at using abaffle/ ram system. I have a good core and have stripped off about 50pounds of metal that won't be needed. The engine itself looks like itwould be easy to adapt. I am planning electrics, but no starter, as itlooks reasonably complicated to include one. My unit is now on the gear, the wings are built and I am getting prettyclose to a pre cover inspection. So far the logged construction time isat 850 hours. If you get to Thunder bay, let me know and we can comparenotes.________________________________________________________________________________
Welcome aboard! I'm in Thunder Bay, Ontario and am looking at the samething, whether to keep the Corvair with the fan, or look at using abaffle/ ram system. I have a good core and have stripped off about 50pounds of metal that won't be needed. The engine itself looks like itwould be easy to adapt. I am planning electrics, but no starter, as itlooks reasonably complicated to include one. My unit is now on the gear, the wings are built and I am getting prettyclose to a pre cover inspection. So far the logged construction time isat 850 hours. If you get to Thunder bay, let me know and we can comparenotes.________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: hello
Original Posted By:> Ian Holland
Thanks for the quick reply,my fuse is about 4 inches longer i think,about16 inches from firewall to the gear pivot(front),cloned my gear from GrahamHansen's CF-AUN,has the same measurements,his has a C85 sans electrics,sois probably lighter.I am concerned mine will be light in the tail,so haveinstalled the batt. tray there,my gell cell is about 12 lbs.My Piet waspainted ENERGY YELLOW in Airtech process last week,is the most intenseyellow i have ever seen!Starting final assembly now,have to build thecowling yet,not sure how i will do it yet,will have to be light,have tomuch up front already. Will let you know how it turns out. Doug
Thanks for the quick reply,my fuse is about 4 inches longer i think,about16 inches from firewall to the gear pivot(front),cloned my gear from GrahamHansen's CF-AUN,has the same measurements,his has a C85 sans electrics,sois probably lighter.I am concerned mine will be light in the tail,so haveinstalled the batt. tray there,my gell cell is about 12 lbs.My Piet waspainted ENERGY YELLOW in Airtech process last week,is the most intenseyellow i have ever seen!Starting final assembly now,have to build thecowling yet,not sure how i will do it yet,will have to be light,have tomuch up front already. Will let you know how it turns out. Doug
Pietenpol-List: Re: hello
Original Posted By: Dave and Connie
Front edge of firewall to the axle centreline is pretty close to 16inches. FE of firewall to the centre of the front attach point is 12inches. I am using tubular gear with wheels (600x 6) and brakes fromTracy O'Brien. I used the jig diagram suggested by Bill Rewey June '92in the BPA Issue 36 . It worked out pretty good, and saved a lot ofhassle.I built the extended fuselage and hope I don't end up with too muchweight on the tail. Hard to tell at the moment as the motor has not yetbeen mounted. I'm guessing at 40 pounds as she sits now.________________________________________________________________________________
Front edge of firewall to the axle centreline is pretty close to 16inches. FE of firewall to the centre of the front attach point is 12inches. I am using tubular gear with wheels (600x 6) and brakes fromTracy O'Brien. I used the jig diagram suggested by Bill Rewey June '92in the BPA Issue 36 . It worked out pretty good, and saved a lot ofhassle.I built the extended fuselage and hope I don't end up with too muchweight on the tail. Hard to tell at the moment as the motor has not yetbeen mounted. I'm guessing at 40 pounds as she sits now.________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: hello
Original Posted By:> Ian Holland
Am building a long fuselage, Jenny style gear, A-65 powered, brakelessPiet. The distance from the firewall to the axle centerline is 19".Greg Cardinal>>> Doug 05/09 6:03 PM >>> What is the distance from your firewall to the axle centerline?,and thedistance from the firewall to the gear front pivot point? Please.Haveseenat least 3 different specs so far. Corvair with fan ,alt but no starter. Doug in Alberta.
Am building a long fuselage, Jenny style gear, A-65 powered, brakelessPiet. The distance from the firewall to the axle centerline is 19".Greg Cardinal>>> Doug 05/09 6:03 PM >>> What is the distance from your firewall to the axle centerline?,and thedistance from the firewall to the gear front pivot point? Please.Haveseenat least 3 different specs so far. Corvair with fan ,alt but no starter. Doug in Alberta.
Pietenpol-List: Re: hello
Original Posted By:> Ian Holland
Tnx. My firewall to front gear pivot center is about 17 inches,and aprox 24 toaxle center. Started reinstalling the engine last night,but first wieghed the corvairon a balance beam scale.With 2 stock carbs,magnesium fan,fanshroud,belt,mech.fuel pump,dist,full oil,prop hub,support chain,throttlelinkage(between the carbs ala stock),plug wires wieghed in at 233# noexhaust installed. Doug
Tnx. My firewall to front gear pivot center is about 17 inches,and aprox 24 toaxle center. Started reinstalling the engine last night,but first wieghed the corvairon a balance beam scale.With 2 stock carbs,magnesium fan,fanshroud,belt,mech.fuel pump,dist,full oil,prop hub,support chain,throttlelinkage(between the carbs ala stock),plug wires wieghed in at 233# noexhaust installed. Doug
> Re: washout and stall
Original Posted By: Doug
> > In response to mike bell and his question on the stall in a piet. mypiet > stalls very gently and can be held in a full stall with the stick backand > the wings held level with just a little bit of rudder. I believe thatthis > is called the "falling leaf maneuver". My piet also spins and recoversvery > nicely with opposite rudder. I have only spun the piet with theinstructor > on board but it spins both right and left and recovers very nicely.> > Duane woolsey Piet NX6398________________________________________________________________________________
> > In response to mike bell and his question on the stall in a piet. mypiet > stalls very gently and can be held in a full stall with the stick backand > the wings held level with just a little bit of rudder. I believe thatthis > is called the "falling leaf maneuver". My piet also spins and recoversvery > nicely with opposite rudder. I have only spun the piet with theinstructor > on board but it spins both right and left and recovers very nicely.> > Duane woolsey Piet NX6398________________________________________________________________________________
> Re: hello
Original Posted By: wayne
> > Welcome aboard! I'm in Thunder Bay, Ontario and am looking at the same> thing, whether to keep the Corvair with the fan, or look at using a> baffle/ ram system. I have a good core and have stripped off about 50> pounds of metal that won't be needed. The engine itself looks like it> would be easy to adapt. I am planning electrics, but no starter, as it> looks reasonably complicated to include one. > > My unit is now on the gear, the wings are built and I am getting pretty> close to a pre cover inspection. So far the logged construction time is> at 850 hours. If you get to Thunder bay, let me know and we can compare> notes.> ________________________________________________________________________________
> > Welcome aboard! I'm in Thunder Bay, Ontario and am looking at the same> thing, whether to keep the Corvair with the fan, or look at using a> baffle/ ram system. I have a good core and have stripped off about 50> pounds of metal that won't be needed. The engine itself looks like it> would be easy to adapt. I am planning electrics, but no starter, as it> looks reasonably complicated to include one. > > My unit is now on the gear, the wings are built and I am getting pretty> close to a pre cover inspection. So far the logged construction time is> at 850 hours. If you get to Thunder bay, let me know and we can compare> notes.> ________________________________________________________________________________
> Re: hello
Original Posted By: jmcnarry(at)techplus.com (John McNarry)
> > Front edge of firewall to the axle centreline is pretty close to 16> inches. FE of firewall to the centre of the front attach point is 12> inches. I am using tubular gear with wheels (600x 6) and brakes from> Tracy O'Brien. I used the jig diagram suggested by Bill Rewey June '92> in the BPA Issue 36 . It worked out pretty good, and saved a lot of> hassle.> > I built the extended fuselage and hope I don't end up with too much> weight on the tail. Hard to tell at the moment as the motor has not yet> been mounted. I'm guessing at 40 pounds as she sits now.> ________________________________________________________________________________
> > Front edge of firewall to the axle centreline is pretty close to 16> inches. FE of firewall to the centre of the front attach point is 12> inches. I am using tubular gear with wheels (600x 6) and brakes from> Tracy O'Brien. I used the jig diagram suggested by Bill Rewey June '92> in the BPA Issue 36 . It worked out pretty good, and saved a lot of> hassle.> > I built the extended fuselage and hope I don't end up with too much> weight on the tail. Hard to tell at the moment as the motor has not yet> been mounted. I'm guessing at 40 pounds as she sits now.> ________________________________________________________________________________
> Re: hello
Original Posted By: mboynton(at)excite.com
>> Welcome aboard! I'm in Thunder Bay, Ontario and am looking at the same> thing, whether to keep the Corvair with the fan, or look at using a> baffle/ ram system. I have a good core and have stripped off about 50> pounds of metal that won't be needed. The engine itself looks like it> would be easy to adapt. I am planning electrics, but no starter, as it> looks reasonably complicated to include one.>> My unit is now on the gear, the wings are built and I am getting pretty> close to a pre cover inspection. So far the logged construction time is> at 850 hours. If you get to Thunder bay, let me know and we can compare> notes.>________________________________________________________________________________
>> Welcome aboard! I'm in Thunder Bay, Ontario and am looking at the same> thing, whether to keep the Corvair with the fan, or look at using a> baffle/ ram system. I have a good core and have stripped off about 50> pounds of metal that won't be needed. The engine itself looks like it> would be easy to adapt. I am planning electrics, but no starter, as it> looks reasonably complicated to include one.>> My unit is now on the gear, the wings are built and I am getting pretty> close to a pre cover inspection. So far the logged construction time is> at 850 hours. If you get to Thunder bay, let me know and we can compare> notes.>________________________________________________________________________________
> Re: hello
Original Posted By: Gary Gower
> > Front edge of firewall to the axle centreline is pretty close to 16> inches. FE of firewall to the centre of the front attach point is 12> inches. I am using tubular gear with wheels (600x 6) and brakes from> Tracy O'Brien. I used the jig diagram suggested by Bill Rewey June '92> in the BPA Issue 36 . It worked out pretty good, and saved a lot of> hassle.> > I built the extended fuselage and hope I don't end up with too much> weight on the tail. Hard to tell at the moment as the motor has not yet> been mounted. I'm guessing at 40 pounds as she sits now.> ________________________________________________________________________________
> > Front edge of firewall to the axle centreline is pretty close to 16> inches. FE of firewall to the centre of the front attach point is 12> inches. I am using tubular gear with wheels (600x 6) and brakes from> Tracy O'Brien. I used the jig diagram suggested by Bill Rewey June '92> in the BPA Issue 36 . It worked out pretty good, and saved a lot of> hassle.> > I built the extended fuselage and hope I don't end up with too much> weight on the tail. Hard to tell at the moment as the motor has not yet> been mounted. I'm guessing at 40 pounds as she sits now.> ________________________________________________________________________________