Original Posted By: Howard Wilkinson
Subject: Pietenpol-List: [Fwd: Intro from Mike Cushway]>Thanx for all the welcomes. I can already tell that this is going tobe>a very supportive group!>I am currently researching rebuilding options on the "A" engines. Ihave>(2) of them, actually>one is a "AA" out of a delivery truck. I have already contacted Ron>Kelly and rec'd a std.>price /option list. If any of you "A" powered Piet owners have>rebuilding advise I would sure>like to hear from you. Based on my previous antique tractorrestoration>experience, I feel that>a properly done babbitt job should work fine for this application.How>do you set these motors>up to handle the increased thrust load on the "rear" main? Can any of>you recommend a source>for aluminum heads? What seems to be the preferred mag. setup? I see>that MAC'S shows a>full flow oil filter conversion for the "A". Anyone have anyexperience>with that setup?>I know that a lot of these questions can be answered at Brodhead (40>miles away), but I would>like to do as much research beforehand as possible. Thanx again.>________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: RDeets(at)aol.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: [Fwd: Intro from Mike Cushway]>Thanx for all the welcomes. I can already tell that this is going to be>a very supportive group!>I am currently researching rebuilding options on the "A" engines. I have>(2) of them, actually>one is a "AA" out of a delivery truck. I have already contacted Ron>Kelly and rec'd a std.>price /option list. If any of you "A" powered Piet owners have>rebuilding advise I would sure>like to hear from you. Based on my previous antique tractor restoration>experience, I feel that>a properly done babbitt job should work fine for this application. How>do you set these motors>up to handle the increased thrust load on the "rear" main? Can any of>you recommend a source>for aluminum heads? What seems to be the preferred mag. setup? I see>that MAC'S shows a>full flow oil filter conversion for the "A". Anyone have any experience>with that setup?>I know that a lot of these questions can be answered at Brodhead (40>miles away), but I would>like to do as much research beforehand as possible. Thanx again.>________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: [Fwd: Intro from Mike Cushway]>Thanx for all the welcomes. I can already tell that this is going to be>a very supportive group!>I am currently researching rebuilding options on the "A" engines. I have>(2) of them, actually>one is a "AA" out of a delivery truck. I have already contacted Ron>Kelly and rec'd a std.>price /option list. If any of you "A" powered Piet owners have>rebuilding advise I would sure>like to hear from you. Based on my previous antique tractor restoration>experience, I feel that>a properly done babbitt job should work fine for this application. How>do you set these motors>up to handle the increased thrust load on the "rear" main? Can any of>you recommend a source>for aluminum heads? What seems to be the preferred mag. setup? I see>that MAC'S shows a>full flow oil filter conversion for the "A". Anyone have any experience>with that setup?>I know that a lot of these questions can be answered at Brodhead (40>miles away), but I would>like to do as much research beforehand as possible. Thanx again.>________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: John Duprey
Thanx for all the welcomes. I can already tell that this is going to bea very supportive group!I am currently researching rebuilding options on the "A" engines. I have(2) of them, actuallyone is a "AA" out of a delivery truck. I have already contacted RonKelly and rec'd a std.price /option list. If any of you "A" powered Piet owners haverebuilding advise I would surelike to hear from you. Based on my previous antique tractor restorationexperience, I feel thata properly done babbitt job should work fine for this application. Howdo you set these motorsup to handle the increased thrust load on the "rear" main? Can any ofyou recommend a sourcefor aluminum heads? What seems to be the preferred mag. setup? I seethat MAC'S shows afull flow oil filter conversion for the "A". Anyone have any experiencewith that setup?I know that a lot of these questions can be answered at Brodhead (40miles away), but I wouldlike to do as much research beforehand as possible. Thanx again.________________________________________________________________________________
Thanx for all the welcomes. I can already tell that this is going to bea very supportive group!I am currently researching rebuilding options on the "A" engines. I have(2) of them, actuallyone is a "AA" out of a delivery truck. I have already contacted RonKelly and rec'd a std.price /option list. If any of you "A" powered Piet owners haverebuilding advise I would surelike to hear from you. Based on my previous antique tractor restorationexperience, I feel thata properly done babbitt job should work fine for this application. Howdo you set these motorsup to handle the increased thrust load on the "rear" main? Can any ofyou recommend a sourcefor aluminum heads? What seems to be the preferred mag. setup? I seethat MAC'S shows afull flow oil filter conversion for the "A". Anyone have any experiencewith that setup?I know that a lot of these questions can be answered at Brodhead (40miles away), but I wouldlike to do as much research beforehand as possible. Thanx again.________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: [Fwd: Intro from Mike Cushway]
Original Posted By: mike cushway
Follow the conversion plans in the Piet plans as close as possible.John-----Original Message-----
Follow the conversion plans in the Piet plans as close as possible.John-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: 8N / 9N / Ford A was: Re: [Fwd: Intro from Mike Cushway]
Original Posted By: mike cushway
Mike: I've long wondered about the A engine and the Ford 8N & 9N tractorengines which appear very similar, but use inserts rather thanbabbited bearings. I don't have any specs on these engines though Ihave in the past done major overhauls on a couple of 8Ns. Rumor hasit that the 8N motor is a modernized variant of the A engine, butthere are a number of differences. The 8N has two distributerlocations, neither of which corresponds to the A which has thedistributer hole in the head. One variant uses a front mounteddistributer (older), and the other variant has a side mounteddistributer alongside the block. Both to the best of my knowledge useFord's famous paper thin sleeves known as "tin can sleeves", and bothhave modern bearings and full pressure oiling. I've been wondering about these engines as a substitute for the Aengine in a Piet a they are a superior engine in a number of ways, but-----Original Message-----
Mike: I've long wondered about the A engine and the Ford 8N & 9N tractorengines which appear very similar, but use inserts rather thanbabbited bearings. I don't have any specs on these engines though Ihave in the past done major overhauls on a couple of 8Ns. Rumor hasit that the 8N motor is a modernized variant of the A engine, butthere are a number of differences. The 8N has two distributerlocations, neither of which corresponds to the A which has thedistributer hole in the head. One variant uses a front mounteddistributer (older), and the other variant has a side mounteddistributer alongside the block. Both to the best of my knowledge useFord's famous paper thin sleeves known as "tin can sleeves", and bothhave modern bearings and full pressure oiling. I've been wondering about these engines as a substitute for the Aengine in a Piet a they are a superior engine in a number of ways, but-----Original Message-----
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Original Posted By: bholbrook
> Subject: [Fwd: Intro from Mike Cushway]>> >Thanx for all the welcomes. I can already tell that this is going to> be> >a very supportive group!> >I am currently researching rebuilding options on the "A" engines. I> have> >(2) of them, actually> >one is a "AA" out of a delivery truck. I have already contacted Ron> >Kelly and rec'd a std.> >price /option list. If any of you "A" powered Piet owners have> >rebuilding advise I would sure> >like to hear from you. Based on my previous antique tractor> restoration> >experience, I feel that> >a properly done babbitt job should work fine for this application.> How> >do you set these motors> >up to handle the increased thrust load on the "rear" main? Can any of> >you recommend a source> >for aluminum heads? What seems to be the preferred mag. setup? I see> >that MAC'S shows a> >full flow oil filter conversion for the "A". Anyone have any> experience> >with that setup?> >I know that a lot of these questions can be answered at Brodhead (40> >miles away), but I would> >like to do as much research beforehand as possible. Thanx again.> >________________________________________________________________________________
> Subject: [Fwd: Intro from Mike Cushway]>> >Thanx for all the welcomes. I can already tell that this is going to> be> >a very supportive group!> >I am currently researching rebuilding options on the "A" engines. I> have> >(2) of them, actually> >one is a "AA" out of a delivery truck. I have already contacted Ron> >Kelly and rec'd a std.> >price /option list. If any of you "A" powered Piet owners have> >rebuilding advise I would sure> >like to hear from you. Based on my previous antique tractor> restoration> >experience, I feel that> >a properly done babbitt job should work fine for this application.> How> >do you set these motors> >up to handle the increased thrust load on the "rear" main? Can any of> >you recommend a source> >for aluminum heads? What seems to be the preferred mag. setup? I see> >that MAC'S shows a> >full flow oil filter conversion for the "A". Anyone have any> experience> >with that setup?> >I know that a lot of these questions can be answered at Brodhead (40> >miles away), but I would> >like to do as much research beforehand as possible. Thanx again.> >________________________________________________________________________________