Original Posted By: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Keeping Piet outside.I am interested in how many of you keep your Piets/GN-1s outside and whatdid you do to preserve your planes. I remember someone said they hadthere Piet tied down outside for a year or so.SteveSteve W GN-1 builderIHA #6________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Keeping Piet outside.
Re: Pietenpol-List: Keeping Piet outside.
Original Posted By: Chris Cheney
>>I am interested in how many of you keep your Piets/GN-1s outside and what>did you do to preserve your planes. I remember someone said they had>there Piet tied down outside for a year or so.>>Steve>>Steve W GN-1 builder>IHA #6>Keeping a wood & fabric airplane outside aint good.Mike B Piet N687MB ( Mr Sam )________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 11:50:53 -0800 (PST)
>>I am interested in how many of you keep your Piets/GN-1s outside and what>did you do to preserve your planes. I remember someone said they had>there Piet tied down outside for a year or so.>>Steve>>Steve W GN-1 builder>IHA #6>Keeping a wood & fabric airplane outside aint good.Mike B Piet N687MB ( Mr Sam )________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 11:50:53 -0800 (PST)
RE: Pietenpol-List: Keeping Piet outside.
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
I kept mine outside for a year before I could find a hanger for it. Ifabricated cockpit covers that fit tight. I also covered the engine and propthe best I could with a tarp bungeed down. Also a good idea to lock thecontrols with the seat belt and gust lock the rudder. I made sure that Iwent out during heavy snows and swept the wing clean. Glad those days areover and I now have my own roof to keep most of the weather out. Sometimeyou do what you have to do, but if you have the choice keep it under cover.Steve E.NX7229R-----Original Message-----
I kept mine outside for a year before I could find a hanger for it. Ifabricated cockpit covers that fit tight. I also covered the engine and propthe best I could with a tarp bungeed down. Also a good idea to lock thecontrols with the seat belt and gust lock the rudder. I made sure that Iwent out during heavy snows and swept the wing clean. Glad those days areover and I now have my own roof to keep most of the weather out. Sometimeyou do what you have to do, but if you have the choice keep it under cover.Steve E.NX7229R-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Keeping Piet outside.
Original Posted By: jmcnarry(at)techplus.com (John McNarry)
>>I kept mine outside for a year before I could find a hanger for it. I>fabricated cockpit covers that fit tight..............Cockpit covers, a great idea. The front cover sure keeps the wind fromclimbing up your pant leg.Here's how I did mine. I made heavy paper patterns of both cockpits. Justtraced around the cockpits & cut on the lines. I took them to a boat canvasshop & in no time at all I had two tight fitting covers. They supplied allthe snaps.Mike B Piet N687MB ( Mr sam )________________________________________________________________________________
>>I kept mine outside for a year before I could find a hanger for it. I>fabricated cockpit covers that fit tight..............Cockpit covers, a great idea. The front cover sure keeps the wind fromclimbing up your pant leg.Here's how I did mine. I made heavy paper patterns of both cockpits. Justtraced around the cockpits & cut on the lines. I took them to a boat canvasshop & in no time at all I had two tight fitting covers. They supplied allthe snaps.Mike B Piet N687MB ( Mr sam )________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Keeping Piet outside.
Original Posted By: nle97(at)juno.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Keeping Piet outside.Steve, It's not good to keep a Piet or any airplane outside for long periods oftime. The UV rays from the sun does nasty things to fabric and wood,even these supossedly long life dacrons. If you need to keep the planeoutside, fly it often; at least once a week. this will help dry outmoisture that has accumulated from rain, dew, snow, or whatever. I'veannualed as many as seventy airplanes a year for the past 28 years andthe ones that always are the biggest bags of worms are the ones thataren't flown much. This includes the ones stored in hangars on dirtfloors. Planes need to be flown and dried out often. Many years ago when I lived in Iowa I would annual a PA-18A that theowner would fly at least fifteen minutes a year whether it needed it ornot. The last couple of annuals I did I just went out and signed the logbooks as nothing would ever wear out, just corrode or rot. The ownerwould always call me two or three days ahead of time to tell me he wantedto fly and to get his airplane ready. That was the real annual. I wouldget the airplane out, chage the battery, clean out the rats nests, andlook things over for serious corrosion and rotted fabric. It wouldusually take me a couple of days to get this thing ready for flight and Iwould nearly cry as I watched him fly it around the patch a couple oftimes and put in the hangar for another year. Keeping a plane hangared is always the best deal if you can afford it.But it still needs to be flown.John LangstonPipe Creek, TXnle97(at)juno.comYOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET!Juno now offers FREE Internet Access!http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj._______ ... __________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Keeping Piet outside.Steve, It's not good to keep a Piet or any airplane outside for long periods oftime. The UV rays from the sun does nasty things to fabric and wood,even these supossedly long life dacrons. If you need to keep the planeoutside, fly it often; at least once a week. this will help dry outmoisture that has accumulated from rain, dew, snow, or whatever. I'veannualed as many as seventy airplanes a year for the past 28 years andthe ones that always are the biggest bags of worms are the ones thataren't flown much. This includes the ones stored in hangars on dirtfloors. Planes need to be flown and dried out often. Many years ago when I lived in Iowa I would annual a PA-18A that theowner would fly at least fifteen minutes a year whether it needed it ornot. The last couple of annuals I did I just went out and signed the logbooks as nothing would ever wear out, just corrode or rot. The ownerwould always call me two or three days ahead of time to tell me he wantedto fly and to get his airplane ready. That was the real annual. I wouldget the airplane out, chage the battery, clean out the rats nests, andlook things over for serious corrosion and rotted fabric. It wouldusually take me a couple of days to get this thing ready for flight and Iwould nearly cry as I watched him fly it around the patch a couple oftimes and put in the hangar for another year. Keeping a plane hangared is always the best deal if you can afford it.But it still needs to be flown.John LangstonPipe Creek, TXnle97(at)juno.comYOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET!Juno now offers FREE Internet Access!http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj._______ ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: fuselage bottom ply
Original Posted By: "wayne"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: fuselage bottom plyDel,I think I would just glue another piece of 1/8" plywood under theexisting piece. Just be sure it's completely glued all over beforetacking down. Use some weights to help distribute glueing pressur evenlythroughout.John LangstonPipe Creek, TXnle97(at)juno.com writes:>>>well boys,>made my first mistake. after I had cut out the fuse>floor and glued and nailed it on. I discovered I used>my 1/8 inch material instead of 1/4. I hav'nt put any>cross pieces in the bottom yet.>here are the options I can think of. cut it lengthwise>just inside the longerons, and belt sand the remaining>material off. -or- leave it on and laminate another>1/8 piece on the inside on all of it, or just the>critical places where you might put your weight on it>when you get in and out.>I assume 1/4 inch is used on the bottom because you>step on it getting in and out, and not for structural>strength.>all comments welcome.>thanks much >del>>Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.>http://messenger.yahoo.com>>YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET!Juno now offers FREE Internet Access!http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj._______ ... __________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: fuselage bottom plyDel,I think I would just glue another piece of 1/8" plywood under theexisting piece. Just be sure it's completely glued all over beforetacking down. Use some weights to help distribute glueing pressur evenlythroughout.John LangstonPipe Creek, TXnle97(at)juno.com writes:>>>well boys,>made my first mistake. after I had cut out the fuse>floor and glued and nailed it on. I discovered I used>my 1/8 inch material instead of 1/4. I hav'nt put any>cross pieces in the bottom yet.>here are the options I can think of. cut it lengthwise>just inside the longerons, and belt sand the remaining>material off. -or- leave it on and laminate another>1/8 piece on the inside on all of it, or just the>critical places where you might put your weight on it>when you get in and out.>I assume 1/4 inch is used on the bottom because you>step on it getting in and out, and not for structural>strength.>all comments welcome.>thanks much >del>>Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.>http://messenger.yahoo.com>>YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET!Juno now offers FREE Internet Access!http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj._______ ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: fuselage bottom ply
Original Posted By:> del magsam
I used two ply's of 1/8 for my fuselage bottom. I would suggest youlaminate the 2'nd piece directly over the first piece so it's on the bottom(outside). Much easier that way. If you used nails, I think I'd just setthem in below the surface and glue the second piece right over.Wayne Sippola, Winnipeg----------
I used two ply's of 1/8 for my fuselage bottom. I would suggest youlaminate the 2'nd piece directly over the first piece so it's on the bottom(outside). Much easier that way. If you used nails, I think I'd just setthem in below the surface and glue the second piece right over.Wayne Sippola, Winnipeg----------
RE: Pietenpol-List: Keeping Piet outside.
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Agreed. Fortunatly, I have put nearly 170 hours on my Piet in the last two years. Concrete and a door are this spring's projects.Now if you will excuse me I've got to go flyin.... :)Severe clear and warm!Steve E.-----Original Message-----
Agreed. Fortunatly, I have put nearly 170 hours on my Piet in the last two years. Concrete and a door are this spring's projects.Now if you will excuse me I've got to go flyin.... :)Severe clear and warm!Steve E.-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: fuselage bottom ply
Original Posted By: "Chanter, Mike (M.F.)"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: fuselage bottom ply>>well boys,>made my first mistake. after I had cut out the fuse>floor and glued and nailed it on. I discovered I used>my 1/8 inch material instead of 1/4. >I assume 1/4 inch is used on thebottom because you>step on it getting in and out, and not for structural>strength.>all comments welcome.>thanks much>del>I would glue an 1/8 ply on the outside, cross grain if possible. Strong assingle 1/4 in or maybe stronger.Mike B Piet N687MB ( Mr sam )________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: fuselage bottom ply>>well boys,>made my first mistake. after I had cut out the fuse>floor and glued and nailed it on. I discovered I used>my 1/8 inch material instead of 1/4. >I assume 1/4 inch is used on thebottom because you>step on it getting in and out, and not for structural>strength.>all comments welcome.>thanks much>del>I would glue an 1/8 ply on the outside, cross grain if possible. Strong assingle 1/4 in or maybe stronger.Mike B Piet N687MB ( Mr sam )________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Keeping Piet outside.
Original Posted By: Steve Dortch
Re: Pietenpol-List: Keeping Piet outside.
Original Posted By: "Domenico Bellissimo"
Tom Bowdler may have one for sale in the Spring as soon as he gets his otherone flying.Regards,Domenic________________________________________________________________________________
Tom Bowdler may have one for sale in the Spring as soon as he gets his otherone flying.Regards,Domenic________________________________________________________________________________
> Re: Pietenpol-List: Keeping Piet outside.
Original Posted By: Gary Gower
> Pietenpol-List: fuselage bottom ply
Original Posted By: Steve Eldredge
> > > well boys,> made my first mistake. after I had cut out the fuse> floor and glued and nailed it on. I discovered I used> my 1/8 inch material instead of 1/4. I hav'nt put any________________________________________________________________________________
> > > well boys,> made my first mistake. after I had cut out the fuse> floor and glued and nailed it on. I discovered I used> my 1/8 inch material instead of 1/4. I hav'nt put any________________________________________________________________________________